What is next for BB?

[radsoxfan]

Cross posting…

Lots of Atl talk, and makes some sense.

But they have no QB and I can’t imagine Bill will coach more than 3 years or so.

Do they have some ready-made plan at quarterback? Trade for Fields? Is that even a lot better?

I can’t imagine he wants to go somewhere he could immediately be stuck in another round of Mac Jones/Bailey Zappe hell.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Cross posting…

Lots of Atl talk, and makes some sense.

But they have no QB and I can’t imagine Bill will coach more than 3 years or so.

Do they have some ready-made plan at quarterback? Trade for Fields? Is that even a lot better?

I can’t imagine he wants to go somewhere he could immediately be stuck in another round of Mac Jones/Bailey Zappe hell.

They can draft one in the Top 10, and sign a free agent such as Kirk Cousins or Baker Mayfield. IIRC, Belichick always liked Baker

 

[Cellar-Door]

They can draft one in the Top 10, and sign a free agent such as Kirk Cousins or Baker Mayfield. IIRC, Belichick always liked Baker

Speaking of Baker.... that job might be open in a week.
Florio mentioned today that there are a couple other jobs that could open:
1. DAL
2. PIT (smoke that Tomlin might want to take time off)
3. KC (Reid potential retiring)
4. TB

 

[snowmanny]

If Jets are off the table, I prefer DC. Used to root for them with my grandfather in the Gibbs days.

Of course, the Jets make a lot of sense - good defense, old but smart QB who can basically run the offense himself - except for being the Jets.

edit- I thought you rooted for the Jets to bug your grandfather...am I mis remembering that?

 

[CR67dream]

Of course, the Jets make a lot of sense - good defense, old but smart QB who can basically run the offense himself - except for being the Jets.

edit- I thought you rooted for the Jets to bug your grandfather...am I mis remembering that?

Grandmother.

 

[dirtynine]

I think it’s the Raiders. He’ll get top dollar, have the arrangement he wants, the best facilities. It would be an attractive destination for free-agent talent. He can record-chase without a fanbase breathing down his neck.

It’ll almost be a residency, like U2. Fans can make the pilgrimage out to see him.

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

Speaking of Baker.... that job might be open in a week.
Florio mentioned today that there are a couple other jobs that could open:
1. DAL
2. PIT (smoke that Tomlin might want to take time off)
3. KC (Reid potential retiring)
4. TB

KC…would be interesting to see how the fan base would react to that.

 

[ShaneTrot]

If I was BB, I would let Kraft pay me to visit all my coaching buddies around the league. See how other teams do it and then come back tanned rested and ready in 2025.

 

[ragnarok725]

I think it's going to be either DAL or PHI depending on which one gets bounced and fires their coach as a result. Most likely Philly.

 

[bosockboy]

I think it’s the Raiders. He’ll get top dollar, have the arrangement he wants, the best facilities. It would be an attractive destination for free-agent talent. He can record-chase without a fanbase breathing down his neck.

It’ll almost be a residency, like U2. Fans can make the pilgrimage out to see him.

No way that’s happening after the McDaniels Hindenburg.

 

[Justthetippett]

What are Bill's priorities/conditions?

- Win quickly (he's not going to coach more than 4 more years, at most)?
- Relatedly, have a QB or high pick, play in a shitty division, have talent on the roster and/or cap space?
- Go somewhere where he likes and/or has a previous relationship the owner/personnel team?
- Bring his sons and other staff?

I don't think geographical location matters.

I keep having an image of BB as Paul Newman in The Sting, putting his gang together.

 

[johnmd20]

View: https://twitter.com/NBCSportsBet/status/1745496498706481346


The actual odds. Interesting that "not a coach next year" is so high. But maybe Bill wants a break to recharge?

 

[Hoya81]

Foxborough High, to prove once and for all that that Johnny Foxboro can make that throw.

 

[cornwalls@6]

View: https://twitter.com/NBCSportsBet/status/1745496498706481346


The actual odds. Interesting that "not a coach next year" is so high. But maybe Bill wants a break to recharge?

