Who the hell gave Shank the early heads-up? He's not a beat reporter and he never, ever breaks news.
Someone is feeding him info to use on Price.
Someone is feeding him info to use on Price.
Shank aka CHB calls out David Price calling out Eck
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Normally I would agree. But the unique elbow thing always seemed like a ticking time bomb.
Yeah, this isn't something they're making up. Of course they'd rather he be healthy and start tonight, no matter the nonsense surrounding YUCK.
It's not a good sign at all that his elbow is acting up again. If we're all lucky, it will be Lackey redux if he has the TJ and then comes back and wins big playoff games afterwards.
Seems like one of the following scenarios has to be in play:
- Price is legitimately hurt
- Price is saying FU, I am going to go sit on the DL for awhile and collect my check rather than subject myself to an expected harsh greeting by Sox fans
- Sox are disciplining Price
- Price's name has surfaced in ongoing trade discussions
Buster OlneyVerified account @Buster_ESPN 57s57 seconds ago
David Price had an MRI on his pitching elbow Thursday.
David Price had an MRI on his pitching elbow Thursday.
We're a half game up in the division. We can't afford to discipline and severely hurt our chances.
No one will trade for Price now especially with a high TJ probability
If he's FUing he's actually a super asshole, way more than I thought.
He's hurt.
I share the sentiment, but I wouldn't define "professional and respectful" by reference to the way players treat people whose job is to create stories to entertain sports fans who harbor jealous, resentful, and often racist attitudes toward professional athletes.* Eckersley was perhaps an undeserving target of Price's wrath, but I think we'd agree that Price has gotten a lot of bad press since arriving in Boston, much of it unfair. Not having the self-control of Jackie Robinson doesn't make Price a bad man, or even an unprofessional one. And I say this as someone who never cared for Price and wanted to see DD strung up for handing him that ridiculous contract even before the ink was dry on it.
If Price or Pedroia beat his wife, or blew off kids with cancer, then that would affect my enjoyment of the team. A standoff-ish attitude towards the media does not.
*- Why people who feel that way choose to follow professional sports is beyond me. But not only do they follow sports, they consume a disproportionate amount of sports media -- if they didn't, we'd see very different coverage.
This is why I originally posted that I would not be surprised if Price acted like a cretin, but that I was not going to accept CHB as the definitive source for information.
Shank is always playing an angle.
Shank was widely seen as a mouthpiece for LL. I imagine his editors insisted on a second source for at least some stories, so he must have other FO sources as well. Not surprising that he'd be the vessel through which management would defend one of their most popular on-air personalities.
Shaughnessy has been around Fenway for nearly 40 years and knows everyone. Say what you want about his agenda and motivation but good reporting usually comes down to who you know.
I don't even hate Price. I actually had zero problem with him telling the media to screw. Borges article today on him actually makes me like Price even more. Since Borges is probably the biggest jackass hack in the history of Boston Media. But the Eck stuff? If it made the team perform better and come together that would be one thing. But they've been in the toilet for a few weeks now.
I'm more concerned on which prospect Dave gives up for pitching help.
I'm more concerned on which prospect Dave gives up for pitching help.
Yeah but Shank has been real bitter since the "curse" was broken. He lost quite a bit of money with future books regurgitating the SOS.
I think the ulterior motive is to get Price to opt out. They realize he is no longer a 30M/yr pitcher and that contract will be an albatross in the next year or two. Price is unlikely to pitch well enough to become a 30M/yr pitcher again so he will almost certainly have to take a loss on his next contract when he opts out. About the only reason to do that is to avoid a toxic situation.
Enter CHB doing the FO's dirty work for them. A role he relishes.
I'm the total opposite, Tyrone. I hate Price something fierce and I can't even think of who is in second place among Boston athletes on the Dickhead List. Grady Little is always there but he is not a player.
I know this is terrible news between the lines. And I of course would not wish for Price to be injured, whether this is Hellenic Flu or legit. But I will not miss his face. Not one bit.
I know this is terrible news between the lines. And I of course would not wish for Price to be injured, whether this is Hellenic Flu or legit. But I will not miss his face. Not one bit.
If he is heading for TJ surgery the chances of him opting out would be greatly reduced. Assuming a 12-15 month recovery he wouldn't have much opportunity to demonstrate that he has returned to the level that would warrant a contract in excess of what he would have by "opting in"
Whose to say that a siege mentality in the clubhouse isn't what's best for the team's on-field performance? Most managers would likely prefer that their players never speak to the media, but ownership won't abide that anymore. If you have to deal with the media, it's hardly clear that bending over backwards to please them is less distracting than being indifferent, or even hostile.
