If I suggested to my wife that we buy a ninth TV I may as well start packing my bags.
YouTube announces Sunday Ticket Pricing
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My TV room has 5 TVs on NFL Sundays and 4 TVs full time. What's wrong with an extra screen? Stick it in a closet when it's not Sunday? They are 150 bucks.
Hey I agree with you. It's not the money. She thinks the number of TVs we have is offensive. It's weird how she doesn't complain when she wants to watch Below Deck on a 77 inch TV though.
I actually have an old 40 inch Samsung in a storage closet. She won't let me set it up. Next time she goes out of town I may add it to my office and see how long it takes her to notice.
If you choose a single game from the menu, there’s the prompt that says watch live, start from beginning, catch up through key plays and watch in multi view. I don’t think it will let you pick the exact games but you can choose more options than the default ones on the homepage.
Tangentially related to Sunday Ticket…
Screw the NFL for making you buy their ghastly NFL+ Premium service to stream Red Zone to a TV.
I subscribe to Optimum. I get a sports package for RedZone. I can stream it using my cable credentials on a phone or tablet.
But to stream it on a TV you must subscribe to NFL+ premium. The cable log in doesn’t work. So I had to use AirPlay to cast it from my phone to my TCL TV.
So frigging dumb and such a thumb in the eye to consumers.
(Note: I was doing this because my cable box is screwed up and I gotta replace it.)
Screw the NFL for making you buy their ghastly NFL+ Premium service to stream Red Zone to a TV.
I subscribe to Optimum. I get a sports package for RedZone. I can stream it using my cable credentials on a phone or tablet.
But to stream it on a TV you must subscribe to NFL+ premium. The cable log in doesn’t work. So I had to use AirPlay to cast it from my phone to my TCL TV.
So frigging dumb and such a thumb in the eye to consumers.
(Note: I was doing this because my cable box is screwed up and I gotta replace it.)
Just wanted to note that Google did an excellent job in terms of the stream quality today.
DirecTV’s streams were usually bad, and a few years in a row, they completely collapsed on opening day.
Every stream loaded super fast, looked good, and never dropped or buffered for me.
So far, a significant upgrade, IMO.
DirecTV’s streams were usually bad, and a few years in a row, they completely collapsed on opening day.
Every stream loaded super fast, looked good, and never dropped or buffered for me.
So far, a significant upgrade, IMO.
I had NFL+ premium last year and I loved the content (the all-22 specifically) but canceled it this year because it was such a pain in the ass to use it.
same - was able to watch on multiple devices easily and loved how easy it was to have to 3 or 4 games on one screen and easily switch back and forth to the action.
That number of subscribers is surprisingly low. If that includes businesses and bars, it’s shockingly low.
I have no clue what the numbers were with DirecTV, but I would have thought significantly higher.
They probably were because DirectTV had the benefit of having Red Zone forever and an existing subscriber base from the cable offering. Inertia is a powerful thing and it’s difficult to get people to switch things up.
That said, this was always going to lose money for YouTube and is more likely a “tent pole” for their growing subscriptions offering and gets them a foot in the door with the sports leagues (and the most important one) for future rights discussions.
That said, this was always going to lose money for YouTube and is more likely a “tent pole” for their growing subscriptions offering and gets them a foot in the door with the sports leagues (and the most important one) for future rights discussions.
Bars and restaurants still use DirectTv.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/05/25/directv-nfl-sunday-ticket-bars-restaurants.html
Honestly, Google’s service is about 10x better than DirecTV’s streams ever were. The only gripe anyone has is the inability to build your own multi-stream.
If I were MLB or another league, I would definitely consider Google based on how well they’ve been able to handle the NFL.
Im no coder but I dont get how this is a hard problem. YTTV has all the games playing in local markets already so the Sunday Ticket is just giving permission to someone with that plan access to all of those feeds. That seems, as YTTV is showing, a trivial problem. It’s odd that direct tv and the league apps sucked for this.
