What other creative options do they have with Pablo at this point? Its either they put him on the 25 man or DFA him correct?
I think this ends up overstating DD's aggressiveness some (maybe if you tacked on another year of control with Donaldson).In the hypothetical not going to happen category, I wonder if DD would consider moving Devers for 1.5 seasons of Donaldson. I wouldn't do it, and in-division trades of any magnitude are very rare.
But it's the type of move DD does, and it maximizes this window we have with Sale, Price and all this cheap young talent.
Does he get the head start?He could be the new "The Freeze".
Come up with a fake injury to restart the rehab time and give him a few more weeks to see if he can play AAA baseball and see if some team will take him if we eat 99% of the contractWhat other creative options do they have with Pablo at this point? Its either they put him on the 25 man or DFA him correct?
He did ops .429 against them last year and was generally not hitting well until this year.Lin had no career L/R split in the minors and this year had identical slash lines vs L and R in the minors. This is only true if you say Lin doesn't hit righties well either.
Right, but every year prior he hit lefties better. I don't think we know if he can hit lefties or not since prior to this year, he didn't hit at all.He did ops .429 against them last year and was generally not hitting well until this year.
I am reminded of a scene from Harry Potter where the kids learn that Snape is going to referee a quidditch match and someone suggests Harry pretend to break his arm and Ron says, "Really break your arm."What other creative options do they have with Pablo at this point? Its either they put him on the 25 man or DFA him correct?
LegI am reminded of a scene from Harry Potter where the kids learn that Snape is going to referee a quidditch match and someone suggests Harry pretend to break his arm and Ron says, "Really break your arm."
Why particularly is the bolded an issue? Benintendi didn't play a single game in AAA only last year. Is it an age thing? Devers is two years younger than AB was last year, so I can see that potentially being a factor. Their AA numbers are really quite similar with Devers higher in Ks but also higher in power.On the Devers front, I have a hard time thinking they're considering him as a serious option without calling him up to the bucket yet. I think he is at best a plan B for September and the playoff roster if Plan A doesn't work out. Mind you, plan A is about three or four different internal plans with who knows how many external options so Devers is clearly Plan X.
Devers has been taken off the AA roster, but is currently listed as inactive. Basically, he's not on any roster from what I can tell. Which means they're about to make a decision to get rid of someone from the AAA roster and move him up. I just don't know who is going, and why they're waiting.Why particularly is the bolded an issue? Benintendi didn't play a single game in AAA only last year. Is it an age thing? Devers is two years younger than AB was last year, so I can see that potentially being a factor. Their AA numbers are really quite similar with Devers higher in Ks but also higher in power.
The other factor I suppose is defense. Benintendi being a plus fielder (which shouldn't change significantly on the jump to MLB) his defense could carry any potential struggles with the bat whereas Devers defense less able to carry a struggling bat (if he were to struggle on the jump).
He played in the All Star Futures game this weekend so he wasn't with the minor league team and AAA has their All Star game tonight.why they're waiting.
Nah, that makes too much sense. That's what they want you to think.He played in the All Star Futures game this weekend so he wasn't with the minor league team and AAA has their All Star game tonight.
Benintendi also played college ball and essentially just tore through the system adjusting to every new level quickly and excelling in short order.Why particularly is the bolded an issue? Benintendi didn't play a single game in AAA only last year. Is it an age thing? Devers is two years younger than AB was last year, so I can see that potentially being a factor. Their AA numbers are really quite similar with Devers higher in Ks but also higher in power.
The other factor I suppose is defense. Benintendi being a plus fielder (which shouldn't change significantly on the jump to MLB) his defense could carry any potential struggles with the bat whereas Devers defense less able to carry a struggling bat (if he were to struggle on the jump).
He's playing in the AA all star game as I type this. I don't think he'll be going back to Portland.He played in the All Star Futures game this weekend so he wasn't with the minor league team and AAA has their All Star game tonight.
I don't remember a player being on the inactive list during a minor league all-star game before, but I probably haven't paid that close attention to it. Don't see why they'd take him off the roster if he wasn't moving up.He's playing in the AA all star game as I type this. I don't think he'll be going back to Portland.
I think another factor here is that Benintendi is likely only a year away - perhaps even a mid/late season call-up like Conforto last year (as cited by Keith Law). .
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/start-sit-trade-play-along-with-dave.10955/page-18#post-1581306He's played 19 games above Lowell. Saying he's likely only a year away is a tad aggressive don't you think?
Well it does happen, rarely.Benintendi also played college ball and essentially just tore through the system adjusting to every new level quickly and excelling in short order.
