Yeah, that could be possible and I mis-thought. But despite my lack a mental acuity, my assumption was apparently correct ... according to Sox Prospects, Josh Rutledge has an option remaining.
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To get back to being who he was before he hurt his arm, when he was throwing 95 MPH in the 9th inning of a AAA playoff game.
I'm confused. Why Cuevas? If he's going to start in Kelly's spot, he'll just be sitting in the bullpen for four games. If he's going to relieve, which he hasn't done in years, why not go with Vavaro (and just swap Vavaro for Cuevas/whomever in time for Cuevas's start.)
Vavaro doesn't have options, so if they bring him up they have to keep him up or possibly lose him when they want to send him back to RI.
It's Cuevas for the sole reason that 4-of-5 Sox starters could well end up needing a piggyback from someone able to throw 80 pitches out of the bullpen.
No one but Cuevas can do that today.
No one but Cuevas can do that today.
Could they send Hembree down today, bring up someone else (Cuevas) then bring Hembree back after they put Kelly on the DL tomorrow?
It's actually exactly what they did with Noe Ramirez. He could only be recalled so soon after demotion because he's the countermove to placing Kelly on the DL. Someone else would need to hit the DL if Hembree's going to be back up in the next ten games.
But really, do the Sox need to continue carrying 8 relievers with a gimpy Xander Bogaerts?
The Sox should option Rutledge for Hernandez or Marrero; the improvement in infielder coverage would allow the Sox to simply send down Cuevas for Owens after giving the team a day or two more of bullpen long-man insurance. However, if Farrell's adamant about keeping Rutledge's "bat" on the 25-man, the Sox should demote Cuevas today in favor of Castillo, and forestall the decision of who between Ramirez and Barnes should be sent down to make room for Owens, until the day Kelly's turn comes around again.
Hernandez is already up and has been since last Friday...the bench today is Young, Rutledge, Hernandez and Hanigan. Between Hernandez and Holt, they're covered if Bogaerts can't finish today's game.
Hernandez was sent down yesterday.
Which means the Sox would have to DL someone to call him up again before May. Not insurmountable, but inconvenient.
Speier: The Red Sox will indeed call up Elias today, with plans to bring up Owens later in the weekend.
I guess Elias is protection against a short outing by a starter and then Owens gets the start on Sunday.
Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 7m7 minutes ago
#RedSox recalled LHP Roenis Elias from Triple-A Pawtucket. RHP William Cuevas was optioned to Pawtucket.
#RedSox recalled LHP Roenis Elias from Triple-A Pawtucket. RHP William Cuevas was optioned to Pawtucket.
Could "joining" mean just he's in town with the club as insurance vs. being active on the MLB roster for tonight's game?
Ramirez has pitched in five out of the last seven games -- I imagine that he'll ride the shuttle back to the bucket and Light will be on MLB roster tonight.
With this start Rick Porcello has taken his ERA down below 4. It may be coincidence, but he seems to be very comfortable pitching to Vazquez and he's been doing his #1 job of going deep into the game, plus throwing quality innings into the bargain. If Porcello is someone we can count on this year, the rotation as a whole is a lot healthier. If Price turns it around soon that would give us a top 3 that is at least durable (Price-Porcello-Wright) with E-Rod on the way back. That might be enough to make our rotation an asset rather than the liability it seemed like, especially if Good Buchholz ever shows himself (which I'm a lot less sure about than Price returning to form).
He was pitching against a little league team. Let's wait until he's facing legitimate hitters before concluding to jumptions.
He has pitched four games so far, pitched at least 6 innings in each, and allowed 4, 3, 3, 0 runs. He also pitched at least six innings and allowed three runs or fewer in six of his last eight starts last year. In the two that he didn't, he pitched eight innings allowing four and six innings allowing five. And in 2014 he had 21 starts of six innings and three runs or less.
But clearly the eleven starts in 2015 where he allowed more than three runs are more important.
Which is to say no, it's not jumping to conclusions to think Porcello is a guy we can rely on to get us through the first six innings and keep us in the game. It won't happen every game, but it will happen in most of them. If Price pulls his head out of his ass and any two of Buchholz. Wright, Rodriguez, Henry, Johnson, Elias, and Kelly can be competent, this is going to be a very good team.
I will conclude to the jumption that Porcello is finding a way to figure things out when they go wrong now. He looked in control last night from the get go, crappy team or not. A little momentum and confidence in a starting pitcher goes a long way.
I think I'll conclude to jumptions based on his ability to abuse weak teams and put up quality starts against good offenses. That's kind of the job of the middle of the rotation, which is what Porcello is.
Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 1h1 hour ago
#RedSox recalled INF Deven Marrero and selected OF Ryan LaMarre to the active MLB roster. Both were with Triple-A Pawtucket.
#RedSox recalled INF Deven Marrero and selected OF Ryan LaMarre to the active MLB roster. Both were with Triple-A Pawtucket.
Castillo must be a dick or they think he's just awful. I'm amazed he was sent down for another outfielder, but I guess Lamarre is doing well down there and Castillo is just a mediocre AAA player.
What an awful signing.
What an awful signing.
Assuming the expected addition of Eduardo Rodriguez to the roster and subtraction of Noe Ramirez, the Sox will start the second half of the season with this roster:
Starting Pitchers
Rick Porcello
David Price
Eduardo Rodriguez
Steven Wright
Relief Pitchers
Matt Barnes
Clay Buchholz
Heath Hembree
Tommy Lane
Robbie Ross Jr.
Junichi Tazawa
Koji Uehara
Brad Ziegler
Starting Position Players
C Sandy Leon
1B Hanley Ramirez
2B Dustin Pedroia
3B Travis Shaw
SS Xander Bogaerts
LF Brock Holt
CF Jackie Bradley Jr
RF Mookie Betts
DH David Ortiz
Bench
Bryce Brentz
Ryan Hanigan
Aaron Hill
Michael Martinez
Disabled List
Craig Kimbrel
Sean O'Sullivan
Josh Rutledge
Pablo Sandoval (60 day)
Carson Smith (60 day)
Blake Swihart (60 day)
Chris Young
Edit: Added SOS to DL
Starting Pitchers
Rick Porcello
David Price
Eduardo Rodriguez
Steven Wright
Relief Pitchers
Matt Barnes
Clay Buchholz
Heath Hembree
Tommy Lane
Robbie Ross Jr.
Junichi Tazawa
Koji Uehara
Brad Ziegler
Starting Position Players
C Sandy Leon
1B Hanley Ramirez
2B Dustin Pedroia
3B Travis Shaw
SS Xander Bogaerts
LF Brock Holt
CF Jackie Bradley Jr
RF Mookie Betts
DH David Ortiz
Bench
Bryce Brentz
Ryan Hanigan
Aaron Hill
Michael Martinez
Disabled List
Craig Kimbrel
Sean O'Sullivan
Josh Rutledge
Pablo Sandoval (60 day)
Carson Smith (60 day)
Blake Swihart (60 day)
Chris Young
Edit: Added SOS to DL
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What is the group's best guess on the corresponding move if/when Kelly is activated? DL Tazawa?
My guess is Hembree, but they can kick that can down the road a bit given Kelly's performance in AAA so far. They seem content to keep Layne around, even if he's massively underutilized. If they are willing to wait a week or two, Buchholz would be an option (although that would only happen if the team acquired a SP which would require a roster move in and of itself).
Kelly has only had relief appearances with Lowell so far--not sure when he will join Pawtucket. I would guess he'd get at least 3-4 outings there before joining the MLB club, so I would further guess he's at least 10 days or so away (and that could well be optimistic). By the time this becomes an issue, they should have a better sense of where things stand with Taz (and everyone else).
Hembree and Barnes are the two relievers currently on the roster with options. Hembree seems the likely choice if/when Kelly is ready, unless injury or trade changes the situation.
What's the current status of the K-rod rule?
We're going to have two guys on the 60 day DL who have been there the whole season. Doesn't that mean we can use two guys in the post season even if they aren't on the 40 man on Aug 31?
We're going to have two guys on the 60 day DL who have been there the whole season. Doesn't that mean we can use two guys in the post season even if they aren't on the 40 man on Aug 31?
I believe so .. although I'm not sure if that old "hitter for hitter - pitcher for pitcher" proviso is still in effect. Regardless, we have one of each.
Thanks...I'm just fantasizing about Moncada and Benintendi on the post season roster.
I'd place Buchholz in that starters list for now.
The pen will likely include Kelly (and Kimbrel before long), leaving 5 others - health dependent (Uehara, Tazawa, Ziegler, Ross, Barnes - is my guess, with the first 2 subject to health).
Young returns...Brentz gone. Rutledge never returns.
The pen will likely include Kelly (and Kimbrel before long), leaving 5 others - health dependent (Uehara, Tazawa, Ziegler, Ross, Barnes - is my guess, with the first 2 subject to health).
Young returns...Brentz gone. Rutledge never returns.