After Chris Paul agreed to opt-in on contract, Clippers are trading All-Star guard to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell @TheVertical
Chris Paul traded to Houston
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After Chris Paul agreed to opt-in on contract, Clippers are trading All-Star guard to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell @TheVertical
Sources: After Paul informed Clippers he'd sign w/ HOU in FA, teams agreed to deal sending Beverley, Decker, Williams and 2018 FRP for Paul.
I assume he told the Clips he was opting out otherwise. It's a decent haul by those standards; Beverly and Williams definitely have trade value, and Decker could develop some if given a lot of playing time.
That's it? Clippertown
Does this mean price for Deandre went down?
maybe Decker means Brooklyn and Jessie to dance girls and Eric to the Rams?
Does this mean price for Deandre went down?
maybe Decker means Brooklyn and Jessie to dance girls and Eric to the Rams?
It's not bad considering he was gonna walk. CP3 gets his money, LAC get a pick a young player, a cheap tradable piece in Williams and Beverly.
No, but Dekker is definitely not what I'd consider an exciting young player. Would guess Blake is all but gone now too.
RIP 2019/2020 Clippers pick
let's trade that pick back to LAC for Deandre!
I don't know why he didn't pick the Spurs. Him and harden are two of the biggest ballhogs in the league. Odd mix but he's a great player, they'll make it work
I laughed at the idea he'd turn down the money. Didn't even consider that he would talk Doc into trading him so he got paid AND got to leave.
Given that he was probably going to leave anyways I think its a nice little haul for the Clippers. Contenders will want Beverly - the dude is really good at what he does.
How much better than Beverly though?
I know cp3 is the much better player, but Beverly kinda seemed like a more natural pairing?
Not sure he covers them up more than Beverly already was. I think this could be a classic case of diminishing returns on offense. But Paul shot 40% from threes, that is always useful.
Because Beverley didn't? CP3 is a great defender, but at best that's a lateral move from Beverley on that side of the floor...
Houston will try to go after George now too. I don't think they have the assets to compete with Boston on that.
He may well, but its not a foregone conclusion. There has been plenty of reporting on the tension between Paul and the younger players on the roster, particularly Blake. Maybe he likes the idea of the Clippers being solely HIS team. Maybe Doc reminds him of the success Blake (and the Clips) had when Paul was injured and Blake took over the play making duties. Maybe he likes the idea that most of Paul's shots in the offense now belong to him.
They're both ball-hogs, sure... because they're also both tremendous, all-world passers and scorers. Did we learn nothing from Durant joining the Dubs last year? Or from Durant leaving OKC? More elite players is not "diminishing returns."
They will absolutely still need to be better on defense, that much is true. And since Ryan Anderson will almost certainly be gone to free up cap space (unless CP3 takes a huge discount?), that solves that problem.
EDIT: I forgot to say: holy shit.
They will absolutely still need to be better on defense, that much is true. And since Ryan Anderson will almost certainly be gone to free up cap space (unless CP3 takes a huge discount?), that solves that problem.
EDIT: I forgot to say: holy shit.
How are the Rockets making this work in the cap, exactly?
Edit: Just looked this up, if the Rockets renounce all their free-agents plus their exceptions it leaves them with just a shade more cap space than the difference in salaries between CP3 and Beverley + Dekker + Sweet Lou.
Edit: Just looked this up, if the Rockets renounce all their free-agents plus their exceptions it leaves them with just a shade more cap space than the difference in salaries between CP3 and Beverley + Dekker + Sweet Lou.
I assumed The Logo was brought in to keep this thing together. Ouch. Clips will be back to the stone ages again soon. Doc to Knicks has to be in play.
Between this and the Jordan trade rumors I'd say the exact opposite. West clearly sees the writing on the wall and is being proactive about a rebuild.
This probably makes Houston a player for Hayward now, too.
Just reposting this from the off-season moves thread.
On paper, there is a universe where you take turns running PnRs with Capela or Harrell or with each other (when the match-ups permit) and torching teams.
Also, Paul had his best season from deep last year, shooting 41.1 from beyond the arc while averaging the most attempts per game of his career. Imagine Harden driving to the lane and kicking out to Paul who can either find another open player with a sick pass or more reliably drain a three than anyone else that Houston had last year.
I am not sure how much better this makes Houston but if they can make it work they will be a lot of fun to watch.
I am betting that Paul will enjoy D'Antoni ball much more than he did Rivers ball.
