Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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3. I think, barring a successful appeal of his $21,000 fine for unnecessary roughness for a hit to the head and neck of a defenseless receiver (Percy Harvin), Saints safety Rafael Bush played the NFC playoff game against Seattle for, well, let’s figure it out. (The NFL shouldn’t rescind or lower the fine, in my opinion; it’s the classic definition of a high hit to a defenseless receiver.) But here’s the balance sheet:
Payment for divisional game: $23,000.
—NFL fine: $21,000.
—Federal tax on $2,000 remaining: $792 (at 39.6 percent of Bush’s salary).
—FICA on $2,000: $153.
—Louisiana state tax on $2,000: $120 (at 6 percent of Bush’s salary).
Total fine, taxes: $22,065
Bush’s take-home pay for the game: $935.
Thus: Bush took home 4 percent of his paycheck for the game.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bush's salary for the game considered to be earned in the state of Washington, which has no income tax? Thus, the player would keep that $120 since it's not taxed by Louisiana.
 
I suspect Peter is not doing the greatest job at being an editor-in-chief if inaccuracies like this make it to publication.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bush's salary for the game considered to be earned in the state of Washington, which has no income tax? Thus, the player would keep that $120 since it's not taxed by Louisiana.
 
I suspect Peter is not doing the greatest job at being an editor-in-chief if inaccuracies like this make it to publication.
 
Would the income tax be levied against the gross (pre-fine)? (I am not a tax preparer; neither is Peter king. That's the point)
He could have made the same point just as effectively by saying, "After taxes, Bush probably took home less than 10% of his game check."  But no, he has to show us just how goddam smart he is. He's the kind of guy who thinks that a book must have been meticulously researched simply because it has a lot of footnotes.
 

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Wait, what? If his primary residence is in LA, he'd have to pay LA taxes on his salary for that game just like any week, right? Income tax is based on where you live. 
 
I work in New Hampshire every day, and for an employer that's based in New Hampshire, but I still pay Maine income taxes. 
 
What am I missing here?
 

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It's based on both.  I live in NH and work in MA, so I pay MA state taxes.  However, since I'm not a resident of MA, any days I work outside of MA I do not have to pay tax on.  They can't tax me for work-from-home days.
 
If his primary residence is in LA, then he's likely paying LA state tax.  Otherwise he doesn't owe them anything for that game.
 

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Including his federal obligation and any taxes owed to his home state, a Sox player might expect to pay 17 tax bills.
 
“Our accountant handles all of that, but my poor wife ends up signing everything, and it takes her forever,” said Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia. “In some states, like if we play in California four times in a certain season, it gets pretty complicated, from what I understand.”


 
With average salaries of $3.2 million in the four major sports, pro athletes are not likely to attract much sympathy for their tax headaches. But they are unquestionably singled out.


The State of Louisiana — a popular destination for sporting events, such as the most recent Super Bowl in New Orleans — has created a unique tax form exclusively for nonresident professional ­athletes.
 
 
Yet every NBA player who steps on the parquet floor at TD Garden must contribute to the Bay State’s coffers.
 
 
 

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Who needs an editor?
 
Knighton and linebacker Danny Travathan were Denver’s best defensive players against New England in a game that was not nearly as close as the 26-16 final indicated. Travathan’s speed behind a gap-proof defensive front helped wreck the Patriots passing game. He made an amazing play to ruin a New England drive in the second quarter with the Pats trying to narrow a 10-0 deficit, covering fullback James Develin out of the backfield on a route up the right side, then sprinting back as Julian Edelman caught a short cross, cutting his legs out after just a two-yard gain. He was around the ball all game. I can see Travathan in the film room today, studying Percy Harvin and Marshawn Lynch (Harvin certainly last season in Minnesota too, because of his limited play this year) and figuring out how to make plays around the line of scrimmage against one very speedy player and one very strong one. Travathan has shown all year long he can play both speed and power with equal skill.
 
 

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Peter channels his inner Yakov Smirnoff:
 
 
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing 38 secs
MMQB up soon. What a country: 6500 words, and there wasn't even a game.
 