Surprised at that too. Taking a year off at 72 seems like a big risk. He certainly seems vital and healthy, but he’s also entering the anything can happen years of his life. I strongly suspect he’s on the sidelines somewhere in 2024.

 

[Harry Hooper]

What are Bill's priorities/conditions?

- Win quickly (he's not going to coach more than 4 more years, at most)?
- Relatedly, have a QB or high pick, play in a shitty division, have talent on the roster and/or cap space?
- Go somewhere where he likes and/or has a previous relationship the owner/personnel team?
- Bring his sons and other staff?

I don't think geographical location matters.

I keep having an image of BB as Paul Newman in The Sting, putting his gang together.

If his sons are going with him, I can imagine BB planning on coaching for another 6-7 years. He may revise that downward (or be forced to) after a few seasons, though.

 

[EvilEmpire]

If Philly doesn't happen, I'd like to see Belichick take over the new expansion team, Albuquerque Aztecs the LA Chargers with a good, young quarterback.

 

[sezwho]

If Philly doesn't happen, I'd like to see Belichick take over the new expansion team, Albuquerque Aztecs the LA Chargers with a good, young quarterback.

Philly is the first name that’s made me think he could very easily get a ring there next year.

 

[CR67dream]

If Philly doesn't happen, I'd like to see Belichick take over the new expansion team, Albuquerque Aztecs the LA Chargers with a good, young quarterback.

I'd love to see it. The sleeveless hoodies would definitely rock. There's a slip just waiting for VIII Rings at the marina.

I'd also love to see it because they are the only team I can stomach from the AFC West, so I expect EE and I part ways there.

 

[johnmd20]

Philly is the first name that’s made me think he could very easily get a ring there next year.

Man, if there is a team that needs a defensive mind, it's Philly. But it would be odd for Philly to move on from Nicky for a guy who might coach for another 5-6 more years.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Bill is not going to go to a team that does not have an established QB when alternatives exist where they do. Schefter was pretty strongly hinting there are some playoff teams who will want BB, and I’d be surprised if he does not end up on one of them.

IMO it will be one of Dallas, Philly, or Buffalo.

 

[loshjott]

View: https://twitter.com/NBCSportsBet/status/1745496498706481346


The actual odds. Interesting that "not a coach next year" is so high. But maybe Bill wants a break to recharge?

I'd like to see those odds after this weekend if Philly or Dallas loses.

 

[jose melendez]

So go to the Falcons and have no QB again? I don't get it.

 

[rodderick]

Bill is not going to go to a team that does not have an established QB when alternatives exist where they do. Schefter was pretty strongly hinting there are some playoff teams who will want BB, and I’d be surprised if he does not end up on one of them.

IMO it will be one of Dallas, Philly, or Buffalo.

I honestly think a Bill/Josh team up in Buffalo could wreck the AFC.

 

[Harry Hooper]

I honestly think a Bill/Josh team up in Buffalo could wreck the AFC.

That's delicious.

 

[rodderick]

That's delicious.

For all of the "Bill without Brady" stuff, when he had THE guy at that position he got more out of it than anyone else. I still feel if he goes to a team with that piece in place and can delegate the offense to someone he trusts, he could contend for a title year 1. The fact that Allen has familiarity with the system and was awesome under Daboll makes the fit about as perfect as it gets.

 

[mwonow]

I'm with Ed H on teams, though like Koufax32, I'd put Buffalo at the top. Lots of talent, and apart from the Jets, who's had a better view of how Belichick the winner and snatcher of opponents' souls?

 

[Euclis20]

So go to the Falcons and have no QB again? I don't get it.

I've never understood Atlanta, and won't up until the moment they actually announce his hiring. What's the appeal for a 72 year coach to take over the reins of a young, mediocre team with no QB?

 

[BaseballJones]

For all of the "Bill without Brady" stuff, when he had THE guy at that position he got more out of it than anyone else.

