You are so right! Thanks, added.Aaron Cook has a spot in that rotation too.
Because we all forgot him.Nobody has mentioned Tony Perez
Plus, he had two stints, ~1300 ABs, and 73 HR with the RS. It wasn't like he was here for part of a season or something.Mike Stanley was a pretty important Sox for a couple of reasons:
1. He was the protection behind Mo Vaughn.
2. He was traded to the Yankees in exchange for Tony Armas Jr., who was flipped three months later for a skinny right handed named Pedro Martinez.
So he’s a memorable dude. Or should be.
As others said he was probably on the Sox too long. How about his predecessor… Bob Watson?Nobody has mentioned Tony Perez
That's a good one!As others said he was probably on the Sox too long. How about his predecessor… Bob Watson?
Was LaRoche the dad whose kid got kicked out of the dugout in Chicago and had Sale all bullshit?Adam LaRoche? I think we traded for him then traded him away almost immediately after
edit: yup, traded him away for casey kotchman (another name for this thread!). Kotcham OPS'd .572 down the stretch in 95 PA and LaRoche had a .957 OPS for the Braves in August and September
I forgot about Lemke. I forget the year, I'll look it up.Mark Lemke and Bret Saberhagan
Nobody has mentioned Tony Perez
Imo, He's not forgotten. 80-82 right?? Maybe 83? No?
Watertown. It’s not an insignificant difference.The Pride of Waterbury, Rico Brogna.
Didn't Dempster deliberately throw at A-Roid in August of 2013? LOL.You are so right! Thanks, added.
The Swan Song team (players who ended their careers in a SINGLE year on the Sox, after playing the rest elsewhere) now has a four-man rotation (Seaver, Dempster, Cook, Portugal) and a three-man pen (Mantei, Jenks, Hanrahan). We've got a good starting infield (Olerud, Phillips, Clayton, Gaetti with Javy Lopez behind the dish) and some depth. We could really use some better outfielders though! Here's what I've got, thanks to BornToRun, Rovin Romine, JMOH and simplicio for suggestions:
C: Javy Lopez
1B: John Olerud
2B: Brandon Phillips
SS: Royce Clayton
3B: Gary Gaetti
LF: Benny Agbayani
CF: Herm Winningham
RF: Scott Podsednik
DH: Jeremy Giambi
INF: Mark Lemke, Craig Grebeck, Sean Casey, Ryan Shealy, Sean Berry
SP: Tom Seaver, Ryan Dempster, Aaron Cook, Mark Portugal
RP: Matt Mantei, Bobby Jenks, Joel Hanrahan
MGR: Bobby Valentine
One of the worst Red Sox trades of all time. Speaking of forgotten Sox..... They traded Jamie Moyer for Bragg. And after 97 they traded Aaron Sele for Jim Leyritz. They only helped the Mariners win 116 games. Jamie Moyer was one of the most concistent steady and good pitches of the past 30 years. And Sele was good also.Watertown. It’s not an insignificant difference.
Edit: I believe Darren Bragg was from Watertown, too. Must be something in the…
And what about Jamie Moyer on that staff. Bad trade for Darren Bragg. You never trade a lefthanded good pitcher for an ok outfielder.Didn't Dempster deliberately through at A-Roid in August of 2013? LOL.
He also decided to sit out 2014 instead of collect a contract off the Redsox knowing he was pretty much done.Didn't Dempster deliberately through at A-Roid in August of 2013? LOL.
Or a DH (Tudor for Easler, to bring that up again). Supposedly Houk disliked Tudor.And what about Jamie Moyer on that staff. Bad trade for Darren Bragg. You never trade a lefthanded good pitcher for an ok outfielder.
That was a surprising ,fun, lightning in a bottle team.I started following the Red Sox in 1995, a year in which they won the AL East by trotting out over 50 different guys. I thought I remembered everything about that team, from Mookie’s uncle Terry Shumpert, to Wes (not Wilt) Chamberlain, to guys like Joel Johnston, Brian Bark, Brian Looney, and Tim Van Egmond.
I just took a look at their roster and saw a name that rang zero bells.
