Wild Card Weekend Game Thread

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Punts and field goals might be an issue all day. Makes Vinatieri's kicks against the Titans even more impressive
 

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Drewdawg--not only are coaches not allowed on field during timeouts, but "insulting abusive, or threatening language directed at a player" is expressly prohibited, and subject to a 15-yard penalty.
 

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That's certainly true of Michaels---I have always seen Nantz as the successor to the Brent Musberger "league PR schill" crown, though. Am I forgetting some examples otherwise (quite possible)?
Musberger is definitely a shill. Both Nantz and Michaels are a good deal better.

I'm not a giant fan of either. But Michaels, being of the ABC family tree, has a bit of the Cosell aura and approach in that he sees the larger story in his coverage. Nantz isn't in the same league really – but in his Masters coverage for instance he's always tried to convey a sense of professionalism and class.

I think both of them are harmed, perhaps Michaels more than Nantz, when viewers question whether they are, in effect, calling games fairly.
 

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Drewdawg--not only are coaches not allowed on field during timeouts, but "insulting abusive, or threatening language directed at a player" is expressly prohibited, and subject to a 15-yard penalty.
Joey Porter is the linebackers coach for the Steelers---there is absolutely no way he should be on the field around an injury to a WR.

He walked away from Brown as he was being brought off the field and initiated a confrontation with several Bengals players. It is simply inarguable that he started the conflict, and that (by the rules) he deserves a penalty. I think it's debateable whether he should get two (for the initiation, and matching with Jones for whatever he said and Jones did). But the idea that there's even a shred of a doubt about Porter getting a penalty is just inconceivable to me.
 

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Joey Porter is the linebackers coach for the Steelers---there is absolutely no way he should be on the field around an injury to a WR.

He walked away from Brown as he was being brought off the field and initiated a confrontation with several Bengals players. It is simply inarguable that he started the conflict, and that (by the rules) he deserves a penalty. I think it's debateable whether he should get two (for the initiation, and matching with Jones for whatever he said and Jones did). But the idea that there's even a shred of a doubt about Porter getting a penalty is just inconceivable to me.
The refs missed it in the confusion; that much is clear. Yeah, he'll get fined ... big deal. At the least, he and Jones should have received offsetting penalties
 

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The refs missed it in the confusion; that much is clear. Yeah, he'll get fined ... big deal. At the least, he and Jones should have received offsetting penalties
Right, but let's keep the pressure on the NFL here. They have this whole replay system, with 'review from NY' and they missed something that many of us saw live on TV?

It's indefensible.
 

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Okay. Noted. How about with injury?

Also, did you hear Porter say anything or are we relying on Pacman Jones?
Serious question: did you watch the game or the replays? You seem to be arguing from news reports.

Porter visibly and clearly walked away from Brown to confront a set of Bengals players, and you could see him speaking to them. This is already a penalty by the rules. Even if we disbelieve what Jones said, your argument is still totally wrong. What exactly is the case that Porter shouldn't get a penalty here?