Week 15 NFL Gamethread

azsoxpatsfan

Does not enjoy the go
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May 23, 2014
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The Bears are actively painful to watch. Usually I think total ineptitude is kinda funny, but they just suck to watch. I don’t care about the franchise at all and I want Nagy gone
 

JOBU

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Sep 22, 2021
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The rules about advancing muffed punts and non muffs after the kicking team has touched the punt don’t make any sense to me.
 

luckiestman

Son of the Harpy
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Jul 15, 2005
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Someone has to isolate the Levy “and now he’s dead” and put it as the backing audio for some fail videos.
 

mauf

Anderson Cooper × Mr. Rogers
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Jun 22, 2008
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Doesn’t have control of the ball. Incomplete.
 

luckiestman

Son of the Harpy
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Jul 15, 2005
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Vikings: Guys we are trying to give you this game.

Bears: What the hell? We don’t want it.
 

luckiestman

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Jul 15, 2005
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Crap, I changed the channel before this ... what happened?
Griese:…I have a prediction…….*long dramatic pause*

Levy: What is it???

Griese:..*very seriously* I think….3 teams… from the NFC West will make the playoffs

On air uncomfortable silence

Levy: you’ve had that one for a while.
 

E5 Yaz

polka king
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Apr 25, 2002
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Oregon
Griese:…I have a prediction…….*long dramatic pause*

Levy: What is it???

Griese:..*very seriously* I think….3 teams… from the NFC West will make the playoffs

On air uncomfortable silence

Levy: you’ve had that one for a while.
Gawd they need to jettison this crew after the season ... and I like Riddick
 

CFB_Rules

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Nov 29, 2016
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The rules about advancing muffed punts and non muffs after the kicking team has touched the punt don’t make any sense to me.
Once upon a time the defense wasn't allowed to advance fumbles either. The rule was changed specifically so that a fumble could be advanced.

However a muffed kick isn't a fumble, it's just a kick. Normally it's illegal for the kicking team to touch a kicked ball (the "penalty" for which is that is belongs to the receiving team at the spot of the touching). However it's no longer a violation if touched by the receiving team, which is why the kicking team gets to maintain possession. The ball is dead because it doesn't make sense to keep the ball alive when 99.9% of the time a kicking team touching the kick is going to mean the ball belongs to the receiving team, so there is no point in continuing the action.

You might say, "why not just kill the play only if the ball hasn't been touched by team B"? And I would say that 1) it would create some really screwed up penalty scenarios. 2) It would be a case of a ball becoming dead only if a team has committed an infraction, whereas in football typically infractions are dealt with after the play and have no bearing on how the play itself ends up (we don't kill a play after throwing a foul for holding, for example).

EDIT: Definitions are important in football. There are three "loose ball" situations that casual fans / announcers treat as the same, even though they can have dramatically different results in a game. Those are:
1) Fumbles
2) Loose kicks touched by B
3) Backward passes that have been muffed