Quinnipiac is willing to pay its new coach $800,000 per Jeff Goodman. They are in the mix with Andy Toole of Robert Morris, Mark Schmidt of St. Bonaventure, and Will Brown of Albany.
Buyout is quite large this year at $3.5 million. Drops down to $1 million after July 1 which is kind of late to replace him. While I think they'd love to fire him, don't be surprised if the economics force another year.I would be SHOCKED if Tom Crean is back at IU next year. It seems like he has run his course
My Indiana friends tell me that Chris Collins is the guy they are coveting.If a hot young coach makes the obligatory surprise tournament run and willing to come take it on the chin for a few years in Bloomington then the economics do not matter. At some schools, and Indiana is one of them, economics aren't a factor.
Burt Kahn is turning over in his grave.Quinnipiac is willing to pay its new coach $800,000 per Jeff Goodman. They are in the mix with Andy Toole of Robert Morris, Mark Schmidt of St. Bonaventure, and Will Brown of Albany.
We need to make basketball a winner at QU. I am an alum. Inexcusable with the facilities they have to be mediocre if not horrendous in men's basketball.Burt Kahn is turning over in his grave.
They also might be looking at Travis Steele, Xavier Associate Head Coach. Also Goodman followed up on the tweet saying that the 800k would only be for certain coaches.Quinnipiac is willing to pay its new coach $800,000 per Jeff Goodman. They are in the mix with Andy Toole of Robert Morris, Mark Schmidt of St. Bonaventure, and Will Brown of Albany.
I just don't understand why Archie Miller would take this job. He's in such a strong position right now and can afford to wait it out another year for the right opportunity if he likes.NC State's #1 target is Archie Miller.
Some others: UNCW's Kevin Keatts, VCU's Will Wade (after not getting Shaka Smart 6 years ago).
I agree with you. I mean, maybe he wants to be successful at his alma mater, but there is likely a much better opportunity out thereI just don't understand why Archie Miller would take this job. He's in such a strong position right now and can afford to wait it out another year for the right opportunity if he likes.
NC State is a really, really tough job. I'm not sure what they do. I absolutely think they can get Kevin Keatts and/or Will Wade but I don't see them getting Miller who has a higher profile. So actually I guess that's what they should do.
(I'm still thinking about this --- I live in Raleigh so it's home turf --- and I'm not sure they get Wade either. VCU is probably a better job than NC State at the moment and he can absolutely afford to wait)
To be clear, I actually think that Archie Miller will, one day, be the coach of NC State. But my question is: why now? He is so young and in five years the landscape here will be completely different - K will be 75, Roy will be 71 with the very real possibility of being in the middle of a multi-year postseason ban should he decide to stick it out. Why come now when it's not like NC State is going to not be available to him whenever he wants?I agree with you. I mean, maybe he wants to be successful at his alma mater, but there is likely a much better opportunity out there
edit: like maybe Indiana?
Makes sense -- Big Ten success, part of the Bob Knight coaching tree (2nd generation). Only downside is that if he succeeds at IU, he'll be a frontrunner to succeed Coach K when the time comes.My Indiana friends tell me that Chris Collins is the guy they are coveting.
Isn't he arguable the frontrunner now though? I don't think IU is in a position to worry about a scenario 5 years away like that [I know K will only be 75 but he's had health problems and I don't see him as an 80 year old coach, but more like a Coach Smith that stayed on, had an office and a role during the Gutheridge years]. Indiana is going to lose out to Duke but you can only say that about maybe 6-7 programs in the country. I think they go for the best coach available, which has to be Collins I think.Makes sense -- Big Ten success, part of the Bob Knight coaching tree (2nd generation). Only downside is that if he succeeds at IU, he'll be a frontrunner to succeed Coach K when the time comes.
Romar is his Godfather - sort of like how Ben Simmons ended up at LSUWhy do all these kids want to play for a shitty coach. Jesus.
Quick, someone hack Brad Stevens' Twitter and erase all tweets on the subject.Indiana stealing the moment from the NCAA's A-Rod style.
Jeff Rabjohns @JeffRabjohns 29s29 seconds ago
BREAKING: Indiana has fired basketball coach Tom Crean. #iubb
Dude, he's not leaving the Celtics for Indiana.Quick, someone hack Brad Stevens' Twitter and erase all tweets on the subject.
Agreed. He has the Celtics on the verge on something great and is paid a lot of money.Dude, he's not leaving the Celtics for Indiana.
