Wild Card Weekend Game Thread

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Neither team deserves any sympathy. Shazier tilted the game from very chippy to ugly. He is an asshole.

Big winner tonight, as usual, the Denver fucking Broncos. I think Ben's right shoulder is probably fucked. When he dodged Tracy's question, that may have been the death warrant for next week.
Yeah, Denver has a had a horseshoe all year. Everything seems to be breaking for them -- including the Patriots' injuries and end of season swoon. Just as they've gotten several breaks late in games. Hopefully the Patriots will flip the script on them, but you need breaks to win the championship and the Broncos are really getting them this year.
 

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Also, as alluring as it is to wishcast the entire playoffs such that the Patriots never have to play a tough opponent, I'm fine with having to beat the (Maclin-less, FWIW) Chiefs and then the Broncos. They're the other two of the best three teams in the conference. Can't really complain about it.
 

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Of course he was down. That doesn't change what the player did. My point was just how insanely stupid the Bengels are. The player makes a huge interception that should win his team the game, and instead he runs it for a TD, to the wrong endzone. While it didn't count, because he was down, the player was still insanely stupid to run to the wrong endzone. Even dumber than that Marlon McCree play in the Pats - SD game back in 2006.
BUT IF HE WAS DOWN WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF HE RUNS IT BACK THE WRONG WAY?

He wasn't running towards "wrong end zone" he was celebrating.
 

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The fumble was bad but it's not like you can just sit on it there. The FG wasn't a gimmie (45 yards, right?), if they miss Pitt has excellent field position down only 1.

Besides, the true origin of this was the weird play call on the 2 pt conversion.
 

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I mean, it was an intentional strip so it's not the most egregious fumble of all time. It's not like he just dropped it.

But I don't get why they're risking anything there. FG probably wins it and they're already well in range.
 

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Yeah, Denver has a had a horseshoe all year. Everything seems to be breaking for them -- including the Patriots' injuries and end of season swoon. Just as they've gotten several breaks late in games. Hopefully the Patriots will flip the script on them, but you need breaks to win the championship and the Broncos are really getting them this year.
No way is Denver winning the SB this year. The NFC winner would eat them alive.
 

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Yeah, Denver has a had a horseshoe all year. Everything seems to be breaking for them -- including the Patriots' injuries and end of season swoon. Just as they've gotten several breaks late in games. Hopefully the Patriots will flip the script on them, but you need breaks to win the championship and the Broncos are really getting them this year.
As long as the opponent is not by some miracle the Vikings or Redskins, I give Denver almost no chance to win the Super Bowl.
 

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Manning losing to this skeleton steeler squad is going to pass the Rahim Moore game for number 1 on the top ten one and done list if Brown is out. Thought the ceiling was #2 before but this will be the topper
 

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I know Ben dodged the question, but how seriously can his injury be if he was back out there at the end? He wasn't throwing down field, but he did throw so I'll assume it's nothing broken right?
 

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The fumble was bad but it's not like you can just sit on it there. The FG wasn't a gimmie (45 yards, right?), if they miss Pitt has excellent field position down only 1.

Besides, the true origin of this was the weird play call on the 2 pt conversion.
The only positive for Marvin Lewis is that no one is going to hire Jackson after that play call.
 

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Not to mention the Bungles 2PC play which was dangerous because of the 2 point defensive rule. I bet Marvin Lewis doesn't even know about that rule.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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I mean, it was an intentional strip so it's not the most egregious fumble of all time. It's not like he just dropped it.

But I don't get why they're risking anything there. FG probably wins it and they're already well in range.
Three time outs for Pittsburgh, and 1:50 or so on the clock, so even with three kneel downs and a FG, they still have about 1:35 or so to try to win, and if you miss the filed goal, they have a short field down by 1 with lots of time. Whereas a first down wins the game.
 

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Why was Joey Porter even allowed on the field? What the fuck? When are coaches EVER allowed on the field during the game?
Coaches are allowed to come on the field when their players are a victim of an attempted murder.
 

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I know Ben dodged the question, but how seriously can his injury be if he was back out there at the end? He wasn't throwing down field, but he did throw so I'll assume it's nothing broken right?
The final toss to Brown was overthrown, but it was 20 yards downfield and had some mustard on it.
 

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I wish the NFL would open up their refs for interviews after a game like this.

I have not one bit of a problem with the Jones penalty, seeing how he made (largely unintentional) contact with a ref and was going after Joey Porter. They had probably told everyone to calm the fuck down about 700 times in the previous 90 seconds since Burfict took one of the dirtiest shots you will ever see in the 2015 NFL on Pittsburgh's best player. Everyone wanted to fight about it and you knew the refs were going to throw a flag on the first person that actually acted on that desire. Fucking Pacman should have known better, he is a ten year vet and should have known that the refs were going to do whatever it took to keep some semblance of control over the situation.

Mike Tomlin is not a great coach, but he had much better control of his players than Marvin Lewis and that is what won the game for his team.
 