The comments here about how we don't really know these guys are spot-on, but if there's one thing we know about Pedroia, it's that he has a single-minded focus on the game. At a minimum, I'm confident he thinks he's doing what's best for the team. I'm certainly in no position to second-guess his judgment.
Keep dreaming. He's not opting out.
And if the chances of him opting out weren't already 0.0%, casting him publicly as a problem child is hardly the best way to build up his market.
David Price is not leaving $120 million+ on the table because he "doesn't like the toxic environment."
The only way he opts out is if he's pitching well. And if he's seriously injured, the chances of him opting out are essentially zero.
The truth about David Price: Never believe what teams say publicly. A recurrence of his elbow issue, source says, "was a long time coming."
Like you said, we don't even know if that comment was true in the first place. Pedey may well have had literally nothing to do with it. But, if that quote was accurate, that should be enough to question what we think we know about the dude.
Uniting against the media for camaraderie purposes is one thing. Cheering on a guy being an asshole to someone is something else. *IF* that quote is true, it would diminish my opinion on Pedey a little bit.
But, I wrote what you quoted before the report that contradicted it, so the more important part is that we literally have no idea what happened there, so it's not fair to judge anyone just yet.
Have never read anything about a "Lackey type clause" that gives the Sox some protection in the event of an arm injury that results in significant loss of playing time. Hopefully they get an option of their own to void a year but seem like we would know about that type of protection.
Maybe he's a trailblazer in having a mid three ERA and signing one of the biggest contracts in history?
Is he implying that it was a medical ticking bomb? I'm not sure how to read this comment with all the other shit going on.
This guy has an arm injury? My ass, his ten day DL coincides with the Red Sox going on a road trip. This is the Sox hiding their little malcontent until hopefully this all blows over.
Nothing says keeping a players value high like an reoccurring elbow injury. If the plan is to try and get something in the offseason you say he's on the DL with an ear infection or something. To send the guy for an MRI and tank his value or whatever value he has left is dumb. I would hope a veteran GM like DD wouldn't be that stupid.
Good thing. If it was an 11 or 12 day home stand they would be screwed. This is ridiculous.
and really hurt their chances at two games against the two currently hottest AL teams, in a critical homestand?
Maybe. Mauf is simply saying they are very different (Jackie turned the other cheek for at least a couple of years, on strict orders from Branch Rickey). Price OTOH, never met a confrontation he didn't respond to.
If we're lucky.
Running a sneaky internal campaign to run a star pitcher out of town — especially for bullshit, non-performance-related issues — would have serious repercussions for future free agents we want to sign.
This is Scaramucci-grade paranoia.
Because DD and JF would rather throw AAA arms against the two hottest teams in the AL while in a dogfight for the East than subject David Price to some booing...I don't buy that angle at all.
Apologies if this has been covered before, but how the hell did that contract ever happen? I feel like Lackey's contract with the league minimum option for a missed year was the only contract I've ever seen like that. You'd think teams would be lining up to add that into the contract
Lackey got that clause in his contract because a) he had had previous issues with his elbow in Anahiem and b) the exams by the Red Sox medical personnel probably turned up something worrisome. In other words, the clause was protection against a pre-existing condition.
With Price, there was no reason to think his elbow as a ticking time bomb (other than the standard concern that all pitchers' elbows are ticking time bombs). So there is no protection clause in his contract. The Red Sox don't get to void a year or get an extra year at league minimum.
The Yankees game, big stage Sunday night, history of sucking against they Yankees, then he comes out throwing outstanding ball. I wonder if he overdid it in that start and it immediately showed in the Angels game.
If this is a serious issue, just get the TJS and get this over with. Maybe with some miracle he is a solid contributor toward the end of 2018.
If this is a serious issue, just get the TJS and get this over with. Maybe with some miracle he is a solid contributor toward the end of 2018.
This is the dumbest post I have ever read in my nine plus years on SOSH and that is saying something..
i know that i am not a quality poster, that I should probably just stick to lurking, but i am surprised this thread has such legs! as someone who was raised a sox fan by my dad(raised in Dedham) and who has never resided in Boston, does this kind of stuff just dominate local talk on the red sox? I have only really discussed or read about sox news on this site.
Michael SilvermanVerified account @MikeSilvermanBB 2m2 minutes ago
Red Sox: Robby Scott takes Price's spot on 25-man roster. Price on DL w "left elbow inflammation."
Red Sox: Robby Scott takes Price's spot on 25-man roster. Price on DL w "left elbow inflammation."
Next week correct.
They are bumping up everyone a day in the meantime. Porcello goes tonight.
Are you SERIOUSLY making this out to be a race issue? Jesus you are ridiculous. UNFAIR? His bad press is UNFAIR? He has shown himself to be a world class a$$....its not unfair & has nothing to do with his race, his religion, his sexual preference, or what gender he identifies as. It is because he is an A$$.
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