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2018 Yankees Offseason Discussion
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Thoughts on my estimate on what NY will give him? 8 year/28 mil - maybe a vesting 9th year?
will it take 8/30? Can't imagine NY giving him 9 or 10 based on what they've said thru the grapevine.
will it take 8/30? Can't imagine NY giving him 9 or 10 based on what they've said thru the grapevine.
It’s hard to say, my guess all along has been 10/280 but people seem to be thinking more towards 7/250. To me the AAV would seem to be much more important for NY than the length, but they seem to be signaling the reverse, so I guess we’ll see.
Tulo to NYY. I called for this when he was released, very happy.
Free agent shortstop Troy Tulowitzki is in agreement on a deal with the New York Yankees pending a physical, league sources tell ESPN. Tulowitzki is expected to join the Yankees on a league-minimum deal, with the Toronto Blue Jays paying the remainder of his $20 million salary.
Free agent shortstop Troy Tulowitzki is in agreement on a deal with the New York Yankees pending a physical, league sources tell ESPN. Tulowitzki is expected to join the Yankees on a league-minimum deal, with the Toronto Blue Jays paying the remainder of his $20 million salary.
Troy Tulowitzki is expected to play shortstop for the Yankees while Didi Gregorius recovers from Tommy John surgery. Important: This does not take the Yankees out of the Manny Machado sweepstakes, sources tell ESPN. Tulowitzki at the minimum salary was simply too good to pass up.
I think they always wanted him as a 4th OF, either behind Stanton or Clint Frazier (who will go to AAA if Stanton is the primary LF). The main reason they kept him, besides clubhouse presence, is that they don't really have anyone else who can play CF adequately besides Hicks.
This is the right question but he is having Tommy John surgery on his throwing shoulder, so NY really can't count on him this year. If he does come back as himself and Gleyber and Machado are also both healthy and raking, it's a nice problem to have especially at essentially no cost (financially, there is a bit of opportunity cost).
Here's what you won't read anywhere else, though: what this accomplishes as long as Tulo makes it to Opening Day healthy, even if he is terrible for a month, or hurt quickly, just by his mere presence IMO, NY really improves their defense.
1) keeping Gleyber at 2B, his ideal position IMO, 2) assuming Machado comes, getting him at his best position, 3B, and 3) getting Andujar away from 3B.
So assuming we get to Opening Day with Tulo intact, then if he sucks or is hurt at any point after that, the obvious move is just to put in another SS like Alberto* or Wade, but then there will be much less pressure on those two then since they are not the ones pushing three more established guys to new jobs, they are already in those new jobs.
Great overall defensive move for the team, it didn't have to be Tulo but he is the cheapest since TOR is paying him and has easily the most offensive upside as the worst hitter in a lineup (Gleyber is going to hit 9th again just because he's so young, I think, Tulo 8th). I was kind of excited to watch Jose Iglesias play defense between Machado and Gleyber but I have a good feeling about Tulowitzki (six months younger than Jed Lowrie).
*Hanser Alberto, 26 year old Dominican infielder they claimed from TEX a couple months ago, who has a very strong defensive reputation at SS and can also play 2B and 3B.
Sorry, twice I made that mistake now. Anyway, not good for a SS was the point.
Probably not. It’s difficult to play baseball when you have the durability of a potato chip.
Well, it's an unusual case. Tulo says that his heels were bothering him for a long time, hence his poor numbers/performance. So he had surgery on both and reports say he looked like he was moving great in the workouts a couple of weeks ago, he had to have looked good for Cashman to essentially choose him over Iglesias or Hechavarria or Galvis, all proven very good defensive SSs.
Definitely less, but I’m sure Hechavarria wouldn’t cost much if NY had gone in that direction.
Here are some quotes from a non-Yankee scout who saw Tulo’s December workout:
“Tulowitzki was “in good shape” and “moving without restriction,” the scout said. He added that there’s “strength in his swing” and that “he was able to catch the ball cleanly and throw accurately.””
https://www.nj.com/sports/2019/01/yankees-sign-troy-tulowitzki-what-scout-who-saw-workout-says.html
I assumed the ball dropped in Times Square? When does the other (Machado) ball drop? What's the hold-up?
Also would love to target Corey Ray on MIL's AA team as a possible link between Hicks and Florial, he is already 24 and blocked by Lorenzo Cain and Yelich and a bunch of other guys, even their AAA CF (Tyrone Taylor) seems to be really good.
Ray was the AA Southern League MVP last year, leading the league in both HRs and SBs (!!!), but he strikes out a TON (176 in 532 ABs) and so there are obvious questions about how much contact he can make in MLB, so he is not even a top 100 prospect. NY could overpay if needed with a roughly equivalent 2B/SS (Thairo Estrada is younger and on one top 100 list coming into 2018, Wade might blossom somewhere else too) and a high ceiling pitching prospect or two, plus a year of Sonny Gray.
Anyway, NY has moved/lost so many AAA OFs in recent seasons (Gamel, Cave, McKinney, Fowler, Mark Payton in this rule 5) that they could really use a guy like Ray. I do know Cashman asked about him in exchange for Gray at one point and was presumably turned down, but I would give up more if needed, especially since NY will need to clear 40 man spots for FAs. I would also think about trading Gray back to OAK for Dustin Fowler if they would do that, they have Laureano now ahead of him.
Ray was the AA Southern League MVP last year, leading the league in both HRs and SBs (!!!), but he strikes out a TON (176 in 532 ABs) and so there are obvious questions about how much contact he can make in MLB, so he is not even a top 100 prospect. NY could overpay if needed with a roughly equivalent 2B/SS (Thairo Estrada is younger and on one top 100 list coming into 2018, Wade might blossom somewhere else too) and a high ceiling pitching prospect or two, plus a year of Sonny Gray.
