The Game Ball Thread: Wk 2: vs Rextown

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Brady is the 10th oldest player in the NFL and just threw the ball 59 times and racked up 466 yards, which is the most ever against the fucking Buffalo Bills.

It's insane.
 

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Couldn't agree more -- such a narcissism signifier.
And it's so transparently disingenuous. Look at me, I'm taking the blame, I'm such a players coach and stand-up guy. Dope.
 

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MyDaughterLovesTomGordon said:
Brady is the 10th oldest player in the NFL and just threw the ball 59 times and racked up 466 yards, which is the most ever against the fucking Buffalo Bills.
It's insane.
With what should have been 4 TDs if Chandler held on to either of those balls in the end zone. There aren't enough superlatives to describe TB12. I've run out.
 

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You have to hand it to Rex. All of his bluster has fans and media completely blinded to the complete fraud he is as a coach. Never seen anything quite like it.
 

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You have to hand it to Rex. All of his bluster has fans and media completely blinded to the complete fraud he is as a coach. Never seen anything quite like it.
He's the best self promoter I've ever seen. We could all learn something from him in that respect.
 

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Funny thing about Rex, two questions after taking the blame he refuses to give an example of how he was outcoached. Then when pressed note they had more penalties than the Pats and the "refs maybe came to watch them."
 

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And it's so transparently disingenuous. Look at me, I'm taking the blame, I'm such a players coach and stand-up guy. Dope.
Yeah, the "look at me, I'm taking the blame" bit is ridiculous when it's followed up by petulant child responses when the media ask him if his dumb ass braggadocio early in the week might not have been good for the team.  "Yeah, that's why we lost."
Fuck you lap band fatty.  If you're gonna pretend to be a mature adult then try to stick with it for more than 30 seconds.
 

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He's the best self promoter I've ever seen. We could all learn something from him in that respect.
We were comparing him to Trump in another thread, but I think he had much better longevity than Donald will show.
 

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reggiecleveland said:
Funny thing about Rex, two questions after taking the blame he refuses to give an example of how he was outcoached. Then when pressed note they had more penalties than the Pats and the "refs maybe came to watch them."
I thought he was trying to say that the refs thought the fans came to watch them (watch the refs instead of the players). Maybe you're saying that too.
 

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I thought he was trying to say that the refs thought the fans came to watch them (watch the refs instead of the players). Maybe you're saying that too.
Which is also childish and stupid because I can't remember a single call going either way that I thought wasn't legit.
 

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I'd like to put the guard that didn't change (despite all of the promises) in either the up or down category... 
 

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Lesson learned for the Buffalo Bills: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13705745/rex-ryan-accepts-blame-buffalo-bills-loss-duke-williams-predicts-playoff-rematch-new-england-patriots
 

"We came up short," Williams said when speaking on the Bills' response to an injury to safety Aaron Williams. "We're gonna come back, though. We're gonna play this team two more times. And it's just a learning standpoint."
 
Asked to elaborate on whether he meant that the Bills would meet the Patriots in the playoffs, Willimas responded, "Of course."
 

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The one thing that kinda sucked as I was watching his ridiculous press conference is that Rex is now bringing this act to the Bills.

It was one thing when he did this shit with the Jets. That whole organization is embarrassing top to bottom, and their fans are even worse.

But Buffalo Is a franchise I like with a fanbase that loves them more than anything in a depressed area of the country – this despite the fact that they lost four consecutive Super Bowls, which would have sent Boston fans into a permanent vegetative state. They deserve better than this blowhard getting them all jacked up so he can imagine himself as their savior.
 

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Yeah, I agree -- have always had a soft spot for the Bills. On the flip, they're a pretty talented squad now, so fortunate they have Rex to screw it up -- my soft spot for them would go away if they start beating the Pats.
 

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Tom Brady gets a game ball for this week's game.  Not that it matters.   Gods do not answer internet posts.   But that guy is a goddamn beast.
 

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MyDaughterLovesTomGordon said:
Is there another list that's going to come out this week and tell us that Brady isn't the best QB in the league?
 
Meh, Brady's a system QB. I'd take a QB with true talent like Kaepernick over him any day of the week.
 

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Rex looked pretty lost, dumbfounded, and humiliated the whole game. His facial expressions while the Pat's offense dominated the Bills were priceless. When he said he was out coached I think he really meant it.
 

