This is now: BB and the direction of the Patriots
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I was going to say "How's the Michigan guy going to do without knowing all of the opponents' signals in advance". Then I thought, "well this is the right place for him then."
This guy gets it.
It's easy to confuse Simms and Boomer Esiason, who was lefthanded (Edit: and likely still is) given they've both been on CBS pre-game together for like 20 years.
And they both have the same dry personality.
…though Boomer isn’t as bad. In another universe though Simms is a Director of Pharmacy.
Yeah, I know. I was riffing off the Phil Simms thing. Chris WAS a QB coach (I think) for BB.
First run on the draft simulator had Chicago trade 2 and 3 for 1 to get Williams, then AZ picks Maye at 2. Hilarious.
I am Jack's indifferent rage.
I wonder if things are starting to bubble under the surface in Foxboro. JC Jackson was benched to start last game for missing curfew and now is out for Sunday for personal reasons and Trent Brown is also not making the trip to Germany for personal reasons though also listed as an ankle injury but it would seem he could play through the ankle injury otherwise why list the personal reason just to show him up? Seems like JC is not a great team player and Trent has had his issues before so perhaps Bill is trying to reign in the team but either way not a great look for a franchise that lived by the term "Patriot Way" for the better part of two decades.
It's almost impossible for there to be a team of 53+ guys with egos and things NOT splinter and fracture. What's kept all that in check in years past has been the incredible group of veteran leaders - obviously headed by Tom Brady - who had all won a ridiculous amount and thus had tons of credibility.
Other than Slater, they don't really have that now. And he's just one guy.
Yes that's true. But even then, there were issues that had to be dealt with. And they were.
Every NFL locker room is chaotic, all the time. The Pats were fortunate to have such a deep and talented team that they could move on quickly from most anyone who was causing trouble and not miss a beat.
Culture and leadership matters, no doubt. But I suspect we attribute more to that during the great times than we should.
Culture and leadership matters, no doubt. But I suspect we attribute more to that during the great times than we should.
Almost everything they did worked, because they scored 30 points a week for over a decade. Whatever decision, personnel, coaching; drafting, didn’t matter. We found out that having Brady covered up pretty much any little that was created. Now they lose games and those little decisions or big decisions are magnified.
JC Jackson caused problems in San Diego. And Bill didn't try very hard to keep him here when he was a free agent.
A bit premature to speculate about Brown, IMO.
A bit premature to speculate about Brown, IMO.
Is it really speculating when he is listed as Out for personal reasons? He has played on 1 leg for most of the season though did miss last game, still think he makes the trip if not for the "personal reasons" designation. Otherwise why not keep that in house and just list him out for injury reasons?
If he was cleared to play by the team's medical staff and decided to refuse the trip there is no reason to keep anything in house. But I think there could be some info we are missing here; he may truly have a good reason for not making the trip that we are not aware of, in which case the personal designation is the right one to use as per NFL rules.
Is he still alive? He had to be in his 70s last time I listed to sports talk radio a good 15yrs ago.
Bill was asked if Brown was missing because of personal or injury and he said "both" so I'll leave it at that.
I mean... personal reasons covers a whole lot of stuff, jumping to the assumption that it is something negative that is keeping a guy who has been playing hurt all year out does him a disservice.
That is fair but then why list it, especially when you have another player being held out for personal reasons that we know are due to detrimental conduct. I'm trying to recall last time I saw someone listed out for both personal and health reasons and can't come up with any. Just seems odd if it is indeed personal and not for conduct detrimental.
I would guess it's about NFL injury listing rules. Maybe it's disciplinary, but Jackson didn't attend practice between being listed out for personal reasons and the team making the trip, Trent did, now that could just be that Trent is very good and they want to move forward with him this year and maybe re-sign him and Jackson isn't worth it, but... until something leaks I'll give Trent the BoTD
Brown is probably trying to shake down the Pats for a little more $$$. Hey, it’s worked before.
We’re talking about Trent Brown on a 2-7 team. I feel pretty confident that he’s a little banged up and a lot disinterested in traveling to Germany.
He already got his contract adjusted this season, can't do it twice.
And the adjustment was adding incentives for playing time. If he wants a little more $$$, sitting out isn't the way to go.
This is going to sound crazy, but his personal reasons are probably legit personal reasons.
Crazy? It’s more likely to be true than the theory that not only is it bullshit that he’s hurt and has a personal issue, but that his unavailability is - along with JCJ going MIA/fucking off, which is exactly what he did on his previous team - indicative of a locker room in disarray.
No.
It's not more likely because it would literally be against NFL rules for the Patriots to give him more money this year.
I phrased my post poorly, apologies. I was agreeing with you, or at least trying to, not the posts suggesting that he’s holding out. People are seeing shapes in the clouds that aren’t there on this one.
This kind of sums it up for me
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Ain't that the reality. They all suck.
That is why they are one of the worst teams in the NFL. Indy, Houston, Bears,(joke franchise) Jets, the Raiders,(!!!) GB, WFT, Rams(without a roster), and Tampa all have more wins. They are 2nd worst in the league in point differential.
They all stink. The GM stinks,(the biggest culprit, tbh) and defense without Judon and CG stinks, the offense stinks, the WRs fucking STINK, and Mac stinks.
The reporting on this is thin, but add this to the smoke around BB leaving.
https://theathletic.com/5054316/2023/11/11/nfl-news-panthers-bill-belichick-bijan-robinson/
Even Yahoo has knives out, wondering if it was Brady all along:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/as-the-patriot-way-dies-out-with-mcdaniels-belichick-and-garoppolo-we-see-it-was-always-the-brady-way-154935830.html
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/as-the-patriot-way-dies-out-with-mcdaniels-belichick-and-garoppolo-we-see-it-was-always-the-brady-way-154935830.html
If this team ends with somewhere between 2-4 wins I just can't see how they run it back. The posters saying they don't care about the record as long as BB gets the win total as a Pats coach, or that this is a blip on the screen and next year is a chance to "really" turn it around are voting with their hearts. This team is cooked and half of the organization are BB's crony appointments. Something has to change.
Years and years of this forum pretending to be better than other fan forums and better than the average Pats fan all nakedly exposed after a couple of bad seasons lmfao.
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