Just wanted to hit on this point. I got a text from a non-Pats buddy today asking me if it was Brady or Belichick or both. I said:

Great coaches can win Super Bowls.
Great QBs can win Super Bowls.
But it takes a great coach *and* a great QB to win SIX Super Bowls.

 

[Pandemonium67]

He signs in Atlanta for $28.3 million.

But I'll bet he's intrigued by the Eagles. He already has worked out tweaks to use the Brotherly Shove all the way down the field -- 75 yard drive, 19 plays, 14:45.

Wherever he goes, I'll be rooting that he gets the wins record and at least one Lombardi.

 

[shawnrbu]

I've never understood Atlanta, and won't up until the moment they actually announce his hiring. What's the appeal for a 72 year coach to take over the reins of a young, mediocre team with no QB?

The only appeal is the division is winnable with how mediocre the NFC South is with none of the teams having a franchise QB. Other than that, it’s a dreadful destination and hope BB gets a better place to coach with more history.

 

[sodenj5]

I've never understood Atlanta, and won't up until the moment they actually announce his hiring. What's the appeal for a 72 year coach to take over the reins of a young, mediocre team with no QB?

They’re theoretically mediocre mainly because they’re poorly coached.

They have a ton of talent on offense at least. If Bill can work his magic on defense and they acquire any passable QB, they’re probably a playoff team.

I would say LA is a sneaky bad gig, especially for Bill. Anywhere he goes he’s going to want to win right away, not rebuild for a few years. LA has Herbert, which is a huge plus, but their roster on both sides is in major need of purging.

 

[Cellar-Door]

I've never understood Atlanta, and won't up until the moment they actually announce his hiring. What's the appeal for a 72 year coach to take over the reins of a young, mediocre team with no QB?

The appeal would be that it's a young talented team with no QB in by far the worst division in football. He would sign with some assurances from the GM on the future of the QB spot. I'd also say... ATL is well set up to get a QB... top 8 draft pick, one of the few places Cousins would consider (he lives in GA part-time as his wife's family is there), well positioned for a Fields trade if they go that way, etc.

 

[BusRaker]

It’s obviously a great fit for Belichick to chase Shula and a non Brady ring.

He has two already

 

[Ale Xander]

I’m going with Dallas. I think Jones will make the move if they don’t win the NFC.

BB might go to Navy post record, but he won’t leave the NFL with Shula barely ahead of him. And he’ll want to gain more space on Reid.

He could one up the other Bill if he goes there. I like that aspect. Plus he’d love to coach Parsons

 

[Euclis20]

They’re theoretically mediocre mainly because they’re poorly coached.

They have a ton of talent on offense at least. If Bill can work his magic on defense and they acquire any passable QB, they’re probably a playoff team.

I would say LA is a sneaky bad gig, especially for Bill. Anywhere he goes he’s going to want to win right away, not rebuild for a few years. LA has Herbert, which is a huge plus, but their roster on both sides is in major need of purging.

That's the argument, (for Atlanta), but it doesn't mean it's a good one. 26th in points scored this year, no matter the QB that just cannot be considered "a ton of talent on offense." They aren't the Niners, Eagles or Dolphins where basically any starting caliber QB can deliver an above average offense.

The stupid take on Belichick's last 4 years is that he can't win without Brady, but the measured take is that he (like every other coach) can't really win without at least an average quarterback. It doesn't make any sense to me that he'd go to a new team that didn't have an established QB, or at least a really promising QB prospect. Better jobs are open now, and in a week we might see 2-3 more (Buffalo, Philly, Dallas) that absolutely blow Atlanta out of the water.

 

[Ale Xander]

I'm with Ed H on teams, though like Koufax32, I'd put Buffalo at the top. Lots of talent, and apart from the Jets, who's had a better view of how Belichick the winner and snatcher of opponents' souls?

If he wins the SB in their next SB appearance, that would be pretty sweet. O-4 with Marv. 1-0 with Bb

 

[nattysez]

I've been saying Washington since October, but Jax also seems like a good fit. Pederson should be on the hot seat, that division is meh, Trevor could be incredible if he'd stop turning the ball over, and Khan won't have any issues with him bringing his kids in as coaches.

