The Michael McCorkle "Mac" Jones Thread
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EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE ALL THE TIME
<sigh> i hate the pick but that probably means it’s awesome. Whatever.
<sigh> i hate the pick but that probably means it’s awesome. Whatever.
Gave up no future picks or any other picks to get him. Worthwhile gamble. Doesn't mortgage the future. I'm on board.
Based on that highlight package, if the Patriots get a bunch of receivers five yards behind the defense all season long, they just drafted the guy who can hit them.
I'm not convinced, but it sounds like a lot of posters are excited!
I'm not convinced, but it sounds like a lot of posters are excited!
Be very interesting how he further develops but he’s good at decision making and gets the ball out quickly which is what Cam can’t do. To get one of the top 5 QBs without trading up is a bonus. Now let’s get the job done tomorrow and get another WR.
Half of those highlights are nice throws and half of them show why Waddle and Smith were taken before he was.
Was it the right call?
YT reels:
View: https://youtu.be/2YdVut_UKoc
View: https://youtu.be/UcoQaUwKqJA
View: https://youtu.be/oo4aCntvXXQ
YT reels:
View: https://youtu.be/2YdVut_UKoc
View: https://youtu.be/UcoQaUwKqJA
View: https://youtu.be/oo4aCntvXXQ
Quick release, strong arm, apparently can read defenses. He looks a rough around the edges and a bit doughy - just hope he leaves behind the party life.
It is over thinking it to second guess this pick. Dude fell to 15 and is the best available option in the single biggest weakness the Pats currently have. This is an absolute gift at 15.
Let's go!
Let's go!
Hell yeah, you or I could have thrown some touchdowns for Alabama this year, and they call me Tim Tebot because I can't throw.
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-best-at-everything-superlatives
BEST TIMING: MAC JONES
This is Jones’ calling card, as he thrives within the tempo of the offense. No one came close to Jones statistically on “in-rhythm throws.” His 97.6 passing grade, 13.4 yards per attempt and 152.5 passer rating on these plays led college football. Jones got the ball where it needed to go consistently for the Crimson Tide.
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/finessedbuckets/status/1374799983610884111?ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pff.com%2Fnews%2Fdraft-2021-nfl-draft-best-at-everything-superlatives
BEST VS. BLITZ: MAC JONES
Not that there was really any other way to slow down Alabama’s offense in 2020, but blitzing certainly didn’t work. Jones led college football in every single statistical category when blitzed last season: yards (1,365), touchdowns (18), yards per attempt (11.4) and completion percentage (77.5%). Maybe most impressively, Jones was only sacked three times on 124 blitzed dropbacks.
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/status/1363325190877413383?ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pff.com%2Fnews%2Fdraft-2021-nfl-draft-best-at-everything-superlatives
BEST TIMING: MAC JONES
This is Jones’ calling card, as he thrives within the tempo of the offense. No one came close to Jones statistically on “in-rhythm throws.” His 97.6 passing grade, 13.4 yards per attempt and 152.5 passer rating on these plays led college football. Jones got the ball where it needed to go consistently for the Crimson Tide.
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/finessedbuckets/status/1374799983610884111?ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pff.com%2Fnews%2Fdraft-2021-nfl-draft-best-at-everything-superlatives
BEST VS. BLITZ: MAC JONES
Not that there was really any other way to slow down Alabama’s offense in 2020, but blitzing certainly didn’t work. Jones led college football in every single statistical category when blitzed last season: yards (1,365), touchdowns (18), yards per attempt (11.4) and completion percentage (77.5%). Maybe most impressively, Jones was only sacked three times on 124 blitzed dropbacks.
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/status/1363325190877413383?ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pff.com%2Fnews%2Fdraft-2021-nfl-draft-best-at-everything-superlatives
Obviously BB liked him over Fields. A 3rd, even a 2nd to move up with Dallas would have been worth it if he valued Fields over Mac
This is where I am at. He might be good, in which case they are in great shape for a stretch.
So Jones gets his first action in a meaningless November game?
I think the current Pats offense is set up perfectly for someone like Jones.
A solid OL, get-out-of-jail cards in the 2 TEs Smith & Hunter, one of the best RB group in the league, and an OC who can scheme up plays for him.
Now let's get a young WR on day 2 to get more out of the slot.
A solid OL, get-out-of-jail cards in the 2 TEs Smith & Hunter, one of the best RB group in the league, and an OC who can scheme up plays for him.
Now let's get a young WR on day 2 to get more out of the slot.
He had almost four full seconds there...
I hope I am 100% wrong but I hate the pick. He shot puts his throws with no zip and had all world talent around him at Alabama, particularly on the OL and at receiver, which made his life very easy. I understand QB is a need but his ceiling IMO is a less accurate Chad Pennington (don't think Jones accuracy in college will translate to the pros, tighter windows means he can't loft balls in to his receivers).
Don’t like the pick. His teammates were an embarrassment of riches
he’s like Greg McElroy to me
Hope I’m wrong
he’s still better then Newton nonetheless
he’s like Greg McElroy to me
Hope I’m wrong
he’s still better then Newton nonetheless
The QB School has a 5-part series deep-diving into Mac's plays:
View: https://youtu.be/OgL0w0O5is8
View: https://youtu.be/o1pSOfdswRg
etc.