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MMQB up soon. What a country: 6500 words, and there wasn't even a game.
It's amazing Peter was able to fill up his column. I mean there is absolutely nothing going on in the football world this time of year. I'll bet that ESPN.com is blank.

So, what are you folks doing next Sunday evening?
 

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Of course, 1/3 of his columns have 0 to do with football, anyway.
 

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Not even going to post the text, but he felt it necessary to give us a play-by-play of his leaving his apartment on the East Side of Manhattan™ to go pick up his media credential at some hotel nine blocks away.
 

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Not even going to post the text, but he felt it necessary to give us a play-by-play of his leaving his apartment on the East Side of Manhattan™ to go pick up his media credential at some hotel nine blocks away.
Peter King lives in Manhattan?
 

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Not even going to post the text, but he felt it necessary to give us a play-by-play of his leaving his apartment on the East Side of Manhattan™ to go pick up his media credential at some hotel nine blocks away.
 
Did he stop by any Starbucks on the way and give the barista some tips on how to make a latte?
 

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He was in a good mood, happy to be there and happy to be the Stanford Richard Sherman, not the Fifteen-Seconds-After-The-Game Richard Sherman.
 
 
What a condescending prick. 
 

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What a condescending prick. 
 
Yep.
 
k. Beernerdness: Had the good fortune to meet Jim Koch, the Sam Adams brewer, on the SI Now show the other day in New York. We talked craft beer, and he handed me one of his new ones. “Cold Snap.” A wheat beer, he said, with spices like coriander and orange peel. And I’m thinking, “Hmmm. Allagash White.” So I popped it open Friday night. A tad darker than Allagash, but the same nose and similar taste. Loved it. Coriander rocks, and I don’t even know what it is.
 
 
I'm sure Jim Koch is just fucking thrilled that you likened his newest beer to one of his competitors before you even put it to your lips.  
 
If this dunderhead had one ounce of his self-proclaimed beer knowledge, he'd know that coriander and orange peel are the two main ingredients of a witbier.  Allagash isn't treading new ground with this recipe; it's been around for hundreds of years.
 

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What a condescending prick, ch. n +1: 
 
Coffeenerdness: Super Bowl Week Visitors Coffee Guide Dept.: I have found the most consistent drink-making Starbucks in Manhattan, and believe me, I have tried all 9,000 of them. It’s the one on East 51st, between Park and Madison. Bunch of kids in there. They care.
 
 

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Yep.
 
 
I'm sure Jim Koch is just fucking thrilled that you likened his newest beer to one of his competitors before you even put it to your lips.  
 
If this dunderhead had one ounce of his self-proclaimed beer knowledge, he'd know that coriander and orange peel are the two main ingredients of a witbier.  Allagash isn't treading new ground with this recipe; it's been around for hundreds of years.
:Facepalm:
 
That is so King in a nutshell. He fancies himself to be a self proclaimed 'Beernerd' but when you scratch even the most surface of surfaces he reveals himself to know absolutely nothing about the subject and is much more at home with dropping names and cozying up to whatever CEO is willing to use him to hawk a product. And then he's too clumsy to even hawk it right. King is an epic lazy fail of a Royal Court Fop.
 

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One thing I think this week:
 
I'd like to watch a Packers-Patriots with L'il Wayne
 

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You guys are nuts.
 
That's free advertising that Sam Adams now makes a Witbier that's comparable to a highly regarded Witbier.
 

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I can't get over the "What a country" line. That's utter BS. He was making a self-congratulatory tweet of his ability to pull 6,500 words of artistry out of no material, but he needed a segue and he used one that made no sense because he didn't want to come out and say, "I'm such a pimp."
 
Unless he means by "What a country" something along the lines of, "I can't believe how much I get paid for this crap."
 

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In any other country, Peter King couldn't find anything to write about for 5 pages.
 
What an ignorant asshole!
 

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I believe that puerile profanity occasionally has a place.  Is fuckwad still a word?
 
King is writing about the Media Day circus. Ok. Fair enough, even though he's writing about the writers, not the players. Then we get this:
Come now. The Middlebury (Vermont) College magazine was here, to do a story on Stephen Hauschka, the Seattle kicker who attended the school. Thomas Jefferson, in white wig, was in the house. Where’s Waldo was here, photobombing every photo op and video standup he could, leaving them with a “Where’s Waldo?!”
 