With regards to the Sunday Ticket, YouTube TV is the iPhone 15 and Direct TV was a 1993 Sony cell phone.
It is so much better, I would like to put together a class action suit against Direct TV for making me endure a woeful, expensive product for years.
Agreed that YTTV has been a gamechanger for football and sports in general. Multi-view is the idea of someone who watches sports like "us". That person or that set of people are probably woefully underpaid, even if YTTV is bleeding money on this.
As a side note, I will be shocked if this doesn't flip to wildly profitable or at least sets up something else that makes Alphabet a lot of money at some point in the future. They typically don't play unless they have a good plan and some sort of edge.
As a side note, I will be shocked if this doesn't flip to wildly profitable or at least sets up something else that makes Alphabet a lot of money at some point in the future. They typically don't play unless they have a good plan and some sort of edge.
Just in relation to DTV, it’s really just the horsepower to host and stream things really well. DirecTV just never handled the streams well because they always looked at streaming as their “second tier” offering.
Google does streaming better than anyone else.
I assume Google's goal is more sign ups overall for YouTube TV. Which probably will happen if people just get the Ticket and see how great it is and how easy it is to navigate.
I personally have Spectrum cable TV (for sports networks and because i'm dumb) and Youtube TV because I have a ton of screens going all the time. Spectrum looks worse, the closed captioning is way worse (to be fair, my boxes are old in my apartment, the newer boxes do allow CC customization, which I've had in other houses I've had) and dealing with a cable box can be a unreliable experience.
YouTube TV, on the other hand, is perfect, always. And the DVR process is so much better, too. It's better for taping, finding your taped shows, and watching your taped shows. The trifecta.
Have you used the Spectrum app through Roku? My folks got away from the cable boxes (and associated rental fees) and just went through the Spectrum app on Roku. They didn't find a limit on number of screens, but they also didn't push it that far (3 Roku + me stealing their access for various mobile apps).
Not the YTTV experience, and I don't know how it handles DVR as they didn't use it, but might smooth out your Spectrum experience a bit.
What does Spectrum have for sports networks that YTTV doesn't?
Quick glance shows possibly NHLN, MLBN, and ACCN, YTTV shows to have ESPN 1, 2, U, NEWS, FS1 and 2, SECN, B1N, NFLN, NBATV
Is there anything else?
is it YES and MASN that you want?
I'm seeing a first 3 month special for $53 each (YTTV) so considering it.
I have tried to Roku app. It's not bad and it does work, but it's slow and a little hard to navigate.
The cable box is more responsive for the TVs that I have the cable box on. For other TVs that I'm streaming, (either a Roku, FireTV or Apple TV depending on the room and the TV, i have a lot of screens) YTTV is the way to go.
MSG network, mainly, so I can watch the Rangers. Plus I already have a Spectrum phone and internet, so I get the triple play. I added all the movie channels because sometimes it's cool to surf and find a movie you like and chuck it up on the side TV.
My process is odd, I know. But it works for me. I like options. And screens.
Lots of complaints yesterday
https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/29/23937429/nfl-sunday-ticket-youtube-tv-buffering-glitch
https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/29/23937429/nfl-sunday-ticket-youtube-tv-buffering-glitch
The individual games worked all day. On the quad box, I was dealing with a fuzzy screen from 1pm to 2pm. Then it cleared up. By far the worst performance by Google since they started the Sunday ticket.
Not for me. I was pretty far behind because of “buffering”. Second half was ok for the most part.
I was actually scrambling to find an antenna I have stowed away somewhere during halftime but I couldn’t find it.
Early games were a mess. Buffering and poor picture all during the first early games. Frustrating to say the least.
It has been like this for three weeks for me. First 30 minutes of the early games have been going in and out of SD all month. Last week was the worst though.
FWIW, this was not only on Sunday Ticket. I was simply trying to watch the Pats on the local feed through YT TV and had multiple issues.
