Latest rumor is they might be trying to void contact.Yes, the Patriots aren't trading for Antonio Brown. Let's get that out of the way. However, would you trade for AB if the Raiders decided to give him away for basically nothing?
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Where is the report AB abused someone? What did I miss?Redskins kick-the-tires in 3, 2, 1
This is where I am at. Nofa king way.I would not take Antonio Brown if you dropped him on my doorstep saying he's volunteering to play for free.
This. I wouldn’t let that cancerous boil set foot in the parking lot, never mind the team locker room.I would not take Antonio Brown if you dropped him on my doorstep saying he's volunteering to play for free.
Well at least not with his phone and a mobile data signal...This. I wouldn’t let that cancerous boil set foot in the parking lot, never mind the team locker room.
The question is, how much more evidence of derangement do you need to see?The question is, if the Pats were to sign him, they'd only do it (a) for next to nothing, and (b) with the explicit understanding that if he acts like this, he's gone. With those pieces in place, how likely is it that he'd act up? 10%? 50%? 90%?
AB threatened to punch his GM. I'm gonna go with "Yes".I’d take him 10/10 times. Is he really worst that Dillon? Does he have as much baggage as Moss did at the time of the trade? Hell, they went after Gordon who’s missed approximately 312 games since he came into the league. But Brown is too much of a diva? Please.
Corey Dillon punched his wife. I'd go with no. He's not worse than Dillon and I loved Dillon as a Patriot.AB threatened to punch his GM. I'm gonna go with "Yes".
This is where I am at. I would trade nothing for him, since that would put you on the hook for his guaranteed portion of his contract. Now if he is released and wants something with low guarantees and some minimal performance bonuses, a slightly sweetened make-good one year deal, then fine, go for it, but make it very clear that any InstaFace BS or other shenanigans and it's time to hit Rt. 1.I'd take him on a veteran minimum deal, where he has to practice for two weeks with his mouth shut before he gets activated, and is cut after the first misbehavior.
They traded for Albert Haynesworth once. I see Brown as very unlikely based on what's been reported, but they've been willing to give misfits and malcontents opportunities before - with the understanding that they're gone right away if they don't do what's expected. What did Haynesworth last, four weeks?The question is, if the Pats were to sign him, they'd only do it (a) for next to nothing, and (b) with the explicit understanding that if he acts like this, he's gone. With those pieces in place, how likely is it that he'd act up? 10%? 50%? 90%?
Probably even better, and with (at least) 4 fewer deaths! (Great quote by the way)I'd take him on a veteran minimum deal, where he has to practice for two weeks with his mouth shut before he gets activated, and is cut after the first misbehavior.
Brown and Gordon. Just like Hernandez and Stallworth but without death.
To be fair, it is the GM of the Radiers.AB threatened to punch his GM. I'm gonna go with "Yes".
About that. His departure was performance based.They traded for Albert Haynesworth once. I see Brown as very unlikely based on what's been reported, but they've been willing to give misfits and malcontents opportunities before - with the understanding that they're gone right away if they don't do what's expected. What did Haynesworth last, four weeks?
If that's true, that just adds to the idea that the Patriots can get guys to fall in line who might not elsewhere. I think there was more to it than just performance though. There were reports that Haynesworth got into an argument on the sideline with Pepper Johnson; he was benched for the second half and cut shortly thereafter.About that. His departure was performance based.
You're really breaking the big story there. No one else knew that.
I am pretty sure Belichick could muster up the courage to cut anyone on the roster.The question is, how much more evidence of derangement do you need to see?
Who on the hard won 53 are you looking in the eye and cutting? *Yeah, he gets your spot?”
Seriously. That would be the absolute last reason in the world why NE wouldn't pick him up.I am pretty sure Belichick could muster up the courage to cut anyone on the roster.
Yes, and that sucks. But if you think violence at home and violence at the workplace would have the same repercussions with your employer I guess we'll just agree to disagree.Corey Dillon punched his wife. I'd go with no. He's not worse than Dillon and I loved Dillon as a Patriot.
I don't think it has anything to do with Brown being a "diva" and has everything to do with him being an asshole who has shown repeatedly and consistently that he gives zero shits about anybody not named Antonio Brown.I’d take him 10/10 times. Is he really worst that Dillon? Does he have as much baggage as Moss did at the time of the trade? Hell, they went after Gordon who’s missed approximately 312 games since he came into the league. But Brown is too much of a diva? Please.
"Gunner, Shooter, whatever his name was. He worked hard. Did everything we asked. But there are only 53 spots."Seriously. That would be the absolute last reason in the world why NE wouldn't pick him up.
I got a good laugh out of this, Pokey. With every passing second, they’re looking like they got the better end of that deal, i.e., the side which doesn’t have AB anywhere near their football team.At this point in the season, it seems like the Steelers would be the best fit just because it wouldn't take him weeks to learn the playbook and get in sync with the QB. Not sure they would want another go-round, though.
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828016-listen-antonio-brown-drew-rosenhaus-talk-patriots-eagles-before-raiders-tradeWhen Antonio Brown was traded to the Oakland Raiders, few were surprised given the near-constant links between the two sides....The audio is fascinating because it gives a rare behind-the-scenes look at an interaction between an agent and a player. Rosenhaus updates Brown on the current lay of the land, telling him the New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles have perhaps even moved ahead of Oakland in the list of potential destinations.
Yeah, but the situations are totally different.As far as the Pats and AB goes, Bill and Mike Mayock are very close. I don't think that if Bill picked up the phone that Mayock would exactly give him a ringing endorsement at this point.
14.6m guaranteed this season and 14.5 next? I'm not trading for him.Yes, the Patriots aren't trading for Antonio Brown. Let's get that out of the way. However, would you trade for AB if the Raiders decided to give him away for basically nothing?
Arguments on the sideline are pretty common. We have this from Belichick:If that's true, that just adds to the idea that the Patriots can get guys to fall in line who might not elsewhere. I think there was more to it than just performance though. There were reports that Haynesworth got into an argument on the sideline with Pepper Johnson; he was benched for the second half and cut shortly thereafter.
Mike knows what qualities Bill likes in a player. It's clear, at least right now, that AB is not interested in falling in line for anybody. I'd also question how much he loves the game of football. Those are 2 big things with Bill.Yeah, but the situations are totally different.
I of course do not believe it would happen---but Mayock and Gruden are trying to figure out how to build a culture, and AB is a very different part of that goal than he'd be with the Pats. The Pats have a cutlre, they have the ultimate NFL alpha (and probably, between Slater, McCourty, Brady, etc. the ultimate set of them) in the lockerroom and a credibility with the media, the fans, and the owner that is beyond question. AB may think Oakland needs him, Gruden needs him, he's the most important guy on the roster, whatever else. That wont' be true with Pats even for an extreme egomaniac like AB.
If AB comes to the Pats it is on their terms and with total clarity in all directions they will cut him without a second thought, that no one in the NFL or the city of Boston will question them (well, nitwit radio guys and Shank will but not for real--just to fill air), and that his career will then likely be over. That's a totally different hand than Gruden and Mayock are playing. Since this is all true I don't think he'd end up with the Pats, but if he does it will be for a totally different set of reasons than the Raiders got him, and the dynamcs will be equally different.