 
Some Middlebury kid -- maybe one who is trying to makie it in the same business as you -- has the once in a lifetime opportunity to interview an alumnus who is about to play in the Super Bowl; that's EXACTLY the same as some attention-seeking jokers in costumes. Fuckwad.
 
And this....the profanity has not been invented yet:
And Slovenian TV reporter Neza Pavcic was here, attending her first Super Bowl, and she interviewed me not far from where Martin Brodeur regularly tends goal. (Or used to.) She was quite excited when I revealed—exclusively to her—that I once had lunch in Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia. And I was very glad that the people in Slovenia will see on the evening news tonight that the weather could be an issue in this year’s Super Bowl.
 
 
 
She interviewed ME.  I got her excited.
 
I found Seattle secondary coach Marquand Manuel and had 10 good minutes with him … but that’s only because no one else knew who he was. So we actually could talk football. An oasis! A football oasis! Talking matchups, and the intimidating factor of Kam Chancellor.
It’s the little triumphs on weirdo days like this that matter for me. That, plus Slovenia wanting to know how I enjoyed my drive through the country.
 
 
NOBODY knew who he was. NOBODY. Except ME. Peter Fucking King.
 
Does the Onion have a spaceship onto which they kidnap reporters and replace them withe over-the-top replicants?
 

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Some Middlebury kid -- maybe one who is trying to makie it in the same business as you -- has the once in a lifetime opportunity to interview an alumnus who is about to play in the Super Bowl; that's EXACTLY the same as some attention-seeking jokers in costumes. Fuckwad.
 
 
Hard to imagine that this is the same guy who used to drop a line about his daughter's high school sports team in his column every week.
 
Peter King:  sensitive to the hopes and dreams of young people who are related to him.
 

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I would love to see if King was even on the Slovenian broadcast.  I highly, HIGHLY, doubt that he was.  More likely, the reporter was making nice because nobody else would talk to her.
 
I spent nine days in Slovenia about five years ago; it's not some fucking backwater.  You know what they do a lot of there?  Skiing.  In fact,Slovenia is home to arguably the best women's downhill skier in the world. 
 
Given that the Winter Olympics start in about a week, and their team has already had a death threat, something tells me that the Super Bowl is not going to be a particularly big news story, and that one fat American sportswriter isn't going to be featured in that story at all.
 
I mean, he genuinely thinks that because he graced their nation, once, for lunch, several years ago, he will become the subject of a news story that Slovenians will take note of.  If that's not a perfect example of the Ugly American stereotype, I don't know what is.
 

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At least Thomas Jefferson wore a suit to media day.
 
 
Hahaha.
 
Since the other guy has a pencil and notebook, and King only has snacks and beverages (along with his Padres(?) sweatshirt and Twins hat), it looks like Pete was only *giving* interviews on Media Day.
 
 
And Neva Pavcic does not appear to be a football rube:
https://twitter.com/nezapavcic
 
given whats here, I bet she she spoke of football, and wonders why people are so obsessed about the weather for a game that's played in bad weather all the time.
 

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I would love to see if King was even on the Slovenian broadcast.  I highly, HIGHLY, doubt that he was.  More likely, the reporter was making nice because nobody else would talk to her.
 
 
He was.  King was the face of their 'Obesity in America' investigation. 
 

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He spoke for ten minutes with the secondary coach of the Seahawks.

Did any of that conversation, beyond the fact that it happened, make it into his writing?
 

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I found Seattle secondary coach Marquand Manuel and had 10 good minutes with him … but that’s only because no one else knew who he was. So we actually could talk football. An oasis! A football oasis!
The self-important manner in which many NFL talking heads (PK, Of course, being the worst offender) present the sport has really grated on me as I've aged. To the point where it's a major factor in my loss of interest. This might be the apex.
 

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Very good point.
 
He got unfettered access and the only story we got is that Peter King is the only one who knew who he was! Plus the insinuation Peter King was the only one on the entire field capable of speaking football with a football guy.
 