Chris James. Eight different teams in ten years. Was having a fine season in 1995 for the Royals (117 OPS+) until he was picked up by the Red Sox in August. He did absolutely nothing down the stretch, going 4 for 24 in limited action. He never played a MLB game again.
Bill Lee said McCarver helped him so much with his game. He said he was the smartest catcher he had met.The one and only Tim McCarver.
Yes we can't forget about that blunder.Or a DH (Tudor for Easler, to bring that up again). Supposedly Houk disliked Tudor.
In fact, Ralph Houk himself. A forgettable 4 years.
Forgot all about this one.Heathcliff Slocomb. Maybe Duke's best trade, him for Varitek and Lowe!
It really was, especially after the drudgery of the 1992-1994 teams and the strike in 1994. John Valentin (8.3 bWAR) had a strong case for AL MVP that year and is probably the most underrated Red Sox player of the last 30 years. Not "forgotten" per se, but deeply unappreciated. 30.5 bWAR from 1993-1998 and in 4 postseason series for the Sox he gave us .347./.407./,639, including 3 homers and 12 RBI in the 1999 ALDS against Cleveland.That was a surprising ,fun, lightning in a bottle team.
Gold Glove winners!
His brother was Craig James the SMU running back who had a few good seasons for the Pats and played in the Super Bowl against Da Bears.I started following the Red Sox in 1995, a year in which they won the AL East by trotting out over 50 different guys. I thought I remembered everything about that team, from Mookie’s uncle Terry Shumpert, to Wes (not Wilt) Chamberlain, to guys like Joel Johnston, Brian Bark, Brian Looney, and Tim Van Egmond.
I just took a look at their roster and saw a name that rang zero bells.
Chris James. Eight different teams in ten years. Was having a fine season in 1995 for the Royals (117 OPS+) until he was picked up by the Red Sox in August. He did absolutely nothing down the stretch, going 4 for 24 in limited action. He never played a MLB game again.
Yes, John Valentine was a great Sox gem in my opinion and just read this , which is pretty cool "On July 8, 1994, Valentin turned the 10th unassisted triple play in MLB history, in a game against the Mariners.[a] Playing shortstop in the 6th inning, Valentin caught Marc Newfield's line drive, tagged second base before Mike Blowers could return to tag up, and tagged out Keith Mitchell who had been attempting to advance to second base.[ " He and Mo Vaughn were a terrific combo both om offense and defense. In fact they played together .at Seton Hall says WIKI.It really was, especially after the drudgery of the 1992-1994 teams and the strike in 1994. John Valentin (8.3 bWAR) had a strong case for AL MVP that year and is probably the most underrated Red Sox player of the last 30 years. Not "forgotten" per se, but deeply unappreciated. 30.5 bWAR from 1993-1998 and in 4 postseason series for the Sox he gave us .347./.407./,639, including 3 homers and 12 RBI in the 1999 ALDS against Cleveland.
I remember having his '87 Rated Rookie card (Donruss?). Anyone with one of those, young me was convinced would be a star. Still waiting on Chris James...His brother was Craig James the SMU running back who had a few good seasons for the Pats and played in the Super Bowl against Da Bears.
You? Of all people to forget about Heath Slocumb and one of the most lopsided trades in history.Forgot all about this one.
Gone but never forgotten. Never will forget that beautiful mullet flowing out from under the Red Sox hat. He was actually buried in his Cub’s uniform. Classic character in sport’s history.How about Rod Beck (may he rest in peace)!
Lived in a Winnebago.Gone but never forgotten. Never will forget that beautiful mullet flowing out from under the Red Sox hat. He was actually buried in his Cub’s uniform. Classic character in sport’s history.
Who the hell is Stan Papi?Stan Papi
Ted Cox
Luis Aparicio
Carney Lansford
Sonny Siebert
They got royally screwed by the umpires in game one, but they also rolled out the corpse of Bret Saberhagen and Kent Mercker to start in the ALCS against a really good MFY team. They had no chance.Didn’t Beck give up a big home run in game 1 or game 2 of the 99 ALCS? Maybe to Bernie? Sox were actually really competitive that series. Could have at least taken it to 7 games with a couple breaks.