Just seeing this now. Fucking A'. Respect.A.J. Hinch, crossed the line, Luhnow gone, heavy fine
Draft picks lost, rings are not, owner sad for getting caught
Crane denied part in team's making up the clanging scheme
Taubman censured in the text, Cora, Beltran might be next
We didn't blame Mike Fiers
Can was always banging, since the curveball’s hanging
We didn’t blame Mike Fiers
No, we didn’t hush it, but our barrels crushed it!
We didn’t blame Mike Fiers...
So, so close.Major league baseball players have been using whatever technology they have to steal signs as long as there has been baseball.
I guess the 1954 Giants and the Shot Heard Round the World have been "tarnished" by them using illegal technology to steal signs. Whatever "tarnished" means.
That is INCREDIBLY well done.Yesterday baseball finally had its all-time Twitter moment and it wasn't a good one but there was this...
View: https://twitter.com/jquadddddd/status/1218021838443438081
He left BOS and joined LAA in November.Well this is getting crazy and a good excuse to get rid of TLR
Nice, thanks for the fact check.He left BOS and joined LAA in November.
You KNOW that some opposing team will show that Altuve shirt grab on their stadium screens when he comes to bat. Yankees won't do it but I'd love it if they did next time he faced Chapman.That Altuve video will be shown for the rest of time.
LOL, not really that close, I was off by 3 years.So, so close.
Do people who want the harshest punishments for today's sign stealers even know or care how long this has been going on, and how little outrage there has been until now?Since the story broke, denials and evasiveness from the 1951 Giants have been replaced by cheerful pride.
“Everybody was stealing signs. I don’t know anything about our club (doing that),” smiled and winked 88-year-old Herman Franks, a coach on that famous team and the eagle eye who engineered one of the greatest scams in baseball history.
It was Franks, armed with a military field scope, who allegedly ran the Giants’ sign-stealing operation from the team clubhouse in center field of the old Polo Grounds.
Franks relayed the stolen signs using a buzzer system between the clubhouse and nearby bullpen to backup catcher Sal Yvars who then tipped off Giant hitters.
One hundred and eighty degrees from apologetic, Yvars said the team should take pride in its treachery. The 1951 Giants– who had six future managers on their playing roster– were a sign-stealing machine, Yvars said, picking off signals from opposing coaches and players.
I guess the question is what "this" means in terms of how long this has been going on. To me, the sign stealing the Astros did was likely on a level qualitatively different from what other organizations are doing right now. I'm inferring that from the fact that other MLB players seem genuinely angry about the Astros, in a way that doesn't sound to me like "oh, everybody does it, it's only that the Astros got caught". So I'm generally fine with a harsh punishment for the organization for running an operation on the scale the Astros did. (It's kind of how I felt when Michael Pineda was suspended for copious amounts of pine tar - yeah, everyone uses pine tar, but no one did to the level Pineda did, and he deserved a large suspension for that.) But I'm also cognizant that part of the Astros criticism may be driven by a reaction to the perceived cocky nature of the Astros front office and players, rather than the actual egregiousness of the offense.Do people who want the harshest punishments for today's sign stealers even know or care how long this has been going on, and how little outrage there has been until now?
Ruth? He is signaling where he will hit it.I’m so glad I live in the internet age.
One buzzer for what pitch is coming and another buzzer for when he has to go home for supper.I’m so glad I live in the internet age.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28507148/survey-fans-want-astros-players-punished-sign-stealing-scandalRoughly 3 in 4 Americans (74%) and MLB fans (76%) believe most teams were using technology to steal signs, but it's just the Astros and Red Sox who got caught.
Looks like a hostage video.
Shades of Connor’s eulogy of Mo on Succession lol
That sounds like a game I have no interest in watching. Might as well trade in the players for robots or simulate and watch games on MLB the Show.A few thoughts here...
Sign stealing has been part of the game for generations. Now that we're in an age with higher video quality and higher technology these problems will not go away unless baseball allows for a change on how the signs are given. I am 100% an advocate of a wireless transmitter to communicate pitches, defenses, etc between the players on the field and the dugout. Have MLB govern it and tampering with another teams transmitter will result in penalties stiffer than what the Astros faced. Until something like that happens this problem WILL NOT go away. Hell, the Astros essentially proved the buzzer idea as a proof of concept.
I envision something like a buzzing in the hats or gloves of the people on the field. It could even be a digital display on the underside of the brim of the hats. If your run of the mill cam girl can have a vibrator linked to a mobile app, I don't think it's unreasonable for baseball to have a system of buzzers in the on field hats of its players.
The other thing here is the aspect of this that's getting the most attention is the trashcan banging. My understanding is that by itself, that doesn't break any rules. If the signs were stolen under legitimate means (say a runner on second base) and conveyed back to the dugout, then any sort of audible indicator would be allowed. Am I mistaken?
ya, pretty muchSeeing a catcher flash a series of signs means that much to you?
And this is the reason why it's probably not going to happen, "Purists" with their head in the sand over the actual problem.That sounds like a game I have no interest in watching. Might as well trade in the players for robots or simulate and watch games on MLB the Show.
I'm sure this is just about marketing. They're not forking over millions, I saw a news story that mentioned it was "in the 5 figures."I really don't know what to think of this one, but I'm just putting it out there...
Apparently you can't lose if you bet on the Yankees...
She could have gone with rat or snitch. And stop making me look up words.There certainly are synonyms for whistleblower. Unfortunately, folks like Jessica Mendoza have effectively chosen the most pejorative one to equate what Fiers did.
Bregman “speaks”:
He obviously studied Marshawn Lynch's press availabilities closely:Looks like a hostage video.
Yep, the message was "Paul is dead".Did anyone check his blinking?
To me he’ll always be the guy perennially feuding with Giancarlo Stanton after hitting him in the face with a pitch and later being a dick about it.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/fl-sp-stanton-fiers-feud-20180605-story.html?outputType=amp
There certainly are synonyms for whistleblower. Unfortunately, folks like Jessica Mendoza have effectively chosen the most pejorative one to equate what Fiers did.
She could have gone with rat or snitch. And stop making me look up words.
Reading that article about him and Stanton, and Mendoza’s comments, it certainly seems that Fiers may not be very well liked.She basically equated his actions to those exact two words
Someone much more important doesn't like him much either. At least what he did.Reading that article about him and Stanton, and Mendoza’s comments, it certainly seems that Fiers may not be very well liked.
Yeah, I mean, this is descending further into “How dumb do you think we are?” territory.Wasn't it public?
I'm going to consider myself an All-Star (for that year) with all this stuff that's come out," Merrifield said in an interview with Clubhouse Conversation. "Because MLB player: Astros cheating kept me from being All Star that game. We'll put an asterisk by 2018. And on top of it, we'll go ahead and throw in a silver slugger for good measure."
Yeah, they never intended to get caught. So everyone was cheating, everyone was changing their signs, and the Astros weren't doing it every game... they were just the poor guys who got caught and made an example of. Where was the apology?"When the stuff was going on, it was never intended to be what it's made to be right now."