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You know why, right?
 
It's almost certainly because King probably didn't know anything about the guy, found himself standing next to him, read his name tag, and said "Oh, hey.  Wow.  Hi, uh, Charlie.  Peter King. So...How's it going?"
 
The coach could very well have imparted some information about the Seattle Secondary, but King probably didn't feel like jotting anything down because it didn't fit his preconceived ideas of what he was going to write about for the day.  He would have had to re-configure his entire mental outline, and that's too much work. 
 

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In all likelihood, he will shoehorn something from that conversation into the Monday column.  
 
Scenario A:  Peyton has a huge day.  "When I was given the chance to talk with Coach Manuel he agreed with my notion that Peyton would look to exploit..."
 
Scenario B:  Sherman and the secondary have a huge day.  "When I was given the chance to talk with Coach Manuel he agreed with my notion that the secondary would give Peyton and the receivers fits."
 

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The self-important manner in which many NFL talking heads (PK, Of course, being the worst offender) present the sport has really grated on me as I've aged. To the point where it's a major factor in my loss of interest. This might be the apex.
Excellent point. Really, this has to be read against his condescending lines about the non-legitimate journalists who were making a farce of media day. [SIZE= 14px]Each on its own is pretty awful, but in symbiotic conjunction they really drop a bead on the his sense of self, and it's a bit much.[/SIZE]

This post also got me thinking about Joe Gibbs's interview with Stephen Colbert on Tuesday night. Like, I know they play around a lot and do some weird stuff with the editing, but they got Joe Gibbs to say that he thought that the Super Bowl was the "greatest thing man can create" and I didn't get a sense it was in any way wry or ironic or an attempt at humor. This in an interview when he said that he devoted his time to two things now: his ministry and auto racing.

It's quite a bit and worth watching for a number of reasons, but yeah, suffice to say I agree that the whole "football is important vibe" really turns me off.

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That clip is even better if you think about the fact that Colbert is actually a Sunday School teacher when you watch his reactions.
 

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Answers like that are exactly what I'm driving at.
The NFL has credentialed so many people, and allowed so many D-list celebs to get in (and D-list wannabes), and encouraged so many babelicious types to attend, that Circus Day is now what Tuesday is at the Super Bowl. Its schticky. Its entertainment. Its what the NFL wants. You can find a little football, but not much.
Oh boo-fucking-hoo. Heaven forfend that some people aren't taking Super Bowl Media Day(tm) seriously. This is FOOTBALL, people! Let's not make a mockery of it by inviting people who are having "fun".

Fucking jerk.
 

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Answers like that are exactly what I'm driving at.
Oh boo-fucking-hoo. Heaven forfend that some people aren't taking Super Bowl Media Day(tm) seriously. This is FOOTBALL, people! Let's not make a mockery of it by inviting people who are having "fun".

Fucking jerk.
I'm psyched I got my response to your last post in before this one.

I mean, if a theory yields correct predictions, then it's science, yeah? What he said is almost exactly what I said he was being like, except more dickish.

Wow.
 

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Oh boo-fucking-hoo. Heaven forfend that some people aren't taking Super Bowl Media Day™ seriously. This is FOOTBALL, people! Let's not make a mockery of it by inviting people who are having "fun".
 
 
This is why Peter King loves being on the Football HoF committee. He gets to prove to you that he is a SERIOUS FOOTBALL GUY, who has SERIOUS FOOTBALL OPINIONS which are taken SERIOUSLY by other SERIOUS FOOTBALL MEN. 
 
And while football writers are the worst, in the last few decades, sports writers have such an inflated sense of self that it's sickening. Look at the way they reacted to the internet; blogs and message boards in particular. "What? You dare challenge me on a player? Before you start your infantile caterwauling, I will let you know, good sir, that I went to the University of Ohio and majored in journalism!"
 

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Armando Salguero from Miami herald was added to HoF voters panel. If you read him you'll know he knows little about football

Serious question: is MMQB been successful? I never read it. Ever. Grantland is a success. Is this?
 

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I'm not sure Grantland is successful. Every once in awhile I read that it's a money loser.

What that means, I'm not sure (other that they're probably in the red).
 

