2021 Celtics LVSL Game Thread

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I mean, it's good that he works hard... but this is literally their job & even guys like Edwards are making $1.5m to do it.

I make a fraction of that & I was in the office this morning by 4:15 - albeit admittedly writing legal briefs & posting here is a bit easier than NBA workouts.
 

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I mean, it's good that he works hard... but this is literally their job & even guys like Edwards are making $1.5m to do it.

I make a fraction of that & I was in the office this morning by 4:15 - albeit admittedly writing legal briefs & posting here is a bit easier than NBA workouts.
Well you get paid by the hour.
 

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Honestly he didn’t look any different. I don’t think his problem was scoring with three dribbles he just isn’t a good enough shooter right now. I don’t know more than him about what the Celtics are asking him to improve but it’s strange to me he wasn’t focusing almost exclusively on shooting. His path in the league is likely as a bench sniper but right now he’s a bench sniper who can’t snipe. It seems like he wants to be more like a Lou Williams or something but at his size I just don’t see it.

It’s awesome that he’s worked hard, not having a go at him at all and presumably the Celtics are asking him to do some of these things. Just seems like a strange fit to me
This is really the issue. The poor guy just needs to find his jump shot again. He seems to have even improved as a slasher, but the three-pointer has completely abandoned him.
 

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It's amazing how hard these guys work; even end of rotation guys. I'm disappointed that his shooting hasn't flashed in SL but I'm still rooting for him. Like HRB, I think there's a NBA player in there but the most likely scenario is that it will take a few years and a few teams to unlock it.
These guys are working harder. He would have zero chance to stick if he didn't work this hard. The competition to be one of those guys is so incredibly intense. Everyone of these guys will be managing a chronic overuse injury of some kind.

The pro team I worked with was guys who were trying to get a chance to be in that spot, or had given up on it and were working their way up FIBA leagues. Most of my job was to help them with individual workouts. If you see coaches whipping passes underhand to players it is because we get worn out making several thousand passes a day, and can get our own injuries if we snap every chest pass, etc.. I could easily have spent 12 hours in the gym, there were guys wanting to work. As a staff we divided it up.

The crazy thing is we assume an NBA end of rotation guy can jet off to Europe for good money, if NBA doesn't work out. But, it isn't that easy. As we see by the olympics, international guys can play, and FIBA ball is different. There are guys all over europe putting in the same hours. If I return to that league (It's a FIBA league) I will advocate strongly against G-league, NCAA free agents, for our American roster spots, and look for veteran FIBA guys who know how to score in that game.
 

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Honestly he didn’t look any different. I don’t think his problem was scoring with three dribbles he just isn’t a good enough shooter right now. I don’t know more than him about what the Celtics are asking him to improve but it’s strange to me he wasn’t focusing almost exclusively on shooting. His path in the league is likely as a bench sniper but right now he’s a bench sniper who can’t snipe. It seems like he wants to be more like a Lou Williams or something but at his size I just don’t see it.

It’s awesome that he’s worked hard, not having a go at him at all and presumably the Celtics are asking him to do some of these things. Just seems like a strange fit to me
This is really the issue. The poor guy just needs to find his jump shot again. He seems to have even improved as a slasher, but the three-pointer has completely abandoned him.
Edwards was never just a shooter in college - he was a scorer, even when facing double-teams or other kinds of gimmick defenses. The fact that he had deep range opened up the floor for him but the fact that he was able to finish at the rim opened up his jumper.

He was never a catch-and-shoot guy. He was - is - defend me at 26 feet, and I'll go by you but if you don't defender me at 26 feet. That's a tough way to play if the ball isn't in his hands a lot, which it isn't. He wasn't terribly efficient but he was effective in college.

So he's working on being more consistent with the shots he might get using the Cs sets. That's a good thing. Despite this, as repeated often here and elsewhere, he certainly doesn't look a rotation player right now, which is too bad.

But he can score at all three levels, which is a trait that the NBA values. And it looks like he can get his shot pretty much whenever he wants. He just needs to make something consistently. I think he needs to pull up inside the arc more often as he seems like that's probably his most consistent half-court shot right now but what do I know. Once he starts hitting something consistently, the other shots will come IMO. Of course, he might have to learn that overseas.
 

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Edwards was never just a shooter in college - he was a scorer, even when facing double-teams or other kinds of gimmick defenses. The fact that he had deep range opened up the floor for him but the fact that he was able to finish at the rim opened up his jumper.