Oh, and Trent Baalke will probably do whatever Khan and BB tell him, so he won't be an impediment to BB coming in.

 

[Zincman]

Buffalo is RKK's worst nightmare.

 

[Kull]

From Kraft today: “It will be difficult to see him in a cutoff hoodie on the sideline but I’ll always continue to wish him continued success except when he’s playing our beloved Patriots”

Bill Belichick is not retiring, nor doing anything other than coaching an NFL team next season. This is what he does, and according to everyone around him, the desire to coach is a flame that still burns hot. The man is in the catbird seat, and won't have to settle for rebuild jobs like Atlanta.

 

[jose melendez]

Just wanted to hit on this point. I got a text from a non-Pats buddy today asking me if it was Brady or Belichick or both. I said:

Great coaches can win Super Bowls.
Great QBs can win Super Bowls.
But it takes a great coach *and* a great QB to win SIX Super Bowls.

This is exactly right. Idiots can and have one won. I think the only coach who has one three or more without having a superior QB is Gibbs.

 

[jose melendez]

I think there's a real chance that he goes to a team that gets bounced this weekend.

 

[mwonow]

I do, too. Let one of the bottom feeders hire Vrabel or Harbaugh, BB doesn't need to fly coach here

 

[brandonchristensen]

I hope he has a Brady-like post Pats career.

 

[NextBigThing8184]

Not sure Philly makes sense only because of Howie Roseman. Would the Eagles really fire or demote Roseman to give BB full control? Would BB go there without having full control?

Dallas, if McClay leaves, makes sense if Bb and Jerry can coexist.

The Bills would be a good fit as well if they’re willing to move on from Beane. I’d have to think Bill would enjoy the chance at beating Kraft twice a year and they have tons of pieces in place. Not sure they flop in the playoffs in a way which would open up a vacancy though.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

View: https://twitter.com/NBCSportsBet/status/1745496498706481346


The actual odds. Interesting that "not a coach next year" is so high. But maybe Bill wants a break to recharge?

These moved very fast.

Right now, not a coach of an NFL team is the favorite at +150.

Falcons +200.
Team not listed +600
Chargers +800
Commies +100
Panthers +2000
Giants +2500
Saints +3000
Jets +5000

I kind of like the team not listed bet. I think if one of the playoff teams gets bounced early, he becomes a very compelling pick that might nudge an owner into firing someone. I took it for $5.

 

[johnmd20]

These moved very fast.

Right now, not a coach of an NFL team is the favorite at +150.

Falcons +200.
Team not listed +600
Chargers +800
Commies +100
Panthers +2000
Giants +2500
Saints +3000
Jets +5000

I kind of like the team not listed bet. I think if one of the playoff teams gets bounced early, he becomes a very compelling pick that might nudge an owner into firing someone. I took it for $5.

Good little bet, I like it!

 

[joe dokes]

Dallas, if McClay leaves, makes sense if Bb and Jerry can coexist.

Jerry had Parcells; I suppose BB might learn something from him about the experience (though 20 years is a long time ago).

 

[Kull]

It's also possible that "buying the groceries" isn't as compelling a need if the team is already loaded and Bill is looking at a short window, say 3-5 years. Maybe with an annual "get out of jail free" clause if he doesn't like the way things are being handled.

 

[sezwho]

It's also possible that "buying the groceries" isn't as compelling a need if the team is already loaded and Bill is looking at a short window, say 3-5 years. Maybe with an annual "get out of jail free" clause if he doesn't like the way things are being handled.

That’s more realistic than I initially considered. You could/would start with an explicit plan agreed to for this year and a general structure for the next couple. Whoever the GM might be, and however strong their conviction, you could not possibly be dumb enough to get crosswise with this guy.

 

[nattysez]

Bleacher Report reports that BB's off the table in WAS. I have no idea how much stock to put into their reporting, but multiple reporters have now said he's not going to WAS.