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It's quite a bit and worth watching for a number of reasons, but yeah, suffice to say I agree that the whole "football is important vibe" really turns me off.
 
 

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Yes. +1. Like.
 
This is exactly why this game needs to end with Richard Sherman picking off Manning and woofing in his face. Peter King and others like him will have a heart attack.
 

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In my 30 seasons covering the NFL, I can remember only three defensive performances that compare: the 1985 Bears’ stifling 46-10 rout of the Patriots, Baltimore’s 34-7 beat down of the Giants in Super Bowl XXXV and the Giants shocking New England—at that point the highest-scoring team in any single season—17-14 in Super Bowl XLII.
 
 
Hm.  One of those scores, and presumably the context of the losing score, looks quite different from the others. 
 
Mills’ stunt happened so fast it fit on a six-second Vine video, as you can see. Truthers are people who believe a massive coverup is at play and hides what really happened in Lower Manhattan that caused nearly 3,000 people to die in the collapse of the World Trade Center.
 
 
So, let me ask you, Peter:  why are you giving this asshole free press?  Two paragraphs and the vine video in your column?
 
Also:  thanks for letting everyone know what 9/11 was.   Can you tell me about the Holocaust now?  Pearl Harbor?
 
5. I think Jerome Bettis, 3.9 yards per carry and all, belongs. I believe he’s the best big back of the last 25 years. I saw he outrun Buc defensive backs once on a long run in Tampa; I saw him steamroll an in-his-prime Brian Urlacher—and I mean steamroll—in a snow bowl must-win game for the Steelers late in the Bus’ career, when he gained 100 yards in the second half against the league’s number two rush defense. He made the final 10 this year, and I hope he goes farther next year.
 
 
I don't know if Bettis belongs.  However, I do know that King makes a piss-poor defense of his HOF credentials. 
 
Step 1:  point out a really bad stat that suggests he doesn't belong.
Step 2: give a qualifier, "Big Back", that makes the scope of the argument deceptively small.   So he belongs because in a field of two, he was better than Natrone Means?
Step 3: Give a bunch of anecdotal stories that could be made about nearly any other starting running back in NFL history: "He outran good defenders once!  He ran through a really good LB once!  He had a lot of yards in a game I saw!"
 
4. New England (13-5). This is not just because I shared a podium with him Saturday night in Manhattan, but the Patriots need to sign free agent wide receiver Julian Edelman. Last five games of the season: 65 targets, 45 catches. When Tom Brady is throwing 13 passes a game to a guy, and a guy they won’t have to pay Calvin Johnson prices for, the message is simple for the Patriots: Stop going cheap on the receiver position.
 
 
What a delightful argument!  One that A) enhances King's position with a potential source; and B) makes no sense unless you ask "and take money from WHERE to do that"? 
 

 
Distance from New York Giants’ practice facility in East Rutherford, N.J. (where I covered Seahawks practice as a pool reporter Friday), to West 27th Street in Manhattan (where I hosted an event Friday evening): 8.4 miles.
Time it took me to drive the 8.4 miles Friday at 4:37 p.m.: 1 hour, 53 minutes.
 
 
A) HEY HE LIVES IN NEW YORK SIGHTING!
B) That's a long time, but it's really not noteworthy, especially given the shit that went down in Atlanta last week.  

 
b. I still cannot believe the Philip Seymour Hoffman news.
c. Dying to see Gravity.
 
 
Yes, you appear to be really preoccupied by his death.  Way to be respectful.
 
 
f. New York/New Jersey swallowed the Super Bowl. If you live on the east side of Manhattan, as I do, there was no indication anything different was up on Sunday.
 
 
holy shit. 
 

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g. Coffeenerdness: Gregory’s Coffee … brought a few media guys there for a quick booster during the week in Manhattan. Very good lattes.
 
 
HE IS IN MANHATTAN!!!!
 
h. Beernerdness: Guiness is best served colder than the Irish like it. I know that because at a Super Bowl event Thursday night in the city, the bartender told us they were serving at normal American beer temperatures. Not trying to be revolutionary, but it’s just better colder.
 
 
No, it is not.