On paper, there is a universe where you take turns running PnRs with Capela or Harrell or with each other (when the match-ups permit) and torching teams.
Also, Paul had his best season from deep last year, shooting 41.1 from beyond the arc while averaging the most attempts per game of his career. Imagine Harden driving to the lane and kicking out to Paul who can either find another open player with a sick pass or more reliably drain a three than anyone else that Houston had last year.
I am not sure how much better this makes Houston but if they can make it work they will be a lot of fun to watch.
I am betting that Paul will enjoy D'Antoni ball much more than he did Rivers ball.
There could be some additional salary filler in the deal that has not been reported if they are going to do this in this cap year instead of waiting until 7/1. Nene's soon to be expired salary gets you almost there.
Edit: Never-mind Nene cannot be included. Thought they had a team option on him..
Yup. Not a seamless fit but these guys will make it work. And it also lessens the wear and tear of each since they can share the ball handling duties. An offense that was already fun to watch just got even moreso.
They are going to have to push this into the new year rather than finalizing before 7/1, unless there is additional salary going to LAC that we don't know about.
Sure it makes the Rockets better but not sure it makes them that much better that they start to challenge GSW. Unless, of course, CP's taking some of the ball handling responsibilities so that (and his leadership) convinces Harden to start playing defense.
Best thing about this is how it will affect the rest of free agency. The Clippers can now open up a max slot, maybe even two if Griffin and Reddick both walk. Spurs probably shift their attention to Lowry or even George Hill now to fill the PG position. Paul George or George Hayward probably in play to Houston. Can't wait until Saturday.
So this is what I found for the Rockets' team post-Paul:
PG: Chris Paul, Isaiah Taylor
SG: James Harden, Eric Gordon
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Ryan Anderson, Montrezl Harrell, Kyle Wiltjer
C: Clint Capela, Chinanu Onuaku
HOU takes a major hit to their depth, losing Beverly, Dekker, Williams, Nene. They need those top six guys to stay healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if they are worse than last year in the end.
PG: Chris Paul, Isaiah Taylor
SG: James Harden, Eric Gordon
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Ryan Anderson, Montrezl Harrell, Kyle Wiltjer
C: Clint Capela, Chinanu Onuaku
HOU takes a major hit to their depth, losing Beverly, Dekker, Williams, Nene. They need those top six guys to stay healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if they are worse than last year in the end.
I realize that Celtics fans are still stung by the Reggie Lewis counting against the cap decision, but the salary cap actually does affect everyone, not just the Celtics.
first, Hayward to Houston is almost impossible. After this trade, Houston will be carrying 92.5 million in salary to 5 guys (Paul (24.3), Harden (28.3), Anderson (19.6), Gordon (12.9), Ariza(7.4), and it may be more than that because Paul supposedly has a trade kicker (whether that kicker is valid in this situation I don't know). I don't even have to look up whether they can cut/renounce everyone else to tell you that they'll need to get someone to take Anderson and Ariza for next to nothing in order to have space for a max.
second, the LAC would have to work really hard to open two max slots. Even without Paul or Griffin (and removing the retired Pierce) they are at $59 million. So sure, you can also get someone to take Crawford, Rivers, et al. and clear another spot, or I guess trade Jordan.
But where are all of these other salaries going?
first, Hayward to Houston is almost impossible. After this trade, Houston will be carrying 92.5 million in salary to 5 guys (Paul (24.3), Harden (28.3), Anderson (19.6), Gordon (12.9), Ariza(7.4), and it may be more than that because Paul supposedly has a trade kicker (whether that kicker is valid in this situation I don't know). I don't even have to look up whether they can cut/renounce everyone else to tell you that they'll need to get someone to take Anderson and Ariza for next to nothing in order to have space for a max.
second, the LAC would have to work really hard to open two max slots. Even without Paul or Griffin (and removing the retired Pierce) they are at $59 million. So sure, you can also get someone to take Crawford, Rivers, et al. and clear another spot, or I guess trade Jordan.
But where are all of these other salaries going?
From what I'm reading, it looks like Paul will opt into the last year of his deal and then sign a super-max extension with Houston for $205 million. Is that legal under the CBA and if so, can someone explain how? I know he made the All-NBA team in two of the last three years, but I wasn't sure you could still tack on five additional years.
I'm not seeing a lot of assets but after seeing the pu-pu platter returns for Butler and Paul in the last week nothing would shock me.
Crazy question: is there a scenario where the Rockets now trade Harden as part of plan to end up with 3 stars instead of 2?