Devers is younger, didn't play in college, and has had some legitimate struggles this season. I would want--and I think they would want--him to have some time to adjust at the next level where he's going to face a fair number of guys who are borderline major league caliber. If he can hit them, he'll get a chance with the big club in September.
I could be wrong, he could join the big club on Friday.
Thanks. I looked at the box score for that game and somehow totally missed his name. I'd be shocked if he isn't with the PawSox for their game tomorrow, and I think part of the reason he wasn't promoted sooner is that the AA manager is apparently a defensive guru and they wanted him to have as much time as possible with him as that's the main area of his game that will determine when he can stick at the major league level.He's playing in the AA all star game as I type this. I don't think he'll be going back to Portland.
Everything happens eventually.February, 2016:
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/start-sit-trade-play-along-with-dave.10955/page-18#post-1581306
July, 2017:
Well it does happen, rarely.
Shane Stant is still out of jail, right?I am reminded of a scene from Harry Potter where the kids learn that Snape is going to referee a quidditch match and someone suggests Harry pretend to break his arm and Ron says, "Really break your arm."
On the Devers front, I have a hard time thinking they're considering him as a serious option without calling him up to the bucket yet. I think he is at best a plan B for September and the playoff roster if Plan A doesn't work out. Mind you, plan A is about three or four different internal plans with who knows how many external options so Devers is clearly Plan X.
I think this is probably most likely. Peralta looks like a non-factor, but I can see Pablo getting one more shot with a very short leash. The stabilization of the defense at third has really stabilized the overall team defense and they're not going to mess with that for long. Otherwise, ride it out with Lin/Holt/Marrero and see how Devers does in AAA. If he seems ready, offensively and defensively, give him a shot in September. Spending assets for a third baseman at this point seems ill-advised.Shane Stant is still out of jail, right?
I have to agree with this. Devers is the last option in the pile, so they are likely to go through Pablo (quickly please), Peralta (maybe skip this one), and Holt (hopefully) before Devers. Let's hope Tzu-Devin Linrrero exceeds all of our expectations and delays/skips some of these options until rosters expand.
It depends on the assets.I think this is probably most likely. Peralta looks like a non-factor, but I can see Pablo getting one more shot with a very short leash. The stabilization of the defense at third has really stabilized the overall team defense and they're not going to mess with that for long. Otherwise, ride it out with Lin/Holt/Marrero and see how Devers does in AAA. If he seems ready, offensively and defensively, give him a shot in September. Spending assets for a third baseman at this point seems ill-advised.
Anyone checked lately if this guy's available?
I believe he was on the Temporary Inactive List because of being in the Futures Game on Sunday - a day his team was playing. That allowed Portland to add another player in his roster spot for the game.I don't remember a player being on the inactive list during a minor league all-star game before, but I probably haven't paid that close attention to it. Don't see why they'd take him off the roster if he wasn't moving up.
Fleshy part of the thigh?Creative options for the Panda? Sounds like its own thread!
"The Sloth", where he gets the head start over the fan.He could be the new "The Freeze".
Any time spent in together the Pawsox clubhouse will be fleeting since Sandoval has to be recalled from the minors by Monday.It's probably dumb and irrational... but I have a nagging worry that Panda could be a bad influence on Devers. Something about players on the downsides of their careers around young players on the upswing (and clearly taking their place) interracting always has me worried.
Probably means he's hanging around for a while.And in the "it must mean something" vein, Tsu-Wei Lin has changed his number from 73 to 5.
If he retires, the Red Sox no longer have to pay him. So as long as he's an "active" player looking for work, he'll get his money. Even if no team is willing to sign him. Of course, SOMEONE will take a chance on him.I'd of been more impressed with DD if this had happened before now, but better late then never I guess.
So if/when the speculated return to SF falls flat, and if/when he ends up officially retiring before the start of next season, would he still be counting towards the LT hit?
My bad, I was overlooking the simple aspect that guys forfeit their salary rights on retirement.If he retires, the Red Sox no longer have to pay him. So as long as he's an "active" player looking for work, he'll get his money. Even if no team is willing to sign him. Of course, SOMEONE will take a chance on him.
Why?Of course, SOMEONE will take a chance on him.
Even if he makes the roster, the Sox are on the hook for his contract. If he isn't traded for and refuses his assignment, it's over. He's a free agent, the Sox are paying his full contract and he can latch on anywhere he wants for league minimum while still cashing his 19 million per year.Well, surely he'll get a spring training invite somewhere, but that won't help the salary situation unless he makes the roster.