Wes Welker suspended 4 games

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Couperin47 said:
It's probably safe to assume that nobody today has ever experienced anything resembling pure MDMA. Back in the mid 80's there were some grad students at MIT who were doing some really wonderful extracurricular work in their spare time. It was a white to light tan crystal that looked a lot like rock coke, but a bit more brittle. A #1 size capsule filled with this would take c. 45 mins to hit (always on an empty stomach, you could waste it on a full meal where the effects could be almost completely nullified) and the result would be 6-7 hours of jaw clenching (very speedy) flight that was so trippy, forget dancing, hell forget walking, the real issue was generally the floor continually dropping away beneath you. Oh yes, one other thing, your 2 heads were directly connected in a manner it's not possible to explain in any language with truly incredible results and that's pretty much all you could deal with the entire time. 
 
Or so I'm told... which is probably why whatever is available today has but a hint of the shit at best. It was not something sociable for use in public.
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The effect you described is extremely specific to individuals.
MDMA color varies depending on the recipe used. Because its an amphetamine class, it can range from white to brown to blue to yellow. The coloration is a reflection of small impurities, even in 90 percent pure stuff.  There is no such thing as 100 pure drug; or even 95 percent drug. 
 
DEA statistics are horseshit. The DEA busts generally target low-income neighborhoods/housing. The vast majority of MDMA is used by middle/upper class. I wouldn't be surprised if they busted several meth labs and then called the stuff "MDMA". They rarely get this right.
 
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I am pretty sure amphetamines are considered a PED, not a substance of abuse under NFL rules and it only takes one PED failure to get suspended.
 
EDIT: It depends on what kind of amphetamines. MDMA is considered a drug of abuse by the NFL (see footnote 1 on page 1 here: http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResources/files/PDFs/PlayerDevelopment/2010%20Drug%20Policy.pdf ), but Adderall is considered a PED. I think it's considered a masking agent, but I am not sure.
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Considering that Adderall is literally an amphetamine, in the way the word has been bandied around here (i.e. an alpha-methylphenethylamine), I'd be very surprised if it wasn't considered a PED.
 
It could work as a masking agent if you are on meth or stronger amphetamines (e.g. desoxyn). However, if its a hair test, you're screwed, and if its a urine/blood test, the drug is gone within three days -- tops.

I still have no idea how someone could fail a non-hair drug test because of amphetamines -- unless that person is an idiot of course.

 
 
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EricFeczko said:
The effect you described is extremely specific to individuals.
MDMA color varies depending on the recipe used. Because its an amphetamine class, it can range from white to brown to blue to yellow. The coloration is a reflection of small impurities, even in 90 percent pure stuff.  There is no such thing as 100 pure drug; or even 95 percent drug. 
 
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The guys at MIT must have been very consistent in their production, and, of course, nothing is ever 100% pure. I can testify that over a period of almost 5 years and in the company of literally hundreds of other guys, the effect was absolutely consistent for one and all and terrifically remarkable. Nobody had any complaints, well except that for many a certain member often being extremely sore the next day...
 
Or so I'm told... lol
 
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I can't imagine why the league would allow any drug changes to be retroactive, and I can't imagine why the NFLPA would even push for it.  Such a change would only benefit a few players (Welker and Gordon and maybe a few others), while a future change can potentially benefit all players.  Seems like a trivial matter to push for retroactive changes when there are more important issues at stake.  
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I operate recently under the assumption that the League office is a wholly owned subsidiary of Manning, Inc. Particularly when last night's game suggests the Rules Committee's offseason work may not have been sufficiently robust. Look at the Broncos first 4 games. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.
 
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Glazer is claiming that a new plan could be in place by Tuesday that would overturn Welker's suspension. 
 
 
Selfishly, I want his suspension to hold up, because I still like Wes and don't want him to get his brain scrambled by another concussion.
 
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dcmissle said:
I operate recently under the assumption that the League office is a wholly owned subsidiary of Manning, Inc. Particularly when last night's game suggests the Rules Committee's offseason work may not have been sufficiently robust. Look at the Broncos first 4 games. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.
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This.  The league has to make up for its temerity in announcing Welker's suspension so late.  You come at the king, you best not miss.  :)
 
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