Nice for seeding, but I prefer playing teams at full strength. Feel like it forces better habits as opposed to playing down.Celtics get the Raptors on Dec 25th and 28th
Gasol, Siakam, Powell probably out?
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/19/nba-boston-celtics-toronto-raptors-christmas-day-marc-pascal-siakam-norman-powell-marc-gasol-out/
In today's NBA, we don't see as much of that as you would think. Brad's already said that after the new year, we'll start resting players.In terms of realistic deals out there right now, I’m most interested
Nice for seeding, but I prefer playing teams at full strength. Feel like it forces better habits as opposed to playing down.
Another scheduling quirk, Toronto is the only above .500 team they play over the next 10 games.Nice for seeding, but I prefer playing teams at full strength. Feel like it forces better habits as opposed to playing down.
Yeah, with the way the schedule and the East are breaking (Toronto hurt, Philly inconsistent, Indy without Victor), I'm inclined now to go for it a bit more in the regular season to get the #2 seed. There's real value in putting off the Milwaukee matchup as long as possible, and also hoping that Milwaukee/Philly have to meet in round 2.Another scheduling quirk, Toronto is the only above .500 team they play over the next 10 games.
30 wins is in play at the halfway mark.
Load up on wins now, so they can selectively rest players in the 2nd half of the season
agreed, Poeltl is my trade binky right now. VP/ Charlotte 2nd-rounder would be a nice deal for the Spurs for their back-up Center, who is an RFA at seasons end. Milwaukee pick? that may be a bridge too far. I can't imagine any other NBA team would offer a first for PoeltlWhat do people think it would take in terms of draft assets to get Poeltl from San Antonio? His salary matches with Poirier.
The East will be bunched up from seed 2-6. Load up on wins now so guys can rest weeks before the playoffs. Drawing the 7th seed (Nets?) in round 1 instead of getting a Pacer, Raptors or Heat team would be helpful.I know it seems sort of cheap, but I'm relishing the potential opportunity of beating Toronto twice over the next week or so while they are hurt and getting an advantage in that head to head matchup for seeding.
I know home court isn't the be all and end all, but the Celtics do seem to play better at home and home games are just more fun as a fan. So, I appreciate winning during the regular season. So, let's hope the C's can go on a bit of a run here against these weaker opponents.
Interesting, I'd be totally fine giving up a late 1st for Poeltl with the intention of re-signing him at around $5-7M/year.agreed, Poeltl is my trade binky right now. VP/ Charlotte 2nd-rounder would be a nice deal for the Spurs for their back-up Center, who is an RFA at seasons end. Milwaukee pick? that may be a bridge too far. I can't imagine any other NBA team would offer a first for Poeltl
Poeltl would be a good third wheel for a 3-headed Center monster. Brad has a knack for getting the most out guys like him. He's very efficient according to ON/OFF, ORtg/DRtg, DBPM, RPM. He's 7'1", young (24), with playoff experience. As we saw last season, all it takes is a few injuries to some key players (KD/Klay) and Championship aspirations can come true for a top 5 team (Toronto).
Plus a Kanter or Theis injury would cripple the Celtics this season. Counting on TL being healthy is a fools errand at this point IMO.
Also, Poeltl is a potential cheap signable option in the off-season. Even though there is a dearth of free agents this summer, teams aren't looking to spend big on 5s that play 15-20mpg. I could see teams ignoring Poleltl in restricted free agency (similar to Marcus Smart). The new NBA market inefficiency is cheap, veteran 5s. Load up on several of them at $5MM/each.
I've moved off Nerens Noel. OKC is playing well enough to not move him. He doesn't really have the bulk. Boston area issues? That being said, I'd still grab him if Poleltl isn't available and a 2nd is all it took for NN.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/poeltja01.html
the spread between Milwaukee 1st-rounder and the 2nd rounder is pretty thin. Its more semantics, right?Interesting, I'd be totally fine giving up a late 1st for Poeltl with the intention of re-signing him at around $5-7M/year.
2nd rounder is the worse of Knicks/Nets, so it'll be around 45-50. Turning late 1sts into roleplayers is generally a meh, but the 2020 Celtics are a special case in that regard.the spread between Milwaukee 1st-rounder and the 2nd rounder is pretty thin. Its more semantics, right?
San Antonio looks bad enough after the Kawhi deal, it may take the headline of grabbing a first-rounder and a Euro player for Poeltl for them to stomach it.
ugh, I thought they were getting the Knicks 2nd rounder. I stand corrected. That's quite a bit different.2nd rounder is the worse of Knicks/Nets, so it'll be around 45-50. Turning late 1sts into roleplayers is generally a meh, but the 2020 Celtics are a special case in that regard.
Young centers in RFA really aren't getting paid. Sabonis is good as hell and didn't even get Ryan Anderson money (He really should have waited imo: Atlanta would have paid him). Looney got about 5 per, and that was before the injuries started.ugh, I thought they were getting the Knicks 2nd rounder. I stand corrected. That's quite a bit different.
