Round 1 - Florida

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Losses bring out the best in us...overanalyzing grainy practice footage, psychoanalyzing the motivation of a locker room we've never entered, making medical diagnoses from the comfort of our own homes, questioning the decision makers on a team that won 82% of their games. Never change.

Maybe we just made some uncharacteristic mistakes against a team that's actually pretty talented. Bruins weren't going 16-0...time to look at some film, make some adjustments, hopefully get everyone a bit healthier and be ready for Friday. I'm not that worried yet, this team has earned the faith this season.
 

jezza1918

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Losses bring out the best in us...overanalyzing grainy practice footage, psychoanalyzing the motivation of a locker room we've never entered, making medical diagnoses from the comfort of our own homes, questioning the decision makers on a team that won 82% of their games. Never change.

Maybe we just made some uncharacteristic mistakes against a team that's actually pretty talented. Bruins weren't going 16-0...time to look at some film, make some adjustments, hopefully get everyone a bit healthier and be ready for Friday. I'm not that worried yet, this team has earned the faith this season.
+1. Actually + like 1,000.
 

Mystic Merlin

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Do you really think with the core of this team being who they are, in a potentially record setting season, against the one playoff team that handled the bruins well in the regular season...that they decided not to take them seriously and assume they were going to coast? Cmon.
Making inferences about the individual and collective psychologies of athletes based on the process and outcome of athletic events is a treasured past time of sports fans. It has the benefits of being extremely difficult to decisively rebut (relatedly, it cleverly shifts the burden to others to disprove the theory), and of removing basic variability in performance/chance, opponent quality/performance, or personnel or tactical mistakes as factors in the outcome.

If you want to establish that this Bruins team didn’t take Florida seriously, then you have a high burden of proof to meet.
 

joe dokes

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Losses bring out the best in us...overanalyzing grainy practice footage, psychoanalyzing the motivation of a locker room we've never entered, making medical diagnoses from the comfort of our own homes, questioning the decision makers on a team that won 82% of their games. Never change.

Maybe we just made some uncharacteristic mistakes against a team that's actually pretty talented. Bruins weren't going 16-0...time to look at some film, make some adjustments, hopefully get everyone a bit healthier and be ready for Friday. I'm not that worried yet, this team has earned the faith this season.
No more calls. We have a winner.
 

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Is that specifically a hockey thing? I'm genuinely asking.

Because Kevin Garnett said hooooooooorrible shit not all that long ago.
Kevin Garnett - god love him as a Celtic, was kind of a piece of shit, and there’s a reason his shittalking is sort of well known.

Especially in a league where a lot of these guys played with each other growing up, and making their way through the ranks, this kind of chirping is uncommon and is against “the code.”
 

durandal1707

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The problem is 5v5/even-strength play. 38.5% xGF in game 1 and 34.7% xGF last night. They squeaked by on Monday due to PDO and special teams play. Game 2 shows how that's an unreliable way to win playoff games.

Getting Bergeron back is crucial, but more important to my eyes is the defense. And while playing Forbort over Grz when you need possession is a head-scratcher, the bigger issue has been the top 4. Lindholm had an awful game last night, maybe his worst this year—looking sluggish overall, constantly mishandling the puck, and making poor decisions like trying to force pucks through several Panthers. McAvoy had an uncharacteristically bad turnover that led to a goal.

I hope it's largely attributable to the GI bug, and that it's run its course. They certainly looked drained physically and mentally last night.
 

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Kevin Garnett - god love him as a Celtic, was kind of a piece of shit, and there’s a reason his shittalking is sort of well known.

Especially in a league where a lot of these guys played with each other growing up, and making their way through the ranks, this kind of chirping is uncommon and is against “the code.”
Good to know. I know you know way more about the sport than I do.
 

tims4wins

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I don’t think the Bruins by any means entered the series thinking they’d coast. But I do think it is at least possible that because they won game 1 despite playing a C- game, without Bergeron to boot, maybe they just weren’t quite as sharp as they needed to be last night.
 

Ed Hillel

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I'm guessing he needs to talk with the trainers after Bergy skated this morning and hasn't done so yet (but obviously will before they leave).
Yeah, that just seems strange. I know NHL coaches are busy, but you figure he’d ask about his captain within 5 hours of his skate. Maybe they need time for him to rest and reevaluate.
 

Ed Hillel

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I'd settle for a photo of him holding today's Globe.

This is worrying.
Well, there’s video of him skating the past couple days, so we know he’s alive. Whether those videos comfort people or not, it would seem not, but there’s not much context given to them. How long had Bergeron been skating before he started laboring, for example?
 

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Maybe it's good for them to go on the road too. There's something about going into an opponent's building that gets an extra chip on player's shoulder. Us against the world type of mentality.

@IdiotKicker said it best. There were some terrible turnovers that led to some goals for Florida, but if the Bruins buried Florida's mistakes behind Lyon it may have been a much different game because the Bruins could have been up like 3-0.