A couple names off the top of my head they would go after would be Steve Alford, Billy Donovan, Sean Miller.Agreed. He has the Celtics on the verge on something great and is paid a lot of money.
I think Sean Miller likes where he isA couple names off the top of my head they would go after would be Steve Alford, Billy Donovan, Sean Miller.
No search firm for this hire. It will be the sole responsibility of the AD.
The only thing holding him back in my opinion would be his Chicago ties.Well of course there is talk of that. I'm sure that's how he sells the program. But I don't see why he wouldn't take the money and huge program.
Because if he isn't successful at IU, succeeding Coach K at Duke is out of the question, and landing another gig like Northwestern (where he is coach for life if he wants to be) is hardly assured. Also, you aren't going to succeed at IU the way Bob Knight did back in the day; if his ultimate goal is Duke, the things he needs to do to succeed at Indiana might hurt his chances.Well of course there is talk of that. I'm sure that's how he sells the program. But I don't see why he wouldn't take the money and huge program.
Ok, this is a good point. If he does not do well at IU then you're right, Duke is out. I just think you can't hold out for Duke when you are competing with Wojo and Capel. When you get an opportunity to grab one of these marquee programs that pay a shitload of money I think you have to take it. Also, these guys are competitors. He probably doesn't believe he can fail.Because if he isn't successful at IU, succeeding Coach K at Duke is out of the question, and landing another gig like Northwestern (where he is coach for life if he wants to be) is hardly assured. Also, you aren't going to succeed at IU the way Bob Knight did back in the day; if his ultimate goal is Duke, the things he needs to do to succeed at Indiana might hurt his chances.
I still think Collins takes the IU job if it's offered, but there's a decent argument that he shouldn't.
But couldn't that competitiveness make him truly believe that he could do something special at Northwestern? He already did something no other coach has done there. I don't know that he will stay or he should stay. But I think this line of thinking certainly could be more than just a sales pitch.Ok, this is a good point. If he does not do well at IU then you're right, Duke is out. I just think you can't hold out for Duke when you are competing with Wojo and Capel. When you get an opportunity to grab one of these marquee programs that pay a shitload of money I think you have to take it. Also, these guys are competitors. He probably doesn't believe he can fail.
Anything is possible and neither of us are in his head or know him but I'm coming from the perspective of IU being a Top Ten job.But couldn't that competitiveness make him truly believe that he could do something special at Northwestern? He already did something no other coach has done there. I don't know that he will stay or he should stay. But I think this line of thinking certainly could be more than just a sales pitch.
I wonder how much he talks to Fitzgerald, who has spurned a lot of bigger football programs to stay there for over a decade.
What does Rand get for hockey?We need to make basketball a winner at QU. I am an alum. Inexcusable with the facilities they have to be mediocre if not horrendous in men's basketball.
A couple names off the top of my head they would go after would be Steve Alford, Billy Donovan, Sean Miller.
Donovan has been pretty successful at OKC. Not sure why he would leave now for the headache that is IU and the thought of their collective fan base that they are top dog when they've accomplished very little in the last 25 years.How you know it's Donovan. it gets close to NBA playoffs (and into NBA playoffs) and IU has yet to announce a new coach.
I think Rand in in the 300k range. Obviously hockey is not the money maker that college basketball is.What does Rand get for hockey?
his comments yesterday were pretty crypticDonovan has been pretty successful at OKC. Not sure why he would leave now for the headache that is IU and the thought of their collective fan base that they are top dog when they've accomplished very little in the last 25 years.
That said Crean deserved to be canned. Got a pass for the first 3 years for the mess he took over. The last 6 he's had a lot of talent with pretty minimal results. They went 7-11 in what was a very mediocre Big Ten. Heck, MSU lost 2 of their 3 big men for the season in the first week of practice yet were able to get a winning conference record to squeeze into the Dance. No excuse for not making it this year when the NCAA bubble was so incredibly weak.
I guess it's just a different scale, and lack of TV money. Rand's team certainly has put more fannies in the seats than the hoops team the last decade plus. At the women have been good lately - made the NCAA tourney this year.I think Rand in in the 300k range. Obviously hockey is not the money maker that college basketball is.
This could be Stevens, who would actually make more sense than Donovan. *ducks*How you know it's Donovan. it gets close to NBA playoffs (and into NBA playoffs) and IU has yet to announce a new coach.