Would they kick Thuney out to LT? I don't really get using a high pick on IOL. Other than QB, it seems like the one spot where a rookie would get basically no playing time except for injury.
2018 NFL Draft Round 1 Game Thread NO SPOILERS PLEASE
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They could draft Ragnow, slot him at guard, and trade Shaq Mason if they don't want to pay the money it's going to take to sign him long-term. Or they simply could take somebody like Will Hernandez at 31.
Yup. That’s why we should enjoy the next 5 hours. Forget sizzle, nothing will be done to addresss the D on day 1, and one of the firsts will be dealt.
So taking Ragnow lets them trade away their best offensive lineman (and for what return?)? This team has enough holes; I don't really get this. And Hernandez creates the same kind of dilemma.
This would be so typical BB, even more than my scenario of trading up from 23 and then trading back from 31. Everyone would go bananas, they wouldn't address the D until tomorrow, and then of course they will win 12-13 games and end up back in the AFCCG.
Probably, unless it is like 2012 and BB drafts multiple difference making defensive players in the first round. You just never know with him.
You don't think it's possible they trade Mason if they don't want to pay him? I do. Will BB commit the kind of money that Andrew Norwell got this offseason(5 years/$66.5 million)?
What would the return on a Shaq Mason trade have to be to make it worth it to draft Ragnow in the 1st? A 2nd round pick? Early-mid 3rd?
Possible but definitely disappointing. They need more talent and this is just roster churn.
Probably a 2 - they'd probably get a third for Mason as a comp pick (assuming they didn't counteract that with another signing) but I don't think they can get that for an undersized G that would then need a new contract.
Is Mason really going to get top end $? I know he's really been good, but it seems like not being a prototypical G may limit his market. Anyway if they go interior OL, and I'm with Super Nomario- I don't think they will, it should be James Daniels out of Iowa.
No way in hell he’s paying Mason. Logan Mankins was a much better player and getting him paid involved Kraft’s intervention. Mason doesn’t have his resume. One thing I will say is this, Belichick has an excellent track record when he actually picks someone in the first round. None of his firsts should be scrutinized even if it’s not a sexy name. The majority of them have hit in some way shape or form.
Hell even Maroney was good for a season or so.
Apparently they are trotting out all the former Cowboys greats along with Rog to start the festivities. Hoping to avoid the massive boos he received last year I supposed. I predict they will still boo the shit out of him.
And to be fair, NFLN just reported on trades during B.B. era: it’s about a 50/50 split, 21 trade downs, 22 trade ups, or maybe vice versa.
The frustrating Christmas morning aspect is that the trade downs tend to come high in the draft, with the trade ups reported in real time as “Who ...?” reaches.
I used to love it when B.B. would wheel a first for a second and a first the following year. But just as teams long ago stopped giving away Mike Vrabels and Rodney Harrisons, those trades have not happened for a long time.
On your last point, this used to be a specialty, but teams stopped doing that several years ago when they got less dumb.
On your second point, again 2012 stands out, because the Pats traded up TWICE in the first round that year, once from 27 to 21, and again from 31 to 25, to select exciting defensive players.
On your first point, correct, it has been very even in terms of trades up and down (and I think he is also in the 20s in terms of trading players for picks).
Speaking of, and I probably ask this every year, but are you guys watching on ESPN or NFLN?
Hopefully watching both via watch3 and Fubo. Will be switching back and forth for the audio. (On ESPN when McShay/Kiper/Schefter are talking. and NFLN other times)
NFLN. Like many on this board I loathe ESPN and avoid whenever possible. Also, their analysts are better.
Agreed on both counts. My brother works for ESPN so sometimes I feel guilty but then I think about DFG and... naaaah.
On one of the two networks, some commentator reported a conversation with an exec who knows Dorsey very well. Reaction — NFW he takes Mayfield (Mary Kay Cabot reporting notwithstanding).
I can’t say I understand why the Browns are leaking all over the place with the #1 pick. (Their leak that they are open for business on the #4 pick, is completely understandable).
Edit — if the idea is to scare the Jets into a trade cuz they want Mayfield, it won’t work. There are too many QBs, the Jets seem too sensible, and the threat is not credible because the ever changing leaks to Cabot have created a flavor of the day feel to this.
Steelers shopping Bryant
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/26/report-steelers-listening-to-offers-for-martavis-bryant/
It would be just like them to get a good return, package it with what they have, draft Lamar Jackson, then use him as a Swiss Army knife while grooming him as Ben’s successor
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/26/report-steelers-listening-to-offers-for-martavis-bryant/
It would be just like them to get a good return, package it with what they have, draft Lamar Jackson, then use him as a Swiss Army knife while grooming him as Ben’s successor
Good return? The guy has next to zero trade value. He is cheap but headed into a contract year. 6th round pick at best, maybe 7th.
Any chance we can get a Patriots specific draft news only thread? I'm not going to be able to watch and wading through this entire thread will be pretty onerus.
I would have started it, but didn't want to break protocol in here.
I would have started it, but didn't want to break protocol in here.
Roger comes out each year surrounding himself with veterans, kids with cancer and puppies and he still gets booed off the stage each time. It's the most entertaining part of the entire night to see this prick get jeered 32 times.
Teams already eyeing move into back of first round: Vikings have received calls today from six teams interested in potentially trading into back half of first round and No. 30 pick, per source. Calls coming for New England at 31 and Philadelphia at 32, too.
There’s zero chance the pats make a pick at 31. None. Zip.
I’m convinced that they either trade out of the first round with both picks entirely or they end up drafting a guy like Ragnow or one of the Iowa guards at 23. The only way they make the pick at 31 is if a TE they really like is there and they make the pick to fuck with Gronk.
Surprised we still don't know who the Browns are taking. They must think a team could panic into a trade.
You think it's bad now, just wait until he gets drafted by the Jets...
Ummm...I know. I figured people would click on the tweet and see that.
I thought it was funny.
But the way you posted it -- w/o explanation -- could have confused others
or so i thought
“3 QBs going 1-2-3 for the first time since 1999”
I must be old, “since 1999” doesn’t seem like such a big deal.
I must be old, “since 1999” doesn’t seem like such a big deal.
Wow, “I can’t believe you’re booing the Cowboys” — pathetic.
Big respect to Dallas fans of all things,
Big respect to Dallas fans of all things,
What a cheap, transparent attempt by RG to avoid another embarrassing yet deserved soundbyte