Kliq said:Amendola- His best game as a Patriot by far. He looked really good returning kicks and working special teams, and he ran a nasty route to haul in the gw score.
Brady- Every time he was given good protection, he stepped up with a clean and accurate throw. Great job throwing on the run to Amendola and if it wasn't for a couple costly drops, this game wouldn't have been as close.
Hightower- Actively riled up the defense in the second half and got their shit together. He needs to step up as a leader without Mayo, and tonight was a good sign.
The Joneses- Chandler is blossoming into an elite playmaker (his play on the Vick option was tremendous) Chris Jones added some good pressure from the interior and obviously got the blocked fg, and even that special teamer made two really solid tackles covering punts.
nothumb said:Everybody on our team named Jones did something awesome. Any FAs named Jones we can target for the Meadowlands game?
Dollar said:
Tebucky might be a little too old to produce at this point, but watch for his son to land on BB's draft radar as a junior WR out of Fordham.
How great would it be to see Tom Brady throw TD passes to Tebucky Jones in 2015?
Really tough to second guess this tonight. The 3 points was the margin of victory, and if the Jets had 30 more seconds they very likely would have won.Stitch01 said:Gonna vent here for two minutes about something: I hate how fucking conservative BB has become with in game decisions. Kicking on all the 4th and shorts (the FG tonight was more defensible than some other recent kicks as the team clearly had no confidence in running at the Jets, but going for it still clearly plus EV) running three times tonight when the first down seals the game. It bit them in the ass in the Carolina and Miami losses last year and it's going to get them this year at some point. BB never goes for it on that 4th and 2 against the Colts now and I fucking hate it.
On the other hand, he didn't go five wide on a 2 point conversion with Geno Smith while running at will sooooo.....yeah could be worse.
Tebucky Jones' kid is headed into the draft? Do it, Bill, more Tebucky.Dollar said:
Tebucky might be a little too old to produce at this point, but watch for his son to land on BB's draft radar as a junior WR out of Fordham.
How great would it be to see Tom Brady throw TD passes to Tebucky Jones Jr. in 2015?
Do you have statistics on the run / passing on second down in the final series? As far as I know, no one tracks end-of-game scenarios to this level of detail.Stitch01 said:I'm not basing it on the results of a single dice roll, it's been a pattern over years. They had a better chance of converting a first down than punting and holding. Running on first down is OK because completing a first down pass on first down doesn't completely end the game since the Jets had a time out and helps I'd you fail and running on third down after the second down atrocity was fine, but not throwing on second down was really, really bad and burnt win equity. They played all game like they couldn't run against the Jets defense then gave up and put the game in the hands of a defense that struggled to get stops all night. Its different if they could have run the clock down to 30 seconds or something, but 1:10 is an eternity when a FG beats you. The Jets ran two pretty terrible plays to start the drive and still made it to FG range.
I'm sure the advanced stats will show the FG was bad too, and they're probably better off going for it, but given they didn't even attempt to run the ball on this front seven it's fairly marginal so whatever. They kick so often on fourth and short though, it's been a disappointing regression.
Jimy Hendrix said:Gotta go with Amendola. Only a few plays, but boy were they high impact.
I'm not sure that was the case during the end of the game. The clock was a big factor. Running on first down forced the Jets to use their final timeout. By running on 2nd down, they made sure that was the final play prior to the 2 minute warning, which allowed them to kill the clock after the 3rd down play. The chances of a Jets win after being pinned at the 12 with just over a minute left and no timeouts were not good (10.3%, to be exact). The D should have held up better on that final drive; they left way too much room for the Jets receivers given that they were only rushing 3.Stitch01 said:I'm not basing it on the results of a single dice roll, it's been a pattern over years. They had a better chance of converting a first down than punting and holding. Running on first down is OK because completing a first down pass on first down doesn't completely end the game since the Jets had a time out and helps I'd you fail and running on third down after the second down atrocity was fine, but not throwing on second down was really, really bad and burnt win equity. They played all game like they couldn't run against the Jets defense then gave up and put the game in the hands of a defense that struggled to get stops all night. Its different if they could have run the clock down to 30 seconds or something, but 1:10 is an eternity when a FG beats you. The Jets ran two pretty terrible plays to start the drive and still made it to FG range.
