Yes, that's true. And if there weren't secondary indicators that he'll be successful I wouldn't be so excited.Shelterdog said:Getting a second catch would be nice.
Practice player of the week means less than nothing. The players who wore black jerseys last week: Tyms, Logan Ryan (2 snaps), Tavon Wilson (10), Malcolm Butler (DNP), Chris Barker, Jake Bequette, Josh Boyce, Jonas Gray (last four all on the practice squad). It's a way to give some recognition to players at the back end of the roster or the practice squad.RetractableRoof said:But being named practice player of the week means he caught someones eye that matters.
By BBs quotes we have about 43 guys tied for 1st in the working hard department.Tony C said:Well, it's saying he's a hard worker, something BB added to with his quote about how no one has worked harder.
Does that mean he'll develop route running abilities that will make him more than a 4th or 5th WR? Nope...but physical skills and hard work and seemingly excellent hands are a really good starting point.
Just doing what's best for the football teamStitch01 said:By BBs quotes we have about 43 guys tied for 1st in the working hard department.
Lol -- this is true...Stitch01 said:By BBs quotes we have about 43 guys tied for 1st in the working hard department.
And all 43 collectively get there first in the morning and collectively are the last to leave at night.Stitch01 said:By BBs quotes we have about 43 guys tied for 1st in the working hard department.
Super Nomario said:Practice player of the week means less than nothing. The players who wore black jerseys last week: Tyms, Logan Ryan (2 snaps), Tavon Wilson (10), Malcolm Butler (DNP), Chris Barker, Jake Bequette, Josh Boyce, Jonas Gray (last four all on the practice squad). It's a way to give some recognition to players at the back end of the roster or the practice squad.
It doesn't have to change their deep game. All it has to do is change the defenses they face. If he goes down field enough and takes both a Corner and a Safety with him, then the rest of the offense is in a better place. He (or someone in his role) only needs to catch enough to keep the defenses honest. I personally think he is more than a talented decoy, but if all he is is a decoy that forces a coverage effort there will be more room for Gronk, Julian, and Wright. [SIZE=13.63636302948px]Profit![/SIZE]Toe Nash said:I am glad they made the play and that was a great catch. But as mentioned Brady overthrew him earlier and we've seen him overthrow guys who had separation earlier in the season and in the previous few years. Maybe that was by design but until Brady throws an accurate-enough deep ball semi-consistently I'm skeptical that having Tyms is going to change their deep game.
That doesn't mean that Tyms can't be a good addition or that the offense can't be good but I just don't see us suddenly start bombing down the field.
Very good post, and I really agree.RetractableRoof said:It doesn't have to change their deep game. All it has to do is change the defenses they face. If he goes down field enough and takes both a Corner and a Safety with him, then the rest of the offense is in a better place. He (or someone in his role) only needs to catch enough to keep the defenses honest. I personally think he is more than a talented decoy, but if all he is is a decoy that forces a coverage effort there will be more room for Gronk, Julian, and Wright. Profit!
I was thinking about this last night... A 12 personnel package with Vereen as the back, Gronk, Julian, Wright, and Tyms could leave a defense in a serious pickle. I know there are a lot of reasons why that wouldn't be a primary package (current state of pass blocking being the main)... but it could be a lot of fun to watch.
Right, and I'm skeptical this will happen until Brady gets more consistent, if he ever does. It's not like they just let Edelman or anyone run free over the top now, but the defense tends to cheat towards the mid routes because they know Brady is more accurate there. I don't think one nice pass changes things, nor has the addition of a career practice squad guy made defenses scheme differently.RetractableRoof said:It doesn't have to change their deep game. All it has to do is change the defenses they face. If he goes down field enough and takes both a Corner and a Safety with him, then the rest of the offense is in a better place. He (or someone in his role) only needs to catch enough to keep the defenses honest. I personally think he is more than a talented decoy, but if all he is is a decoy that forces a coverage effort there will be more room for Gronk, Julian, and Wright. [SIZE=13.63636302948px]Profit![/SIZE]
LaFell did have a 56-yard touchdown on a deep sideline route. He has 3 catches of 35+ yards already; no Pats receiver has had more than 3 such plays in a season since 2011. The Tyms play was more highlight-worthy, but LaFell is showing that he can burn defenses if they don't respect him.nothumb said:Agree that Tyms in the 12 gives you something that Lafell doesn't. Gronk, Wright and Vereen are going to have a lot of room to work if he's taking the top off.
His ability to break tackles from CBs and turn that into huge gains is something a deep safety is going to have to worry about, too.Mark Schofield said:One caveat on that SD, one of those 35+ catches was a 4 yard slant against KC that he broke the distance. But I do agree with your overall point.
Ok, but before that first catch of his - he had zero catches, and yet drew a corner & safety and had a late arriving 3rd db on the scene. So the defense in this case already respected his skills (or maybe the route?). Without Brady hitting a bunch of them to show consistency. It has already worked once with no prior history by "a career practice squad guy". Do you actually believe that the Jets on Thursday are going to decide that since it is only a career practice squad guy, there is no need to cover him if he runs a deep route?Toe Nash said:Right, and I'm skeptical this will happen until Brady gets more consistent, if he ever does. It's not like they just let Edelman or anyone run free over the top now, but the defense tends to cheat towards the mid routes because they know Brady is more accurate there. I don't think one nice pass changes things, nor has the addition of a career practice squad guy made defenses scheme differently.
We will see if he continues as a deep threat, but I think we're far from the point where he's changing opposing defenses.
Brady's deep ball is not what it used to be. But neither is Peyton Manning's. If you think Brady's deep ball is better than Geno Smith's or Michael Vick's circa 2014, then having a WR that can actually get open deep and catch what Brady throws him will indeed cause opposing defenses to pay attention. Whether Tyms will be that guy is still TBD, but Brady's deep ball looked a lot better the past 2 games once he was given time to throw.Toe Nash said:I am glad they made the play and that was a great catch. But as mentioned Brady overthrew him earlier and we've seen him overthrow guys who had separation earlier in the season and in the previous few years. Maybe that was by design but until Brady throws an accurate-enough deep ball semi-consistently I'm skeptical that having Tyms is going to change their deep game.
That doesn't mean that Tyms can't be a good addition or that the offense can't be good but I just don't see us suddenly start bombing down the field.
He did - first quarter I think.Stitch01 said:Rewatched the game. I don't think Tyms had a snap tonight, somewhat surprising.
We have a "Nobody works harder than Danny" quote re: Amendola in last night's PC. I chuckled. He's said the exact same quote about Tim Wright like a week ago.Stitch01 said:By BBs quotes we have about 43 guys tied for 1st in the working hard department.