View: https://youtu.be/OgL0w0O5is8
View: https://youtu.be/o1pSOfdswRg
etc.
I love this pick. He was my second favorite QB in this draft after the best player now in the NFL.
Like the pick overall, but any weather concerns? Born in and went to high school in Jacksonville, and Alabama for college. Has he even played in temperatures below 60 or even seen snow? That's not something to be overlooked.
His teammates were not so subtle in praise of Jones when compared to Tua.
https://alabama.rivals.com/news/jaylen-waddle-devonta-smith-both-prefer-mac-jones-to-tua-tagovailoa
View: https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1367210773940826113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1367210773940826113%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Falabama.rivals.com%2Fnews%2Fjaylen-waddle-devonta-smith-both-prefer-mac-jones-to-tua-tagovailoa
There is zero reason to think that would be enough... it would probably have been closer to what the Giants gave up.
Hopefully the have him spend a year on building out his body and adding strength.
Dallas was not trading past the point where could get Parsons. Otherwise they would’ve just dropped to the Chicago pick for that package.
I like the pick because there was nothing on the board that really enticed me, it was either Mac or a trade down. He might be the 4th QB taken, but I think a solid argument can be made that Jones was BPA at that point, and that coupled with QB being their biggest need makes this a no brainer. Would've rather they had traded up for Fields, but this is a good consolation prize.
A guy can only play with the teammates he has. Burrow had Chase/Jefferson/Edwards-Helaire. Not going to fault someone for performing at a high level with great teammates. There’s a lot of talent in NE too.
Not worried about the body at all unless he is unwilling to work as a pro. Maybe there is some untapped upside tied to getting in better shape.
Not worried about the body at all unless he is unwilling to work as a pro. Maybe there is some untapped upside tied to getting in better shape.
You said the same thing in the game thread. There is a HUGE value difference from where the Pats were to where the Bears were. You can't take those trades in a vacuum. Unless you think the difference from 10 to 12 that cost a third but 10 to 15 was a first/fourth/fifth
Would this help? His nickname is The Joker and I don't think it's from the movie:
View: https://youtu.be/dV3AziKTBUo
Fuck it.
Based on his strengths...why not?
Did he have an embarrassment of riches in Alabama? Sure. But his ability to make timing throws is a plus, regardless of the talent around him. Yes. Its easier to time a dude pushing off his outside foot on a post with a bunch of space (like he saw at 'Bama).
The strength can still transfer to shorter option and timing routes at the NFL level with less separation.
ESPECIALLY with the TEs we have (and hopefully we can get a successful slot WR also).
I'm mad we didnt go for Fields. But...well, this is my line in the sand for, "In BB we trust." I've ALWAYS deferred to his knowledge. You fuck up one of the best picks youve ever had? When Fields is there for the taking?
Lots riding on this pick.
Based on his strengths...why not?
Did he have an embarrassment of riches in Alabama? Sure. But his ability to make timing throws is a plus, regardless of the talent around him. Yes. Its easier to time a dude pushing off his outside foot on a post with a bunch of space (like he saw at 'Bama).
The strength can still transfer to shorter option and timing routes at the NFL level with less separation.
ESPECIALLY with the TEs we have (and hopefully we can get a successful slot WR also).
I'm mad we didnt go for Fields. But...well, this is my line in the sand for, "In BB we trust." I've ALWAYS deferred to his knowledge. You fuck up one of the best picks youve ever had? When Fields is there for the taking?
Lots riding on this pick.
And people keep forgetting that he played AGAINST elite competition too.
vs. #5 Tex A&M: 20-27 (74.1%), 435 yds, 4 td, 1 int
vs. #9 Georgia: 24-32 (75.0%), 417 yds, 4 td, 1 int
vs. #7 Florida: 33-43 (76.7%), 418 yds, 5 td, 1 int
vs. #4 Notre Dame: 25-30 (83.3%), 297 yds, 4 td, 0 int
vs. #3 Ohio State: 36-45 (80.0%), 464 yds, 5 td, 0 int
Total: 5 g, 138-177 (78.0%), 2,031 yds, 11.5 y/a, 22 td, 3 int
Against some of the best teams in the country.
vs. #5 Tex A&M: 20-27 (74.1%), 435 yds, 4 td, 1 int
vs. #9 Georgia: 24-32 (75.0%), 417 yds, 4 td, 1 int
vs. #7 Florida: 33-43 (76.7%), 418 yds, 5 td, 1 int
vs. #4 Notre Dame: 25-30 (83.3%), 297 yds, 4 td, 0 int
vs. #3 Ohio State: 36-45 (80.0%), 464 yds, 5 td, 0 int
Total: 5 g, 138-177 (78.0%), 2,031 yds, 11.5 y/a, 22 td, 3 int
Against some of the best teams in the country.
Like Smith and Waddle, I liked him more than Tua. I'm not overly excited but if BB thinks this kid can play than I trust it. Almost every mock I did the last week the first 2 picks for the Pats were Mac Jones and Elijah Moore. Wouldn't hate if that came to fruition.