Wild Card Weekend game thread (non-Pats)

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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We’re all going to pretend the whistle didn’t blow?

I mean, #25 on the Raiders gave up on the play. He probably had no play on the ball, but he certainly could’ve put a hit on the receiver.

Probably the best thing eye in the sky could do, but damn, I’d be salty if I were a Raiders fan.
The inconsistency between the shitty calls they don’t correct and the ones they do is getting tougher to rationalize..

In a who would get screwed more sense, that was the right call but they are just making it up as they go along and NBC seems fine with carrying their water.
 

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Who else does NBC have that worked color in an NFL booth this season? That's the issue. (At least Brees has color experience this year *and* was part of NBC's NFL studio show, which by recent standards of the first Saturday Wild Card game makes him very qualified in relative terms.)
Tirico is great and IMO Brees is above average so far. He’s too new to have a schtick so he does actual analysis when he speaks.
 

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Came back here to check if anybody else noticed the refs blew the play dead then pretended that they didn't lol.
Egregious disregard for the rules, even if it worked out.

Reason you have to hold fast to calling that dead is the other players have to be able to count on the whistle reigning supreme. If you’re a DB, what the hell do you do? Keep playing on the off chance they disregard it?
 

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So, they can’t have a touchdown “by rule” on that last touchdown, and the NFL has replay so things like this won’t happen. And it happened anyway.

Okay.
 

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brees, the color commentator, said he heard the whistle, but didn't say a thing about it for ten minutes? yeah, he's great at this.
 

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Whistle was late enough. Probably not technically the correct call but I think the right call.

But why in earth did he blow the whistle? Burrow wasn't that close. Inexcusable.
 

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That 3rd-and-5 timeout was late and should not have been granted. Not as egregious a mistake as the whistle on the other end, but similar in impact on the game.
 

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The whistle was much later in the replay than what I thought I heard when watching live. It was almost in the receiver’s hand.

Being charitable maybe the refs were discussing whether or not the whistle was late and determined it was not. That would be wrong but maybe not reviewable?
 

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Whistle was late enough. Probably not technically the correct call but I think the right call.

But why in earth did he blow the whistle? Burrow wasn't that close. Inexcusable.
It’s an egregious fuck-up on the field, but that happens. I don’t have a problem with them intervening in a less-than-transparent way to allow to happen what would likely have happened anyway. I do have reservations about it in a case where it may cause a player in the future to disregard a whistle. It’s a helluva dilemma.
 

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The whistle was much later in the replay than what I thought I heard when watching live. It was almost in the receiver’s hand.

Being charitable maybe the refs were discussing whether or not the whistle was late and determined it was not. That would be wrong but maybe not reviewable?
I haven’t watched it again, but #25 was a step or two away from the receiver, so if the whistle was as late as you say, it didn’t make a difference.
 

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I haven’t watched it again, but #25 was a step or two away from the receiver, so if the whistle was as late as you say, it didn’t make a difference.
It looked like the Raiders defenders gave up before the ball got there. But maybe they gave up because they knew they had no chance, and not due to the whistle. But man it looks suspect.
 

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Who else does NBC have that worked color in an NFL booth this season? That's the issue. (At least Brees has color experience this year *and* was part of NBC's NFL studio show, which by recent standards of the first Saturday Wild Card game makes him very qualified in relative terms.)
I'm not arguing with you as he may be the best option in this situation. But the problem is that he was their best option in this situation.
 

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I haven’t watched it again, but #25 was a step or two away from the receiver, so if the whistle was as late as you say, it didn’t make a difference.
Getting Zapruder on it it looks like the receiver is about nine yards deep in the end zone and the whistle starts when the ball is 5 or 6 yards deep.
 

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It looked like the Raiders defenders gave up before the ball got there. But maybe they gave up because they knew they had no chance, and not due to the whistle. But man it looks suspect.
The whistle was blown with the ball a few feet from the receiver's hands. It didn't make a difference to the play. But if the play is dead when the whistle blows, it should not be a TD.

But refereeing incompetence just comes with the territory in the NFL. It's clearly not driving fans away, so they'll do nothing to fix it.
 

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Certainly a lose - lose for the refs. Bengals know they were in the end zone. Raiders know the rules say it should have been a dead ball
 

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I'm not arguing with you as he may be the best option in this situation. But the problem is that he was their best option in this situation.
They'd have to bring in somebody on a one game contract. They only need one in-house NFL color analyst for the regular season, and he's working in KC tomorrow night. Brees is fine, though not remarkable, on the Notre Dame games. It's the logical move.
 

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I hope Edelman gets a shot at a commentary gig. He's money in front of a camera / microphone
 

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I bet what happened is they knew there was an inadvertent whistle but then conferenced to discuss whether it was on a loose ball or after the catch and decided it was not a loose ball. If so Boger could have explained it. I assume that wouldn’t be reviewable.

That actually would have been two mistakes but maybe they just made a decision it was close enough.
 
They'd have to bring in somebody on a one game contract. They only need one in-house NFL color analyst for the regular season, and he's working in KC tomorrow night. Brees is fine, though not remarkable, on the Notre Dame games. It's the logical move.
Yeah, I'm struggling to see what else @glennhoffmania would have NBC do. (Hire a guy who worked for Fox or CBS this season? That's a non-starter, surely.)
 

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The whistle was blown with the ball a few feet from the receiver's hands. It didn't make a difference to the play. But if the play is dead when the whistle blows, it should not be a TD.

But refereeing incompetence just comes with the territory in the NFL. It's clearly not driving fans away, so they'll do nothing to fix it.
I know. But visually it's striking and appears the Raiders quit on the play. But I think it was because they couldn't stop the pass.
 

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Yeah, I'm struggling to see what else @glennhoffmania would have NBC do. (Hire a guy who worked for Fox or CBS this season? That's a non-starter, surely.)
Nothing. Given the circumstances they didn't have good options. I'm saying that one of the big four networks having only Dungy and Brees to pick from is a problem. Maybe they should have more competent studio analysts. Or since they knew this game was coming up maybe they get a college guy up to speed. Given the state of an announcing this isn't surprising. But my point was that, in general, it's always amazing that the networks can't get better quality analysts.
 

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I'm not arguing with you as he may be the best option in this situation. But the problem is that he was their best option in this situation.
Dude, NBC literally has one game a week for a span of the entire season. Tirico is also awesome.

Why is this hard to understand?