The Game Ball Thread: Kiss the Ring
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Wow, I didn't see how far Butler came from to get to the ball on the live telecast, or in any of the NBC replays, although I'll watch the game again today or tomorrow and look for it. Thanks for that clip.SeoulSoxFan said:
The Patriots had a great plan of attack. Probably the injuries to Lane and Avril helped, but they realized used motion and alignment to scheme open receivers and get favorable matchups. This is where the Patriots being a game plan team helped; Denver had a great scheme and great personnel last year but ran into a buzz saw; the Patriots just do whatever it takes to move the ball.teddykgb said:
I thought the front seven did a nice job of keeping Wilson from running. Only a couple times was he able to pick up first downs with his legs, the rest of the time they kept him moving laterally. I was worried about Wilson managing an epic 30 yard scamper when we needed to hold them in the 4th.
There's an alternate universe where this forum's offseason would largely revolve around the following topics:
- Brady another year older without a ring/Window closed
- How do we replace Revis and hope to keep a strong D? (this is still a ? but it simply matters less in this universe)
- Is there anyone in the draft that can help the team win now?
- Is there anything this team can do to get over the hump? #Kearsed
Just wanting to read somewhere that Brady gives the Chevy truck to Butler; that would be classic.
Lost on the Butler interception, that collision with Lockette was fierce, how the fuck did he hold onto the ball?
Hendoo said:
Kid apparently has good ball skills, was picking people off in training camp all over.
Watched the NFL.com highlight of the game (which is shockingly short...4 mins???)
The Lane arm break, you can see Thomas walk up and then turn around in disgust.
The Lane arm break, you can see Thomas walk up and then turn around in disgust.
What a low bar we've set where we can have a game with a blown call that should have been a first down and a positioning issue that resulted in a touchdown and call it well-officiated. Bring back the replacement refs. And give us replay on penalties.Tony C said:
Jed Zeppelin said:
The "curse" narrative would absolutely have been everywhere, including in OUR heads as Pats fans. Add having to deal with an entire nation dripping in smug, righteous schadenfreude, and the rest of 2015 would have been ridiculously painful. As Pats fans, we owe a boundless debt of gratitude to Malcolm Butler.
Seriously, I think we should set up a fund for Butler's descendants. No Butler should ever want for anything again.
brandonchristensen said:
This needs to be repeated amidst all the moaning about not giving Lynch (1-for-5 from the 1-yard line regular season} the ball at the end. Also, Lynch was stoned on a 3rd-and-2 and on a 3rd-and-1 earlier in the game.
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Old Fart Tree said:
Yep. Although I'd call that a "good" foul - the downside of getting caught is ball at the spot of the foul. The downside of giving up that catch is probably 15-20 YAC.
And I'd say the non-call more or less evened out what should have been roughing the kicker on the Pats' first drive.
MentalDisabldLst said:
Absolutely the right move given it was man-to-man coverage. He was pretty subtle about it to, I'm not at all surprised the refs missed it in realtime.
MentalDisabldLst said:
Drilling him was absolutely the right call. Worst case scenario: personal foul for 15 yards and a 1st after the incompletion. The completed pass gave Seattle 40 yards (whatever it was) and a first.
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Completely agree, but if he DOES decide to drill Kearse, does he necessarily get flagged? Is Kearse a defenseless receiver still, and thus there is no legal way to play defense?
MentalDisabldLst said:
Officials seem pretty lenient usually on contact following a tip, I think Harmon could've gotten away with a lot as long as we was making a good-faith effort to go after the ball.
I finally was able to go watch the 4th quarter of the 2010 season Super Bowl. Complete with Welker drop and Manningham catch. And able to feel like all that doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1anLeOj08
Eli made one sweet throw to Manningham and that was a great catch. Chung got there 0.3 seconds too late to push him out. And Brady could have thrown the Welker ball a tiny bit lower, but as Michaels said, "Welker makes that catch 100 times out of 100".
Wow. Such a big win last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1anLeOj08
Eli made one sweet throw to Manningham and that was a great catch. Chung got there 0.3 seconds too late to push him out. And Brady could have thrown the Welker ball a tiny bit lower, but as Michaels said, "Welker makes that catch 100 times out of 100".
Wow. Such a big win last night.
Stevie1der said:
Rather than drilling him he could have attempted the INT. That is the part I don't get, there was a live ball in front of him, even if he thinks it is going to hit the ground he should be doing everything he can to either ensure it does hit the ground or better yet come up with the catch himself.
rodderick said:
I'm done with '07. I'm over it. If the Seahawks had gone 4 and out last night and the Patriots took a victory formation in non-dramatic fashion, maybe I'd feel differently. But after the Kearse catch, and then having the Patriots make the last second Houdini play, I'm going to view every moment from 2005 to now as one, long 10 year season that culminated in a trophy last night.
So many crazy gut punches in between titles:DennyDoyle said:
Watson chases down Champ, no touchback
Face guarding, Bug eyes, flu, Eric Alexander, crowd noise
42
Brady's knee
46
All the angst is washed away.
It was noted by Collinsworth at the time, but huge kudos to McDaniels for recognizing that Edelman toasted Simon on that route once already (bad Brady overthrow) and going back to the well. Poor guy had no chance of covering JE.