If Danny had an inkling the free agency element played out at $5-7MM/per its justifiable. nighthob will probably spoil it with a Poeltl is getting 4yrs/$60MM and blow up that whole thesis
The Celtics are loaded to the rafters with young players developing and future picks. Losing a late first-rounder for the 2020 season for a role player is somewhat justifiable but makes me want to wait until January.
off-tangent, there was a rush of guys signing at the end there (Murray, Hield, Sabonis Brown). It makes me wonder if the Player Agents got queasy with whispers of the China situation hurting the 2020 cap.Young centers in RFA really aren't getting paid. Sabonis is good as hell and didn't even get Ryan Anderson money (He really should have waited imo: Atlanta would have paid him). Looney got about 5 per, and that was before the injuries started.
This will be even funnier when he's unceremoniously traded as the salary attached to a pick for a Poeltl-type.
Yeah, makes sense. I watched Toronto’s comeback against Dallas, and it was triggered by a lot of gimmicky full court press and a bit of zone. Good ball-handling and quickness will be important.Waters will be active for game tomorrow, Tacko will not. Stevens wants Waters quickness.
smart move bringing up Waters.Yeah, makes sense. I watched Toronto’s comeback against Dallas, and it was triggered by a lot of gimmicky full court press and a bit of zone. Good ball-handling and quickness will be important.
With so much turnover in the offseason and the C's outperforming the most optimistic of preseason projections, I'd expect they don't do anything drastic (or bizarre like trading for Love/TT).Watching this game is making me less inclined to want the Celts to trade for a center. Milwaukee has all the beef you want to match up with Embiid, and it just doesn't matter. You need speed, help at the right times, and good rotations to beat him imo. You need Marcus Smart.
One dimensional scorer wouldn't really fill a need.It seems kouzma is a good player.
Ugh, I meant that for the NBA game thread. I completely agree that the Celts have no need for him.One dimensional scorer wouldn't really fill a need.
If the Cs need more wing depth then it's literally impossible to have enough. Hayward has been every bit as good as them, missed 16 games, and they went 12-4. Smart's missed 8 and they're 6-2. No team in the league has more wing depth than them.The one article out recently was talking about the Celtics needing further wing depth, because "what if the Celtics lost Brown or Tatum?" Well, if they lost one of those guys, their championship hopes are toast. So, I agree, some modest depth at center would be helpful - because I'd hate for this group to have a lost year because Theis or Kanter got hurt.
That was Hollinger's piece and his reasoning made zero sense. You make in-season trades to fill a need or to upgrade a position......Hollinger wrote sentence after sentence of drivel while addressing neither.The one article out recently was talking about the Celtics needing further wing depth, because "what if the Celtics lost Brown or Tatum?" Well, if they lost one of those guys, their championship hopes are toast. So, I agree, some modest depth at center would be helpful - because I'd hate for this group to have a lost year because Theis or Kanter got hurt.
Probably trying to nab some vacation viewers.Why in the world is tomorrow's game at 4pm?
The Celtics and the Bucks are interesting to me, because I don't quite buy that their net ratings are representative of what they are in the playoffs, and in certain matchups in particular. In the Bucks' case, it's because running up against one Giannis-stopper completely takes them out of their identity. With the Celtics it feels like they have too many moving parts, all of which have to be humming just right.
They're both going to pile up a lot of wins though, because the regular season net ratings are for real. They both stomp lesser teams, hard.
If SexPants is a metonym for regular season net rating teams, I approve.
I didn't know that Richard Starkey played for the Celtics. Maybe he's just visiting.
I would say 2014 Spurs. At that point, 38 year-old Duncan was no longer a top 10 player and don’t think 22 year-old Kawhi had reached that level just yet.I think it’s safe to say that the Celts don’t have a Top-10 in the NBA player. But might it also be true that they have four or even 5 in the top 50 or so?
Is that enough to win it all?
What was the last team without a top-10 player to win it all? The 2004 Pistons?
Tony Parker was 2nd Team all-NBA.I would say 2014 Spurs. At that point, 38 year-old Duncan was no longer a top 10 player and don’t think 22 year-old Kawhi had reached that level just yet.
Parker was great player but he’s never been a top 10 player in the league. I think the 2014 Spurs are the model for these Celtics.Tony Parker was 2nd Team all-NBA.
So technically, . . .
Hence my ellipsis...Parker was great player but he’s never been a top 10 player in the league. I think the 2014 Spurs are the model for these Celtics.
Yes but 22 year old KL was finals MVP over at least a couple players who were considered Top-10.I would say 2014 Spurs. At that point, 38 year-old Duncan was no longer a top 10 player and don’t think 22 year-old Kawhi had reached that level just yet.
He was definitely emerging but not yet a Top 10 player. Either way, I think this is the model. A bunch of top 20-40 guys and strong role players. Celtics bench might need one more veteran piece.Yes but 22 year old KL was finals MVP over at least a couple players who were considered Top-10.
Ben Wallace was 2nd Team all-NBA.Not that the Celtics particularly resemble them, but did the 03-04 Pistons have a top 10 player?
Yeah, Kawhi wasn't a top-10 player himself (not a primary scorer yet), but he was able to effectively turn other top-10 players into non top-10 players with his defense. That's a model the Celtics can definitely try to emulate.He was definitely emerging but not yet a Top 10 player. Either way, I think this is the model. A bunch of top 20-40 guys and strong role players. Celtics bench might need one more veteran piece.