Adversity usually brings out the best in great teams. Let's see what tomorrow night brings.
 

Bozo Texino

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Well, there’s video of him skating the past couple days, so we know he’s alive. Whether those videos comfort people or not, it would seem not, but there’s not much context given to them. How long had Bergeron been skating before he started laboring, for example?
Sorry - I thought it was clear that I was making a joke with my Globe comment. I know he's alive, and I know he's been skating.

Unfortunately, that's all I - or anyone outside of B's staff - know at the moment. Trying not to get my undies in a twist about the whole thing, but I'm concerned.
 

joe dokes

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Is he bent over because he's weak and still feeling effects, or BECAUSE HE'S THE GREATEST EFFORT GUY OF ALL TIME AND HE'S ONLY ABLE TO GO 246245345%??
I was thinking more like, "That's pretty good for a guy whose ribs are all broken and organs all displaced."
 

Myt1

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The concerning thing to me is that they have been outplayed for the better part of 2 games and would probably be 0-2 but for Ullmark in game 1.

They clearly didn’t take this opponent seriously. Hopefully this will be a wake up call.
Dude, they’re professional athletes in the NHL playoffs. What is this?
 

Eddie Jurak

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Dude, they’re professional athletes in the NHL playoffs. What is this?
They are a one seed, and by all appearances a strong one seed, that just got outplayed for most of 2 games by an 8 seed. They can’t play like they have in these first two games AND expect to win this series. They can do one or the other.
 

joe dokes

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They are a one seed, and by all appearances a strong one seed, that just got outplayed for most of 2 games by an 8 seed. They can’t play like they have in these first two games AND expect to win this series. They can do one or the other.
This is undoubtedly correct. But it is also unrelated to not taking the opponent seriously. (Other than as blind speculation that gives no credit to the other team or the myriad other ways teams lose that don't involve not taking the other team seriously).
 

jezza1918

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They are a one seed, and by all appearances a strong one seed, that just got outplayed for most of 2 games by an 8 seed. They can’t play like they have in these first two games AND expect to win this series. They can do one or the other.
What about this statement has anything to do with your claim that they aren't taking the Panthers seriously?
I'll add, they took every f*cking opponent seriously this year. Hence the record setting season they had. But somehow because they haven't played up to expectation in two games you are chalking that up to not taking them seriously? in the stanley cup playoffs?
 

BaseballJones

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I think it’s more likely that the team is largely under the weather, they’re missing Bergeron badly, and they’re playing tight.
 

Myt1

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They are a one seed, and by all appearances a strong one seed, that just got outplayed for most of 2 games by an 8 seed. They can’t play like they have in these first two games AND expect to win this series. They can do one or the other.
They’re missing their captain and best defensive forward, have a fair amount of illness, and are working in four players with a lot of injury rust, only one of whom played at all the last week to two weeks of the regular season. I don’t know why their coach has chosen to work two of those players in, but I find that transition a much more plausible explanation for their lack of cohesion than the morality play of whether professional athletes in the playoffs of the most random of the US Big 4 sports are taking their opponents—with whom they split the season series—seriously.
 

jezza1918

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They’re missing their captain and best defensive forward, have a fair amount of illness, and are working in four players with a lot of injury rust, only one of whom played at all the last week to two weeks of the regular season. I don’t know why their coach has chosen to work two of those players in, but I find that transition a much more plausible explanation for their lack of cohesion than the morality play of whether professional athletes in the playoffs of the most random of the US Big 4 sports are taking their opponents—with whom they split the season series—seriously.
I think I'll pipe down now...you're much better at this than I am!
 

MiracleOfO2704

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Do we know if Bergy is travelling with the team yet? When is the plane down taking off?
Bruins Twitter showed four stills of people getting on the plane, none of them Bergeron. Perhaps more depressing is the fact that not one of the Bruins’ beat writers has said if he did or not.
 

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Seems like we aren’t getting Bergeron back anytime soon :( Otherwise why the Steen move?
Everyone is going to need to step up big time. Starting with guys like McAvoy, Lindholm, Pastrnak, Zacha, Ullmark. The new leadership core. Time to see what they got.
 

Ed Hillel

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Anyone who blames the team, I'm sorry. Bergeron has given everything to this franchise, that request needed to be honored.
 

j44thor

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I wonder if we will see a change in defensive pairings tonight. Was surprised to read that McAvoy and Orlov together only had a 8GF to 7 GA advantage during the regular season and clearly didn't do well in game 2. Perhaps it is time to give Gryz a shot to help with the transition game.
 

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Yep. That's man code #1. No wives or kids. Mom's on the other hand...
My Honey Nut Cheerios are tasting a little bit different this morning after reading this.

edit: google Kevin Garnett/honey nut cheerios for reference.
 
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