Jed Zeppelin said:
To that effect, is that route even coverable when Edelman runs it like that? I mean, it seems to me the only way to stop it is by holding his jersey. Just crazy how agile he is.
Well said. This feels a lot like October 2004. Bucky Bleepin Dent mattered (Schiraldi/Stanley/Gedman in 86 etc., etc.) a lot less then. Tyree's stupid helmet catch matters a lot less now.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
Watching that again . . . it was a bummer to see Mankins suck so bad. He was awful in this game.crystalline said:
The Welker drop/mis throw was obviously a killer, but even after the Giants scored, on that last possession if Branch hauls that in we are looking at 1st and 10 from at least the giants 45 or better with alot of clock left.
Too many drops late in the game.
but yeah, i can watch that without it stinging now. Thanks, TFB.
There was zero chance Harmon could have intercepted that ball. He was coming in full speed, saw both Kearse and Butler on the ground with the ball loose. 99 times out of 100 that's an incomplete pass; hitting the guy in that scenario results in a costly penalty 99 times out of 100. Had Harmon been positioned differently, sure, then there's a chance he could have made a play. But not in that case.j44thor said:
I think it was such a good play by Butler that it made the play call look incredibly stupid. Without such an aggressive and confident move by 21, could have easily been a TD or 2nd down.P said:
Edit: I mean 3rd down.
This cannot be repeated enough. The mediots find a narrative to attempt to minimize the greatness of the Patriots - and they stick to it until the end of time. Like the Big Lie of the Soviet Union. No different than Stalin.Harry Hooper said:
I am soaking it up like never before.
All my Pat hating friends at work were speechless. So sweet
Game balls to all but for me Vereen stood out. That catch on the low pass over the middle was sweet. Those 3 and 5 and 6 yard plays were somewhat frustrating to watch as I was hoping he would break one but those plays were relentless. Plus Seattle never misses a tackle.
I just re-watched the game, and while I wasn't looking for it specifically, man, the Patriots receivers all caught essentially everything thrown their way. No bad drops, and an awful lot of tough catches, especially by Vereen. The only drop I can remember is one throw to Amendola that wasn't a gimme, where he was going to get killed if he caught it, and likely would have been stopped short of the 1st down anyway.
heh -- precisely my reaction: "Danny, we expect you to get yourself killed if a 1st down is there. Since you were short anyway, we'll give ya a pass on the expected kamikaze process"
Gotta love football.
(and, yeah, Vereen's one-handed catch was insane.
Gotta love football.
(and, yeah, Vereen's one-handed catch was insane.
Tony C said:
Vereen hasn't always had the surest of hands, but he had them at the most important time. Sweet.
Although Butler was awesome, I do feel kind of bad for Kyle Arrington, who I thought had a very good season overall as the #3 CB (mostly covering guys who weren't half a foot taller than him).
For me it is:
1) Edelman: The dude is just a machine. Just about everything he is able to get his hands on is a catch, even when he gets crushed by the defense. He is kind of scary to watch at times, because I am always afraid that the next one is the one he doesn't get up from. But every time he gets up. Unreal.
2) Brady: Yeah.... one awful interception early, a second interception in the second half but I really thought that was just a great play by the linebacker to get to it. But when it came down to it, he was as close to flawless as you could hope a quarterback to be in the fourth quarter against one of the best defenses in the NFL. There have been times in the past where he has made a mistake and let it rattle him.... but not last night, and it was glorious to watch.
3) Butler: Man, what an awesome awesome play..... and really a great game for him from the time he came in.
4) Everyone else on the team: This was such a team victory, and this has been my absolute favorite Pats team to watch. Not only were they loaded with talent, but the personalities were there as well. just a bunch of really good dudes who made it easy to root for them. I am on record in various threads as being on of the ones who is done with the NFL after Brady and Belichick retire (I already exclusively watch the Patiots games and nothing else).... but if the Krafts manage to keep the core of this team together I might be hard pressed not to continue cheering for them.
What an awesome season. What an awesome finish.
1) Edelman: The dude is just a machine. Just about everything he is able to get his hands on is a catch, even when he gets crushed by the defense. He is kind of scary to watch at times, because I am always afraid that the next one is the one he doesn't get up from. But every time he gets up. Unreal.
2) Brady: Yeah.... one awful interception early, a second interception in the second half but I really thought that was just a great play by the linebacker to get to it. But when it came down to it, he was as close to flawless as you could hope a quarterback to be in the fourth quarter against one of the best defenses in the NFL. There have been times in the past where he has made a mistake and let it rattle him.... but not last night, and it was glorious to watch.
3) Butler: Man, what an awesome awesome play..... and really a great game for him from the time he came in.
4) Everyone else on the team: This was such a team victory, and this has been my absolute favorite Pats team to watch. Not only were they loaded with talent, but the personalities were there as well. just a bunch of really good dudes who made it easy to root for them. I am on record in various threads as being on of the ones who is done with the NFL after Brady and Belichick retire (I already exclusively watch the Patiots games and nothing else).... but if the Krafts manage to keep the core of this team together I might be hard pressed not to continue cheering for them.
What an awesome season. What an awesome finish.
