Meanwhile, the Mets are stuck in neutral over the screwed up Bruce deal
That's what I was thinking. We also forget Betances had a rocky year or two in the minors.Again, my favorite Yankee Twitter follow:
Yankeesource @YankeeSource 3m3 minutes ago
Tate could be the next Betances out of the pen for the Yankees. If the third pitch comes around he's a high ceiling starter. Good buy low.
Rotoworld now says 2 players. Not bad.PTBNL for Nova.
Uhhh....sick burn?Damn, you guys are gonna win a shitload of minor league championships.
Gary Denbo, one of NY's main minor league guys, coached Tate on Team USA in 2014, and I'm guessing his knowing Tate was behind NY's interest in him. He had two dominant starts to start this season, then had the hamstring issues as you say and hasn't been the same guy since. Here's a somewhat in-depth piece about NY's plan to get him back on track:So now that the dust has settled, and I have had time to think about these deals I think my favorite one might bet the swap of two months of Beltran for Dillon Tate.
There is so much upside there in this deal and the Yankees really gave up so little. Yeah Tate has stunk, but maybe his hamstring injury has really bothered him or he really is doing something wrong that the Yankees can fix mechanically. But stuff just doesn't disappear this quickly.
You're joking, but if Judge gets promoted and is awful, I wouldn't be totally surprised if that happens in the winter.You know who you guys need? ... Puig
I never jokeYou're joking, but if Judge gets promoted and is awful, I wouldn't be totally surprised if that happens in the winter.
KLaw on the dealSo now that the dust has settled, and I have had time to think about these deals I think my favorite one might bet the swap of two months of Beltran for Dillon Tate.
There is so much upside there in this deal and the Yankees really gave up so little. Yeah Tate has stunk, but maybe his hamstring injury has really bothered him or he really is doing something wrong that the Yankees can fix mechanically. But stuff just doesn't disappear this quickly.
if he finds his fastball it's a nice pickup. If not, well...Aug 1, 2016
Keith Law
ESPN Senior Writer
The Yankees' rebuild continues with a trade of Carlos Beltran to Texas for another prospect from last year's draft, pitcher Dillon Tate, whose fastball speed has decreased since he got into pro ball. The designated hitter spot has been the Rangers' least productive, with an aggregate line of .223/.305/.349 this season, so Beltran (.304/.344/.546) is an immediate upgrade there and lets the Rangers play Jurickson Profar every day in left field. It's a fairly straightforward boost for their offense without putting a huge dent in their farm system.
Tate was up to 98 mph in college with a very promising slider, and while his changeup came along this spring and the Rangers calmed down some of the superfluous elements of his delivery, his velocity has dropped badly this year. I’m not sure he can be a starter if he's pitching with only a solid-average fastball. Tate was the fourth overall pick in 2015 -- the Rangers nearly took Trenton Clark, now with Milwaukee -- so this is a big letdown given the perceived value he had out of UC Santa Barbara.
The Yankees also received Erik Swanson, an arm-strength guy who's been up to 98 but is 22 in low A and has been facing a lot of younger competition.
They did well for themselves and it's a marked change of strategy, one they needed. Personally I think their haul is being a bit overrated here, but that's mostly because IMHO once you gets outside top 20-25 prospect rankings (which are obv not scientific, but to use as a barometer) probability starts to take a swift decline, especially when the guys are so young and in A ball, which is mostly what Cashman got. This is why i, personally, was fine with the Espinoza trade and would have been fine seeing Devers moved for the right piece.Anyone care to guess who has the highest salaried starting nine tonight?
and thats without ARod cracking the line up.
Maybe Cashman & Co can stop patting themselves on the back for a second.
I'm pretty sure the impact to this year's payroll wasn't a priority. Weird criticism.Anyone care to guess who has the highest salaried starting nine tonight?
and thats without ARod cracking the line up.
Maybe Cashman & Co can stop patting themselves on the back for a second.
This is pretty on point for me. I'm more excited about the direction and potential than any one particular prospect. Cashman has done well with trades recently.They did well for themselves and it's a marked change of strategy, one they needed. Personally I think their haul is being a bit overrated here, but that's mostly because IMHO once you gets outside top 20-25 prospect rankings (which are obv not scientific, but to use as a barometer) probability starts to take a swift decline, especially when the guys are so young and in A ball, which is mostly what Cashman got. This is why i, personally, was fine with the Espinoza trade and would have been fine seeing Devers moved for the right piece.
All that being said, the Yankees had a very nice week for themselves. I find the projections of the 2019 starting lineup having just been acquired funny, but I don't think anyone really believes that anyway.
If he didn't have the warts he has had this year, there is now way in hell they would have been able to get him for just two months of 40-year old.KLaw on the deal
if he finds his fastball it's a nice pickup. If not, well...
I hear ya, and I saw over in the Trade Deadline game thread saying that the Yankees don't have the really top end pieces that the Red Sox have (Betts, X, Moncada...) and while that very well may be true that does not mean at all that the Yankees can't build a pretty terrific core with the quantity of prospects they have now. Heck, the Royals didn't really have superstar player when they won the World Series and the same can probably be said about the Giants the year before (outside of Baumgarner's left arm).They did well for themselves and it's a marked change of strategy, one they needed. Personally I think their haul is being a bit overrated here, but that's mostly because IMHO once you gets outside top 20-25 prospect rankings (which are obv not scientific, but to use as a barometer) probability starts to take a swift decline, especially when the guys are so young and in A ball, which is mostly what Cashman got. This is why i, personally, was fine with the Espinoza trade and would have been fine seeing Devers moved for the right piece.
I agree. While they may not be superstars there is a lot to be said for establishing a nice, strong lineup and staff that is just solid. Augment that with free agent acquisitions and a team like the Yankees, with few financial bottlenecks, will have a hard time getting out bid for any free agentI hear ya, and I saw over in the Trade Deadline game thread saying that the Yankees don't have the really top end pieces that the Red Sox have (Betts, X, Moncada...) and while that very well may be true that does not mean at all that the Yankees can't build a pretty terrific core with the quantity of prospects they have now. Heck, the Royals didn't really have superstar player when they won the World Series and the same can probably be said about the Giants the year before (outside of Baumgarner's left arm).
You don't really need superstars these days to win the World Series and to be perennial contenders for it. But if you can build a very deep and productive core of talent, the Yankees will be able to build around that.
Like crow said, what is really exciting here is finally the change of direction the organization is taking.
They did really well for themselves at the trade deadline. It may turn out to be the greatest haul ever or it may just be a bunch of good pieces, but there's no question they did extremely well.Like crow said, what is really exciting here is finally the change of direction the organization is taking.