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Three time outs for Pittsburgh, and 1:50 or so on the clock, so even with three kneel downs and a FG, they still have about 1:35 or so to try to win, and if you miss the filed goal, they have a short field down by 1 with lots of time. Whereas a first down wins the game.
I know you have to run it, I just mean that protecting the ball has to be the bigger priority there for Hill instead of trying to push that extra yard before going down.
 

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Manning losing to this skeleton steeler squad is going to pass the Rahim Moore game for number 1 on the top ten one and done list if Brown is out. Thought the ceiling was #2 before but this will be the topper
Yeah, for all the hand-wringing (myself included!) Denver is still a big ? on offense, and the Steelers have defended the run pretty well.
 

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ESPN ref expert is saying the Shazier hit was a PF for hitting with the crown of the helmet, defenseless receiver or not.
That sounds right, per the NFL's website (haven't check the official rulebook though):
What the rule changes: A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul.
 

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Hard to rip the Bengals for the playcalling on the Hill fumble. Player has to know enough not to fight for extra yards through contact though
 

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Three time outs for Pittsburgh, and 1:50 or so on the clock, so even with three kneel downs and a FG, they still have about 1:35 or so to try to win, and if you miss the filed goal, they have a short field down by 1 with lots of time. Whereas a first down wins the game.
Yeah, and they're playing with a ninth string QB or a guy with no arm. I think that's enough to stay conservative.
 

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You guys are letting Nantz and Simms off easy here. We have had to sit through some pretty god awful and stupid game commentary but what they did tonight was disgusting. Between the dirty hits on both sides and the verbal shit shower from those two fuck faces, I need a bath.
 

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Denver has had the luckiest season since the Jets season in 2009 or 2010 that was filled with crazy shit that helped them out, including winning a game because Suh shanked an XP.

But what really matters is how the Pats play. If they can't beat KC at home with KC having one offensive weapon they don't deserve to be SB champions. I think it will be a great challenge for the offense in particular, and I am excited to see how they respond. If Brady and Belichick have to put Peyton down once and for all in Denver, so be it.
 

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I know you have to run it, I just mean that protecting the ball has to be the bigger priority there for Hill instead of trying to push that extra yard before going down.
Yeah, he was trying to get that extra yard. Hard to coach that out of guys, I guess -- Philly did against the Patriots earlier this year too. It happens more than it seems it should.
 

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You guys are letting Nantz and Simms off easy here. We have had to sit through some pretty god awful and stupid game commentary but what they did tonight was disgusting. Between the dirty hits on both sides and the verbal shit shower from those two fuck faces, I need a bath.
I thought they had two plays in the second quarter that were their best work of the season
 

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Welp - this was pretty epic. And by epic, I mean in the class of this one:

...and this one:
 

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Manning losing to this skeleton steeler squad is going to pass the Rahim Moore game for number 1 on the top ten one and done list if Brown is out. Thought the ceiling was #2 before but this will be the topper
DEN isn't going to lose to this PIT team thanks to their D, running game and the fact the Steelers will be down their top WR, top 2 RB and Ben will be severely limited. Of course the narrative will be Peyton's return to greatness after the throws for 150yds 1TD and completes 55% of his passes.
 

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Can someone clear up what exactly was so bad about Nantz and Simms tonight? I only saw the last couple drives. I believe they were awful and I heard them try and blame Burfict on the sack that knocked Ben out, but what else in particular was so bad?
 

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Why was AJ Green on the sideline for the 2 pt attempt? Best offensive weapon not required for what was an incredibly important play? Use one of your time outs if you need to to regroup and get the right play with the right personnel.

Marvin Lewis needs to go away.
 

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Denver has had the luckiest season since the Jets season in 2009 or 2010 that was filled with crazy shit that helped them out, including winning a game because Suh shanked an XP.

But what really matters is how the Pats play. If they can't beat KC at home with KC having one offensive weapon they don't deserve to be SB champions. I think it will be a great challenge for the offense in particular, and I am excited to see how they respond. If Brady and Belichick have to put Peyton down once and for all in Denver, so be it.
Was never about the round 2 opponent for me. Having to go to Denver has always been the problem.. Pats were easily the better team in Denver last time and lost because flagflagflagflag. Weird shit happens there and the world is somehow rallying around Fathead McTeabag.
 

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I know Ben dodged the question, but how seriously can his injury be if he was back out there at the end? He wasn't throwing down field, but he did throw so I'll assume it's nothing broken right?
He was throwing dinks and dunks. Note that when he came back out after the injury, he was not throwing or warning up. I think he was done for the night. Then Landry Jones shat himself, so they went back to Ben. If he is seriously impaired, the Broncos will jam and blanket those receivers, completely shut down the ground game, and that will be that on offense. In other words, the Broncos could be playing the functional equivalent of peyton before he was pulled this year.

Landry Jones playing a playoff game in Denver is a complete nonstarter.
 

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No way is Denver winning the SB this year. The NFC winner would eat them alive.
If Denver makes the SB, the NFC winner will probably have their team plane crash. This is starting to remind me of Bettis' SB season and it's really pissing me off.