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Btw what exactly was the point of the challenge he attempted early in the game? Did he really feel the 4 yards or so was worth burning a challenge 5 minutes into the game? Still would have been 4th and 7 or so if memory serves. The rule that the play was not reviewable saved him from himself there.
 

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Btw what exactly was the point of the challenge he attempted early in the game? Did he really feel the 4 yards or so was worth burning a challenge 5 minutes into the game? Still would have been 4th and 7 or so if memory serves. The rule that the play was not reviewable saved him from himself there.
 
In fairness, the replay looked pretty conclusive in Rex's favor. But i agree that it was part and parcel of his whole over-amped thing that led to approximately 127 personal fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties being called on the Bills. 
 

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In fairness, the replay looked pretty conclusive in Rex's favor. But i agree that it was part and parcel of his whole over-amped thing that led to approximately 127 personal fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties being called on the Bills.
Oh definitely. Had it been reviewable he would have won the challenge. But why was that 4 yards worth burning a challenge when they would have punted even when they win the challenge?
 

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The one thing that kinda sucked as I was watching his ridiculous press conference is that Rex is now bringing this act to the Bills.

It was one thing when he did this shit with the Jets. That whole organization is embarrassing top to bottom, and their fans are even worse.

But Buffalo Is a franchise I like with a fanbase that loves them more than anything in a depressed area of the country this despite the fact that they lost four consecutive Super Bowls, which would have sent Boston fans into a permanent vegetative state. They deserve better than this blowhard getting them all jacked up so he can imagine himself as their savior.
Sometime I think about all of that.
And then I remember what happened with Flutie.
Fuck 'em.
 

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Well, this exists. The amateur Truthers (Gaters?) are out again. This time from the Bills "official" forum:
 
http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?517419-Ronald-Torbert-Head-Official-Bills-Pats-VP-Barton-Malow-325-million-from-Kraft

 
Dbreezies brought this to light in another topic, but it really deserves its own topic.
 
The head official from Sunday's Bills/Patriots encounter happens to be Vice President for Barton Malow:
 
http://www.bartonmalow.com/voices/20...ent-promotions
 
Beacon/Barton Malow was the construction manager for Gillette stadium. Beacon/Barton Malow is a joint venture between Boston-based Beacon Skanska Construction Co. and Barton Malow Sports in Baltimore. Beacon/Barton Malow were funded $325 million from Robert Kraft. $40 million of this is being paid by Kraft over the course of 25 years (i.e. payments are still occurring between Kraft and Barton Malow).
 
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...MGI-Field.aspx
 

This "research" came from this post:


 
I've been doing some research, and believe we can prove that today's game was rigged. The head official was Ron Torbert. He is a lawyer, and Vice-President for a construction company called Barton Malow. Guess who built Gillette Stadium for $326 million in 2010? You guessed it: Barton Malow. Here are the links:
 
http://www.bartonmalow.com/voices/20...ent-promotions
 
Scroll down and you'll remember his fat face making phantom calls all day that demoralized the team and the crowd. 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillette_Stadium
 
Why is a VP of the company that was paid hundreds of millions by Robert Kraft officiating a Patriots game?
 


Of course, Gillette was opened in 2002 and Ron Torbert didn't work for Barton Malow until many years after, but YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH SIX-DEGREES!
 

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Yeah, I agree -- have always had a soft spot for the Bills. On the flip, they're a pretty talented squad now, so fortunate they have Rex to screw it up -- my soft spot for them would go away if they start beating the Pats.
 
Remember, last year, without Rex, they went 9-7 with a journeyman QB and had the 4th ranked defense in the league. If Rex goes 8-8 with a top 10 defense, that's a regression, not that any of those yokels would believe that.
 
I don't have anything against the Bills or their fans either, but if they buy into the Sexy Rexy Gladtime Follies in fun force then they deserve every bad thing that naturally follows such a fucking farce.
 
I think Kyle Williams summed it up perfectly after the game yesterday. He nails all the hallmarks of a Rex team:
 
 
"I'm embarassed.....There's a difference between coming out fired-up and ready to play, and coming out and being totally without poise, without focus, doing a lot of stupid idiotic stuff. That plays right into their hands. It looks bad for us, bad for our fans. It's inexcusable and it's terrible."
 