Anyway, NY has moved/lost so many AAA OFs in recent seasons (Gamel, Cave, McKinney, Fowler, Mark Payton in this rule 5) that they could really use a guy like Ray. I do know Cashman asked about him in exchange for Gray at one point and was presumably turned down, but I would give up more if needed, especially since NY will need to clear 40 man spots for FAs. I would also think about trading Gray back to OAK for Dustin Fowler if they would do that, they have Laureano now ahead of him.
Cashman answered some Sonny Gray questions today, he still plans to deal him but is in no rush currently until CC passes some more medical tests and someone gives him a return he is happy with.
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"Our intention is to move Sonny Gray and relocate him when we get the proper return, in our estimation," Cashman said. "It'll happen this winter, it'll happen in the spring or it'll happen sometime during the season. The CC circumstance certainly has given us pause, because we want to make sure that we're covered and protected."
Sabathia had a stent inserted on Dec. 11 after a blockage was found in an artery leading to the hurler's heart. While the Yankees have said that they expect the 38-year-old Sabathia to report to Spring Training on time, Cashman has slowed negotiations concerning Gray until Sabathia clears an array of follow-up visits scheduled for this month.
https://www.mlb.com/yankees/news/sabathias-health-may-affect-sonny-gray-trade/c-302402568
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"Our intention is to move Sonny Gray and relocate him when we get the proper return, in our estimation," Cashman said. "It'll happen this winter, it'll happen in the spring or it'll happen sometime during the season. The CC circumstance certainly has given us pause, because we want to make sure that we're covered and protected."
Sabathia had a stent inserted on Dec. 11 after a blockage was found in an artery leading to the hurler's heart. While the Yankees have said that they expect the 38-year-old Sabathia to report to Spring Training on time, Cashman has slowed negotiations concerning Gray until Sabathia clears an array of follow-up visits scheduled for this month.
https://www.mlb.com/yankees/news/sabathias-health-may-affect-sonny-gray-trade/c-302402568
And Cashman also talked about Tulo, the second workout is new news and the public commitment that Tulo is their SS until Didi is back is new too.
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Tulowitzki held a showcase for about a dozen big league clubs at Long Beach State University last month, after which the Yankees requested a follow-up workout, dispatching scouts Jay Darnell and Dan Giese to attend and shoot video.
"He really looked athletic," Cashman said. "It looked like he had that bounce back in his step. ... We are obviously looking at this as a risk because he hasn't played for a year and a half, but I think there's a lot of upside here in terms of what we were able to evaluate."
Cashman said that Tulowitzki understands the situation with Gregorius, who could return from Tommy John surgery in June, July or August.
"He knows that Didi is coming back, and he welcomes that," Cashman said. "He wants to be on a team with the best players. He's looking forward to filling that position while Didi's out. Hopefully he's a very productive player for us while Didi is recovering from his injury."
https://www.mlb.com/yankees/news/yankees-plan-to-start-troy-tulowitzki-at-short/c-302402534
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Tulowitzki held a showcase for about a dozen big league clubs at Long Beach State University last month, after which the Yankees requested a follow-up workout, dispatching scouts Jay Darnell and Dan Giese to attend and shoot video.
"He really looked athletic," Cashman said. "It looked like he had that bounce back in his step. ... We are obviously looking at this as a risk because he hasn't played for a year and a half, but I think there's a lot of upside here in terms of what we were able to evaluate."
Cashman said that Tulowitzki understands the situation with Gregorius, who could return from Tommy John surgery in June, July or August.
"He knows that Didi is coming back, and he welcomes that," Cashman said. "He wants to be on a team with the best players. He's looking forward to filling that position while Didi's out. Hopefully he's a very productive player for us while Didi is recovering from his injury."
https://www.mlb.com/yankees/news/yankees-plan-to-start-troy-tulowitzki-at-short/c-302402534
NY signed Billy Burns to a minor league deal to be their AAA CF, they could really use an upgrade here by spring training, still hoping for a Sonny Gray for Corey Ray deal (happy to include more with Gray if needed). NY has a ton of corner OFs but no real CF depth in between Hicks and Florial who is probably two years away still.
He is 3-4 years younger than most of the other top guys on the market this winter, 29 to their 33 or 34.
Apparently, the option has to be exercised after the 2nd year. If it isn't Britton can opt out after 2 years. Not that bad, I guess.
I'm not a huge Britton fan, but it is nice to have a lefty besides Chapman, and with Betances a FA after next season and Chapman able to opt out (unlikely given how tough the FA market has become for players), it is good to have him on board.
I think 10 mil/yr would be OK. I'd be uncomfortable with much higher if I was a Yankee fan. Maybe what is essentially a mutual option after two years is for injury concerns with that Achilles.
Cheaper than I expected honestly:
"Zach Britton's deal with the Yankees will be in the range of $13 million a season, sources tell ESPN. The deal guarantees three years, includes a club option for a fourth season that can be exercised after Year 2 and, if not exercised, Britton can opt out after that second year."
"Zach Britton's deal with the Yankees will be in the range of $13 million a season, sources tell ESPN. The deal guarantees three years, includes a club option for a fourth season that can be exercised after Year 2 and, if not exercised, Britton can opt out after that second year."
Yeah, brainlock, thanks, but all of Miller/Robertson/Ottavino are 33 or 34, so a 2-3 year difference still. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan, but maybe he will be better further removed from his injury.