He was never a catch-and-shoot guy. He was - is - defend me at 26 feet, and I'll go by you but if you don't defender me at 26 feet. That's a tough way to play if the ball isn't in his hands a lot, which it isn't. He wasn't terribly efficient but he was effective in college.

So he's working on being more consistent with the shots he might get using the Cs sets. That's a good thing. Despite this, as repeated often here and elsewhere, he certainly doesn't look a rotation player right now, which is too bad.

But he can score at all three levels, which is a trait that the NBA values. And it looks like he can get his shot pretty much whenever he wants. He just needs to make something consistently. I think he needs to pull up inside the arc more often as he seems like that's probably his most consistent half-court shot right now but what do I know. Once he starts hitting something consistently, the other shots will come IMO. Of course, he might have to learn that overseas.
I was going to make an almost identical post earlier but jumped in the shower to get to the poker room instead. Great points throughout. He needs to figure out how to use his quickness and shotmaking skills to slow the game down. I’ve said it before but these things take time and usually requires bouncing around the league for awhile.
 

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Me as well. Fun team to watch and fun to read about. Thanks for posting the article.

I was struck the other night that Arin Holman, who is 6'9", confidently stepped into what had to be a 29' 3P shot and nailed it. And then nailed another one after that.

He's 6'9", supposed to be a great athlete, shot 43+% on 3Ps in college, and looks to have some range. Interesting package that maybe he can show off in the G-League.
 

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Me as well. Fun team to watch and fun to read about. Thanks for posting the article.

I was struck the other night that Arin Holman, who is 6'9", confidently stepped into what had to be a 29' 3P shot and nailed it. And then nailed another one after that.

He's 6'9", supposed to be a great athlete, shot 43+% on 3Ps in college, and looks to have some range. Interesting package that maybe he can show off in the G-League.
Try and find tape on his 1H of the first game. He has one skill and zero understanding of anything defense. He was the sole reason we were trailing in the 1H of that game with 4-5 blatant missed rotations where he wasn’t even considering sliding over.
 

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Try and find tape on his 1H of the first game. He has one skill and zero understanding of anything defense. He was the sole reason we were trailing in the 1H of that game with 4-5 blatant missed rotations where he wasn’t even considering sliding over.
Was that him or someone else? I wasn't really following who was playing in that first game.

At any rate, the SL games are available on replay on nba.com if people are interested. If I have 30 minutes to burn, maybe I'll go back and watch.

(narrator: he won't).
 

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Was that him or someone else? I wasn't really following who was playing in that first game.

At any rate, the SL games are available on replay on nba.com if people are interested. If I have 30 minutes to burn, maybe I'll go back and watch.

(narrator: he won't).
It was him. I posted on this from that game. Probably on first page of this thread, maybe second
 

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The deeper we get into this summer league, the longer these games seem to last.
 

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The deeper we get into this summer league, the longer these games seem to last.
It was another OT game in front of ours that pushed back the start time. I think the number is 7% of NBA games that reach OT. A quick search would show what this summers number is but I’d guess it is double that or just below.
 

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Really nice to see Romeo confidently shooting 3s. I haven’t been super impressed with him in SL but his shot has definitely looked at least credible
 

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Nice to see Romeo's outside shot falling. Playing with the Jays, he should get a lot of open looks.
 

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Ah yeah. With Pritchard and Maxey out people must have been all over the under.
 

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Begarin can certainly finish in transition, and that was a great decision by Auguste.
 

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I knew as soon as Carsen took that inbounds pass he was heading all the way down the court and taking the final shot. A bit of a ball hog.
 

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I think Boston clearly has more talent in this game, but it's missing the flow (and dominance?) of the last two. More of a normal summer league experience.
 

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These announcers, especially Sam Mitchell, are horrible.

Too bad Mader couldn’t go today. Celtics look like a team playing without a PG.
 

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I think Boston clearly has more talent in this game, but it's missing the flow (and dominance?) of the last two. More of a normal summer league experience.
The Celtics are missing PP but I think they still pull this one out.
 

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These announcers, especially Sam Mitchell, are horrible.

Too bad Mader couldn’t go today. Celtics look like a team playing without a PG.
All of these announcers must think they're getting paid by the word. It's OK to let the game speak for itself occasionally.