WELCOME TO REXYTOWN, KYLE. YOUR COACH IS AN EMOTIONAL INFANT. ENJOY THE DISAPPOINTMENT.
 

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Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
I don't have anything against the Bills or their fans either, but if they buy into the Sexy Rexy Gladtime Follies in fun force then they deserve every bad thing that naturally follows such a fucking farce.
 
:bravo:
 

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Well, this exists. The amateur Truthers (Gaters?) are out again. This time from the Bills "official" forum:
 
 
Of course, Gillette was opened in 2002 and Ron Torbert didn't work for Barton Malow until many years after, but YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH SIX-DEGREES!
Ah yes. The "I'm going to throw this game for a team that once hired my employer and has no need to hire my employer again, a decision which carries massive personal risk against absolutely no possibility of personal gain. In fact, if the very party I am ostensibly helping (my employer) found out, they would be shamed and almost certainly fire me." maneuver.

Shrewd.


He should have just said "I heard he had money on the game".
 

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It strikes me as odd that an executive of a company that is being paid $25M annually by Kraft (if that is true) would be officiating a Patriots game.  If you found that out about an opponent and the ref at a Patriots game, I think you'd wonder.  
 
Whether the financial arrangements are as described is another matter.   It is unlikely that a construction manager would agree to be paid out over 25 years.  More likely it was paid in full when the job was completed and the project was then financed with a long-term loan, meaning that Kraft is paying a bank $25M a year.
 

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Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
 
 
Remember, the guy who says "it's all my fault" after losses almost inevitably takes full credit when their team wins. Rex saying "it's my fault" is another sign of his ego raging out of control.
 
Yeah, a coach who takes blame after a loss and says he has to coach better is a raging ego maniac. 
 

 
 

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The one thing that kinda sucked as I was watching his ridiculous press conference is that Rex is now bringing this act to the Bills.

It was one thing when he did this shit with the Jets. That whole organization is embarrassing top to bottom, and their fans are even worse.

But Buffalo Is a franchise I like with a fanbase that loves them more than anything in a depressed area of the country – this despite the fact that they lost four consecutive Super Bowls, which would have sent Boston fans into a permanent vegetative state. They deserve better than this blowhard getting them all jacked up so he can imagine himself as their savior.
 
Buffalo is a great sports town and their fans deserve better, but the Bills organization has been pretty embarrassing in its own right for some time.  Glad to see local guy Terry Pegula buy the team and keep it in Western NY but he is no Bob Kraft.
 

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They should check portfolios/mutual funds of refs working Seahawks games to make sure they have no connection to Microsoft.
 

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Hey Bills fans, you do know all those times it takes 3 minutes to announce the penalty? That's because the referee, while the one to announce it, is frequently not the one who actually threw the flag.  Unless those conferences go something like:
linesman: offsides #95 New England
Ref: Kraft won't make his payment this year if i call that so lets say illegal formation, Buffalo
 

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Now I've heard it all. Cris Carter on Mike and Mike is gushing over Brady, Gronk, and Edelman. Paraphrasing:
 
"You don't know who's running the ball... As a defense, you have no idea what their scheme is. Brady is throwing the ball as hard as I've ever seen him."
 
"They are the class of the league. They find value in places no one else does. It's amazing to watch Edelman, a rare type, a dominant player on any team. Then they find a RB that is out of football for 2 years and he goes bam, bam, bam. Defenses have no idea and that's every team in the league."
 

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Koufax said:
It strikes me as odd that an executive of a company that is being paid $25M annually by Kraft (if that is true) would be officiating a Patriots game.  If you found that out about an opponent and the ref at a Patriots game, I think you'd wonder.  
 
Whether the financial arrangements are as described is another matter.   It is unlikely that a construction manager would agree to be paid out over 25 years.  More likely it was paid in full when the job was completed and the project was then financed with a long-term loan, meaning that Kraft is paying a bank $25M a year.
 
 
Problem with the riggage theory is, was there any really bad calls in the game?
 

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Problem with the riggage theory is, was there any really bad calls in the game?
Seemed that the refs called this game very tight. Pats had 11 penalties for 119 yards, Bills 14-140.
 

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Problem with the riggage theory is, was there any really bad calls in the game?
A lot of the Bills' penalties were on special teams and unsportsmanlike conduct. Not a whole lot of ticky tacky holding or PI from what I remember.
 

