thehitcat said:Bass only I think because while he might want to deal Green the offers will either be not enough talent wise in Danny's eyes or they'll be pure salary dumps (Green and Wallace for a conditional 2nd in 2020 for example) and Danny won't want to do that. Also I think Humphries sticks unless he gets a good offer for him because I can see Danny signing him again for 1 more year at a similar salary to his current in order to hang onto the slot (which he doesn't need this summer but might at the end of 2014-15.)
nighthob said:As Boston can't possibly get far enough under the luxury tax line to sign James or Bosh why would they even be trying? They're a large market team, there's an advantage to maintaining a high payroll that's below the luxury tax line. Wallace isn't going anywhere and Green isn't either unless there's a real talent fit available. Humphries might go, but if he does it's likely as part of a deal to keep next year's payroll in the 60+ million range. Now Bass might go, but it's apparently because he has real value around the league.
The X Man Cometh said:
I don't see the point of shedding salary. What are we going to do with the cap space we get from "shedding" Wallace and Green? Sign Gordon Hayward?
I see that with a guy like Bass, who is more likely to go to a team that wants to add depth, rather than a team focused on cap and tax issues. Definitely disappointing if your team gives up something decent in a trade just to get a guy for a few months. The exception being if you get better terms to sign a guy afterwards (i.e. max contract rules, which clearly wouldn't apply to Bass).Devizier said:I think a decent quality expiring player is worth a lot less than one with a year remaining. With the year left, the acquiring team can work Bass into their system over the offseason without taking on the risk of signing him to another multi year contract. The time to deal him is now.
Well, if there were any chance of getting a completely clean cap then sure, you take your shot at James, Bosh or Anthony and hope for the best. But they won't be able to do that and you're going to have to max Hayward for even a chance at convincing Utah not to match, and maxing average/above average guys doesn't really work out very well.The X Man Cometh said:YES!
I don't see the point of shedding salary. What are we going to do with the cap space we get from "shedding" Wallace and Green? Sign Gordon Hayward?
FA is a terrible value for
Well, while not wild about the idea, I think Boston is going to make a run at Anthony this summer. If Anthony re-ups then the Rondo era is closing because that means that he'll be joining 'Melo in New York after he hits free agency.ivanvamp said:Ok. So…….what's your plan for the Celtics then? I think getting a top 3 player (HOPEFULLY!! - that has to be everyone here's wish) and then adding a superstar (there just aren't that many out there that are available) gives the C's three potential stars. You build around that.
But I'm cool if people don't want Kevin Love and his 25 points and 13 and a half rebounds a game. Just give me what your plan is.
Who knows? Olynyk if he gets into some serious weight lifting. Embiid (if the ping pong balls are very kind). Greg Monroe. Larry Sanders (out for the season after last night's injury). Some Croatian or Chinese guy you've never heard of. One way or the other, they have to find one.Like who though?
Probably not the thread for this question, but how does that work with the Knicks in for $90 million plus in salary next season (depending on whether Melo takes a paycut to come back)? Would it be a sign and trade? I'm sure there's a way, since he's supposedly lobbying Rondo to join him there, I just wasn't clear on how it actually can be done.nighthob said:Boston won't have a choice with Rondo. Either they convince Rondo and Anthony to team up here or it's likely that they're teaming up in New York.
I'm guessing it would take a third team willing to take on Chandler or Stoudamire and to send something nice back the Celtics' way. But that third team would probably have to have a dumb GM.Probably not the thread for this question, but how does that work with the Knicks in for $90 million plus in salary next season (depending on whether Melo takes a paycut to come back)? Would it be a sign and trade? I'm sure there's a way, since he's supposedly lobbying Rondo to join him there, I just wasn't clear on how it actually can be done.
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Totally - for some reason I was thinking this offseason. The Knicks could wait out one more year of basically the same crew with the promise of some aggressive shopping in the Rondo-Love FA year. Point well taken, Nighthob.Grin&MartyBarret said:Or, the Knicks can just sign Rondo outright when he reaches free agency.
BigSoxFan said:We'll see if the Knicks still have cap space to do that after next season. Right now, they don't have much on the books for 2015-2016 but they're going to face a lot of pressure this offseason to make changes and I could see them exchanging shorter deals of Amare, Bargnani, Chandler, etc. for guys on longer deals.
Devizier said:I could see the Knicks trying to offer the Amare-Hardaway-all of their remaining draft picks package for Rondo and Wallace. Depending on the picks, I'd give it consideration.
ivanvamp said:
I just looked here (http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft) and I don't see a single pick that the Knicks have for 2014. So are you thinking 2015 picks?
Rondo is a free agent in the summer of 2015 and the Knicks will be under the cap then.Major Offense said:Probably not the thread for this question, but how does that work with the Knicks in for $90 million plus in salary next season (depending on whether Melo takes a paycut to come back)? Would it be a sign and trade? I'm sure there's a way, since he's supposedly lobbying Rondo to join him there, I just wasn't clear on how it actually can be done.
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Or just get cut if he doesn't play well, since the future years are reportedly non-guaranteed.04101Seadog said:Best I've seen on the Babb deal is that it's quite close to what Johnson got, and when it's all said and done we will be about $600K under the cap. Basically gives him the ability to compete in camp or be trade bait.