mascho said:Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame
He immediately makes Flacco a better QB as well.
This made me chuckle.
mascho said:Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame
He immediately makes Flacco a better QB as well.
Granted, Ebron's numbers as a junior in Chapel Hill weren't exactly eye-popping. However, Ebron is far from the first collegiate pass-catcher whose production was hampered by his quarterback.
Chicago Bears wideout Alshon Jeffery just nodded so hard his head popped off and rolled across the floor. In 2010, Jeffery had over 1,500 receiving yards at South Carolina. The next year he had just over half that, falling to the second round of the 2012 NFL draft.
What play is he talkin' about? This play, that's wut:Ebron lacks strength, doesn’t understand how to bend corners, or keep his body in control as an edge rusher. However, he does have promise using his hands, his speed and quickness translate, and what’s most impressive is that he has a heck of a motor.
Ebron’s hands and body control are far more refined as an offensive player.
But it pales in comparison to this play against Virginia Tech. It’s a Calvin Johnson-like play in the sense that Ebron has to highpoint the ball in traffic, turn his body away from the defender while securing the ball, and still maintain possession while hitting the ground hard.
Ask the teams that have benefitted from Brandon Marshall and Terrell Owens. Based on the athleticism, effort, versatility, and ability to thrive against physical play, I know that saying I’d "live with" the talents of Ebron would be a disservice to his current skill -– warts and all.
If I was a GM in the top 5, Clowney would scare the hell out of me. You'd have to have huge balls and total ownership support to pass on him...but Clowney seems much more likely to give you 3rd/4th round production than top 5 production. In other words, 5 years from now I can imagine Anthony Barr getting his first All Pro nod while Clowney is seeking a "fresh start" with Donald Trump's Buffalo (soon to be LA) Bills.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:I picked Clowney for both. Questionable motor and all the kid is a physical freak. I've seen plenty of mocks that have him dropping to ATL at #6 but I think even that's crazy.
67YAZ said:If I was a GM in the top 5, Clowney would scare the hell out of me. You'd have to have huge balls and total ownership support to pass on him...but Clowney seems much more likely to give you 3rd/4th round production than top 5 production. In other words, 5 years from now I can imagine Anthony Barr getting his first All Pro nod while Clowney is seeking a "fresh start" with Donald Trump's Buffalo (soon to be LA) Bills.
good call ssf u was not going to get him at 31SeoulSoxFan said:With the 18th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New York Football Jets select:
TE, Eric Ebron
Bosox4416 said:Why?
SeoulSoxFan said:
...just kidding. Jets will grab him in the 3rd round before the Pats pick to piss off some dumb mod on this forum. The Jets actually select:
TE, Eric Ebron
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select,
Brandin Cooks, WR Oregon State
This draft has a ton of talent at WR and I might have been able to get another pass catcher later, but this guy is too good to pass up.
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Ok the Niners will take Bradley Roby. We need secondary help and while Roby had a down year he oozes talent and is good value here.
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Wow, amazing article. Great pick, too.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:So many different directions to go here. D line, TE, Secondary... With all the names on the board I can see the Pats trading back here. Since that's not an option I have a tough decision to make. The top three DT's on the board right now are all very good but not without their flaws. There are some secondary pieces that are talented but i'm not sure they're worth the pick here. Then there are the two TE's who would be big weapons in the Pats offense.
Ultimately this kids physical skills are too impressive to pass on, and I knew for certain after reading this Ra'Shede's Road: The improbable path tha [/size]
With the 29th pick The New England Patriots select
Ra'shede Hageman, DL Minnesota
The 6'6" 320 lb monster is one of the most physically imposing players to come out of college football this year. He has freakish athletic ability for his size and uses that to collapse the pocket and overwhelm opposing linemen. He's strong, explosive and is very rarely contained. The only red flag with this kid is that he's raw and can get sidetracked. I think New England is a perfect situation for him. BB and crew can help him focus his abilities on the field and advise him off the field. A front four of Jones, Kelly, Wilfork and Hageman would be a nightmare for opposing offenses.
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Bosox4416 said:Wow, amazing article. Great pick, too.
Amaro is a talent, but how much of it was a product of the offense? He's not a great blocker at all, so he better be a damn good receiver. After studying him, I think he's closer to Gavin Escobar than he is to an Aaron Hernandez-type.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:Niklas over Amaro? Ballsy pick.
RedOctober3829 said:Amaro is a talent, but how much of it was a product of the offense? He's not a great blocker at all, so he better be a damn good receiver. After studying him, I think he's closer to Gavin Escobar than he is to an Aaron Hernandez-type.
The other concern with Amaro's blocking is just how little he was used as a classic in-line TE - just 12% of the time per this link. His blocking abilities in a conventional TE role are definitely a question mark, and if a team plans to use its TE in-line most of the team, preferring Niklas makes sense.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Everything I've read has him as an adequate blocker. The only knock was an inconsistent motor in doing so. It's not like that's something he can't be taught to do better either. He put up 28 reps so strength isn't an issue. I think it's a bad idea to overlook him, but YMMV. I think Niklas is solid. I think Amaro is a possible star.
Super Nomario said:The other concern with Amaro's blocking is just how little he was used as a classic in-line TE - just 12% of the time per this link. His blocking abilities in a conventional TE role are definitely a question mark, and if a team plans to use its TE in-line most of the team, preferring Niklas makes sense.
Maybe, but you can't give him credit for blocking he hasn't done, either. You can also flip it around and ask what kind of production Niklas would have had if he'd played in an offense that passed as much as Texas Tech (55 pass attempts per game versus 33 for Notre Dame) and got to play in the slot as much as Amaro (just 12% in-line as previously noted, while Niklas was in-line 71% of the time).Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Great link SN. I can see the motivation behind making the pick. In real life I'm hoping Niklas falls to the Pats so it's not like I don't see the talent there. I just have a hard time saying someone can't do something if he wasn't put in the position due to the scheme he was in. Amaro could prove to be an excellent blocker if given the chance.
Super Nomario said:Maybe, but you can't give him credit for blocking he hasn't done, either. You can also flip it around and ask what kind of production Niklas would have had if he'd played in an offense that passed as much as Texas Tech (55 pass attempts per game versus 33 for Notre Dame) and got to play in the slot as much as Amaro (just 12% in-line as previously noted, while Niklas was in-line 71% of the time).
67YAZ said:As the SoSH-Giants GM, I had Niklas pegged at 43. He's a great combo of in-line blocking and receiving with room to grow physically and skills-wise. Not a sexy pick, but an excellent football pick.
This draft is going to be something else. Our top-18 picks here are almost exactly the top-18 I've seen in every mock and big board. But that next tier of players seem to be going anywhere from 20-55. Lining up your guy in the late-1st/2nd round is going to be nearly impossible.
Definitely dealing with Andy Reid for a 3rd and next year's 1st.SeoulSoxFan said:
You know what that means....
...BB trades with Eagles/49ers/Whomever to get out of 1st and pick up #2, #5, and a #6.
I think it's more likely they take someone at 29 that most of the prognosticati have as the #50 prospect, since they won't be able to guess where those players might go behind them.SeoulSoxFan said:
You know what that means....
...BB trades with Eagles/49ers/Whomever to get out of 1st and pick up #2, #5, and a #6.
Super Nomario said:I think it's more likely they take someone at 29 that most of the prognosticati have as the #50 prospect, since they won't be able to guess where those players might go behind them.