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I think they had a legit gripe on the OPI on Watkins. Butler seemed to just slip. CBS did a really bad job with the replay's of penalties. They hardly showed any. I thought Buffalo got away with DPI on one of the Gronk seam routes in the 2nd quarter. Looked like the LB chopped Gronk's hands right before the ball got there. The PI's tend to even out though, I guess.
 

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Yeah, a coach who takes blame after a loss and says he has to coach better is a raging ego maniac. 
 

 
 
If you actually listen to his pressers instead of trying to score cheap internet points, you'd know Belichick always always ALWAYS uses the term "we" to describe things. NEVER "I".
 

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JohnnyK said:
The Watkins OPI was a bad call, but it was the only one IMHO.
 
Which washes out the terrible non-call vs. Gronk, when Hughes hacked away at Gronk's arms a good 1-2 seconds before the ball got there.
 
Gronk had him clearly beat and would have been a big gain.
 

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Which washes out the terrible non-call vs. Gronk, when Hughes hacked away at Gronk's arms a good 1-2 seconds before the ball got there.
 
Gronk had him clearly beat and would have been a big gain.
 
There was also a helmet to helmet hit on Gronk across the middle that went uncalled.
 
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There was also a helmet to helmet hit on Gronk across the middle that went uncalled.
Does it count when it's helmet-to-helmet-to-helmet because it looked to me like BOTH defenders hitting him made contact with their helmets.
 

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Holy shit.
 
tims4wins post might not be so far off.  The Rapist and Mariota might legitimately be the best QB's they face all year?
Hey, I know how everyone feels about the Colts, but Andrew Luck is their QB and he's exceptionally good.
 

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Now I've heard it all. Cris Carter on Mike and Mike is gushing over Brady, Gronk, and Edelman. Paraphrasing:
 
"You don't know who's running the ball... As a defense, you have no idea what their scheme is. Brady is throwing the ball as hard as I've ever seen him."
 
"They are the class of the league. They find value in places no one else does. It's amazing to watch Edelman, a rare type, a dominant player on any team. Then they find a RB that is out of football for 2 years and he goes bam, bam, bam. Defenses have no idea and that's every team in the league."
Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless were falling all over reach other with praise for Belichick and Brady, with a different slant, however. Stephen A. kept saying Brady is 1 - 1A with Aaron Rodgers, but maintained that the real star is Belichick for his "system". Bayless just loves Brady and pointed out that Belichick's main strength has always been his defense coaching, and why did an inexperienced QB like Tyrod Taylor do so well yesterday. Good to hear those clowns so positive, and no DFG or other shit while waking up flipping around the dial. 
 

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Hey, I know how everyone feels about the Colts, but Andrew Luck is their QB and he's exceptionally good.
 
 
Agreed, let's not kid ourselves - Tyrod Taylor did go 23/30, 242 yards, with 3TD yesterday. He threw the three picks, but two of them IIRC hit his receivers' hands and the other was sort of a hail mary before the first half ended. Tyrod Taylor, who on his best day is probably 50% of what Andrew Luck is.
 
I think the D is going to improve over the next few weeks, and I also think some of Taylor's stats are due to the defense playing off for much of the fourth quarter, but let's not go whistling by the graveyard when it comes to Andrew Luck just yet, regardless of how bad they are defensively. He could absolutely torch this secondary as it currently stands and we'd be fools to be surprised by it, particularly considering that the game is indoors in Indianapolis.
 
Edit: Removed link to yesterday's box score.
 

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Brady gets the game ball. I just re-watched and the Pats had 5-7 drops in that game. Brady was nearly perfect. If Dobson/Lewis/Edelman/Chandler catch the balls that hit their hands then Brady ties/breaks Bledsoe's record for completions in a game (45).
 
Brady was just ridiculously locked in. He missed Edelman on the 4th and 1 but I can't remember another missed throw...on 59 attempts...against a good defense on the road. That's crazy.
 

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"They are the class of the league. They find value in places no one else does. It's amazing to watch Edelman, a rare type, a dominant player on any team. Then they find a RB that is out of football for 2 years and he goes bam, bam, bam."
If there was a list of "best offenses without a first round draft pick at a skill position" I'd imagine the Patriots since Moss left would dominate the top 10.