FYI, YouTube TV is offering a deal to save ~$100+ that apparently expires today for Sunday Ticket (depending if you're a subscriber, etc.). I signed up by clicking through to the subscriptions page of my YTTV account. Here's the main page for it: https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/
I found it a little hard to see the details until I clicked through, but the basics are here: https://sports.yahoo.com/much-does-nfl-sunday-ticket-205847151.html
I found it a little hard to see the details until I clicked through, but the basics are here: https://sports.yahoo.com/much-does-nfl-sunday-ticket-205847151.html
In short, the regular price of Sunday Ticket is $349. I added it today (and didn't add RedZone, which I find a bit overwhelming as someone with ADD) for ~$250. With RedZone it would have been an extra ~$40.
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Thanks for the heads-up!
I first signed up for YouTube TV last September, along with Sunday Ticket. I paid $339 for Sunday Ticket + RedZone (I missed the early-year discount) and was signed up for auto-renew at $389/year.
Since I also couldn't figure out how to take advantage of the latest offer, I just called the support line (833-855-0817) and they were extremely helpful. First the rep cancelled my existing Sunday Ticket and then he sent me a discount code by email to sign up again with the discount. I got the code and signed up while he stayed on the call--all very smooth.
I paid $219 for Sunday Ticket + RedZone for this year (it would have been $179 for just Sunday Ticket).
The call took 10 minutes total.
(I can't believe I lived with my crappy cable service for so long until last year...)
The Youtube TV Sunday Ticket was one of the best sports experiences I have ever had. The quad boxes and the no limitations on screens meant I would have every 1pm game on at the same time every week.
I did have Direct TV from 2004 to 2007 and it was kind of great but you were stuck with one game. Had to switch channels. (although I did have two DTV boxes even back then, so it was two games, but DTV as a service was piss poor)
Now, you set up 6 TVs, put Red Zone on one, 3 individual games you want to focus on, and the rest in the quad boxes. Truly sublime. A wall of football, like being in a Vegas sports book.
I did have Direct TV from 2004 to 2007 and it was kind of great but you were stuck with one game. Had to switch channels. (although I did have two DTV boxes even back then, so it was two games, but DTV as a service was piss poor)
Now, you set up 6 TVs, put Red Zone on one, 3 individual games you want to focus on, and the rest in the quad boxes. Truly sublime. A wall of football, like being in a Vegas sports book.
I thought I was obsessed with fishing, until I read this. Everyone needs a friend like you!
I did have a lot of friends over on Sundays over the course of the season. It was a lot of fun.
This is the first year I've been pained by this decision. I'm out of market for the Pats. In the Brady years and even in the Mac era, I was able to see about 10-12 Pats games either on national TV or they were shown here locally playing the Ravens or Commanders, etc. In the Brady years, I'd pay 300-400 or whatever it was for a handful of games and not regret it bc I didn't want to miss a minute. In the Mac years, I just accepted my 10ish games that were on TV and forgo the rest. This year, however, I'll be lucky to see 4ish games. But, they're going to be terrible. Yet, there's value sometimes in watching a train wreck. Tough decision. I may not decide until Sunday at noon. Which means, yes, I'm probably pulling the trigger. Too bad YT isn't offering a free trial to give me more time lol.
There was a YouTube promotion for “Ticket50” that I took advantage of yesterday to get it. Big thank you to @Smiling Joe Hesketh for trying to help me get across the finish line with this another way. DirectTv is bonkers man. Fees, contract commitment for 2 years, and all these weird up charges? What the hell is wrong with them? It was cheaper just getting it from YouTube. I don’t understand making folks sign up for a 2 year deal when your competitor doesn’t. You’re leaving money on the table.
Pretty good deal. I created a new FanDuel account and placed a $5 bet, and quickly received the promo code for 3 weeks of Sunday Ticket and $200 in bonus bets. I proceeded to place 40 $5 parlays of varying difficulty for tomorrow's NFL games. If all goes well I could be sitting very pretty. If all doesn't go well, at least I'll have 3 weeks of Sunday Ticket for free.