I'm sure the advanced stats will show the FG was bad too, and they're probably better off going for it, but given they didn't even attempt to run the ball on this front seven it's fairly marginal so whatever. They kick so often on fourth and short though, it's been a disappointing regression.
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/why_did_official_help_patriots_avoid_penalty_before_jets_game-ending_field_goal_got_blocked.htmlFOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Brace yourselves for another officiating controversy involving a field goal at the end of a Jets-Patriots game, America. Because what the heck is this?
Thursday night, Jets kicker Nick Folk tried a 58-yard field goal on the game's final play. The try was obviously a longshot (duh): Folk had never made a kick attempt longer than 56 yards, and this one was blocked by Patriots defensive end Chris Jones. The Patriots won, 27-25, and the Jets got to slink back to Florham Park to figure out what to do, their season in ashes now that they're 1-6 with six straight losses.
Now, the Jets did plenty wrong and deserved to lose. Their season is a trash heap because they stink. But this isn't a good look for the NFL's officiating crew.
Check out what happened just before the ball was snapped. Patriots linebacker Dont'a Hightower approached the line of scrimmage and attempted to stand just over Jets long snapper Tanner Purdum. According to the rule book, this should have been a five-yard penalty. But instead, an official stepped in, grabbed Hightower by his right arm, and presumably told him to move over, which Hightower quickly did. But why?
An NFL spokesman did not immediately return an email message seeking comment, but that might have something to do with the fact that it's now past 3 a.m.
You can watch the video here; I'd embed it, but the NFL would rather not do anything to make life easy for its fans.
RedOctober3829 said:
I noticed this right before the play but did not think anything of it. However, the first thing I looked for after the kick was blocked was a flag. I almost assumed there had to be a flag based both on how bad the officiating was in this game, and also what happened after the missed field goal in the game at the Meadowlands last year with the bs call.RedOctober3829 said:
Stitch01 said:Gonna vent here for two minutes about something: I hate how fucking conservative BB has become with in game decisions. Kicking on all the 4th and shorts (the FG tonight was more defensible than some other recent kicks as the team clearly had no confidence in running at the Jets, but going for it still clearly plus EV) running three times tonight when the first down seals the game. It bit them in the ass in the Carolina and Miami losses last year and it's going to get them this year at some point. BB never goes for it on that 4th and 2 against the Colts now and I fucking hate it.
Player safety. The long snapper is considered indefensible since he's busy snapping the football. They don't 4 guys crashing down on the center before he has a chance to block.loshjott said:Why the heck should that be a penalty anyway? I'll never understand the NFL rule book.
They in fact did throw on 3rd down on that last drive against the Seahawks.Bellhorn said:
And don't forget the Seattle game in 2012, which may have been the worst of all - they went run-and-punt with 3 minutes left despite having amassed over 450 yards of offense, and still having the crappy pre-Talib secondary.
Where do you get the 10.3% figure?lexrageorge said:I'm not sure that was the case during the end of the game. The clock was a big factor. Running on first down forced the Jets to use their final timeout. By running on 2nd down, they made sure that was the final play prior to the 2 minute warning, which allowed them to kill the clock after the 3rd down play. The chances of a Jets win after being pinned at the 12 with just over a minute left and no timeouts were not good (10.3%, to be exact). The D should have held up better on that final drive; they left way too much room for the Jets receivers given that they were only rushing 3.
The pass defense wasn't that bad. The Jets averaged 5.5 yards per pass attempt, which is low. The run D was pitiful but didn't factor into that situation, obviously.Stitch01 said:I'd say the Jets were much better than 9-1 to get into field goal range when they got the ball back given how the defense had played all night.
Super Nomario said:
Where do you get the 10.3% figure?
This.ivanvamp said:FWIW, the Patriots have played 4 games in 17 days, coming off a game where they lost three hugely important players to injury, with very little time to adjust. They played against a team that was playing for their season, and who, other than that one blown coverage on the Pats' first drive, played incredibly well.
Silverdude2167 said:This.
They won a Thursday night game after losing their defensive captain and one of the main cogs of their run defense. This article by ((Football by Football) http://www.footballbyfootball.com/lockerroom/preparing-for-thursday-nfl-games), I think could explain alot of the run defense issues. Vince had a bad game, but I would not be surprised to learn that his body could not perform well on 3 days rest.
Also the Charges beat the Raiders by 3 last week, division games are rarely easy.