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BusRaker

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Evan went 14 for 14 in the playoffs and tied the record for most FGs in the playoffs.(Vinitari was 14 for 15 one year) 6 for 6 on XPs too.

Tough to be better that perfect.
It one thing to be good when it counts, but a whole 'nother to be good in practice
 
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Interesting. I’d take him at the right price.
2 years, 24 mil? Apparently the knock on him is he wasn't showing up enough in big games, so maybe BB can change that. Would be cool to get him and so not have to use a top draft choice on a receiver - plus he's still only 27
 

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2 years, 24 mil? Apparently the knock on him is he wasn't showing up enough in big games, so maybe BB can change that. Would be cool to get him and so not have to use a top draft choice on a receiver - plus he's still only 27
Will take way more than that, I think. He did disappear a decent amount this year but some of that may just be due to being on a stacked team. He also seems to get a lot ot soft tissue injuries, which would concern me.
 

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Bengals ST coach upset McPherson watched the halftime show, says he needs to be a better kicker ... in practice

“He needs to become a better practice kicker and kick better than he has,” Simmons said. “Not that it’s poor, but I think for him to be elite and go over the top, he’s got to kick better in practice and learn new things.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/04/bengals-evan-mcpherson-super-bowl-halftime-show-darrin-simmons-special-teams-coach-sore-subject
It sounds dumb, but it's pretty standard coach-speak to keep a young kid grounded and getting better. It's obviously tough to be much better than he was, but there's always room for improvement. And it's not like Simmons is some hotshot coach trying to make a name for himself with a catchy quote - he's the longest-tenured ST coordinator in the league by a wide margin (and it's not a Marvin Lewis situation) and produced some pretty good units the last decade-plus without a big-legged kicker until this year.
 

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2 years, 24 mil? Apparently the knock on him is he wasn't showing up enough in big games, so maybe BB can change that. Would be cool to get him and so not have to use a top draft choice on a receiver - plus he's still only 27
Any word on how he performed in practice though?
 

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But he likely had access to inside info, no?
Inside info, friends/teammates playing. It is a huge deal.
I mean yeah, I get why he shouldn't be doing it and why it's against the rules, but I can't drum up any OMG WHAT AN OUTRAGE type of take. Would definitely be interested to see what specific bets he made though. Was he betting on Falcons games? Other games? Was it player / prop bets, or outcomes / O/Us, etc.? These types of details make a difference in terms of how bad this is, IMO.
 

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I mean yeah, I get why he shouldn't be doing it and why it's against the rules, but I can't drum up any OMG WHAT AN OUTRAGE type of take. Would definitely be interested to see what specific bets he made though. Was he betting on Falcons games? Other games? Was it player / prop bets, or outcomes / O/Us, etc.? These types of details make a difference in terms of how bad this is, IMO.
They were parlays.

View: https://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith/status/1500936972851892226?s=20&t=Hi2zrbCEmlcWkGvUQ4JhxQ
 

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Yeah this is what I was thinking. If he's betting on the outcome of non-Falcons games, it doesn't really damage the "integrity of the game" very much IMO. Whatever, the league has to do this in terms of setting a precedent, but I really don't give a shit.

Edit: Per Ridley's twitter, he bet $1,500 total. What a dumb, dumb move on his part. Cost himself an entire season's salary for no good reason other than he was bored not playing.
 
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Fair play to Atlanta

Honestly, they kind of had to do that, unless they wanted to be considered persona non grata to the entire NFL

If they didn't and ended up trading him the NFL would have voided the trade once the suspension was announced and nobody would ever trade with them (ATL) again


View: https://twitter.com/CalvinRidley1/status/1500939522632302594
 

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Not clear the NFL, or any major league, has a plan to address this. If it’s done directly like in Ridley’s case, it might be easy to detect. But there have to be more sophisticated schemes going on and league offices will have no idea.
 

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I am pretty sure these sports leagues tell players over and over again you cannot bet. You can argue it's a bad rule but it is pretty fucking clear. They don't want their players gambling on their sport.
 

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Probably the last thing on anyone's mind, but as Matty Ice and the Falcons are my second favorite team, does anyone think the league will give them any salary cap relief form this situation. They are in cap jail and could use some help.
 

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So? This statement could probably be made of 50-100 other ex Bama players who aren’t in the NFL. Are they banned from gambling too?
What exactly is your pushback here? NFL players are not allowed to gamble on NFL games. He did. Who are you arguing against?
 

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What exactly is your pushback here? NFL players are not allowed to gamble on NFL games. He did. Who are you arguing against?
Again, I get why you can't bet on the NFL if you play in the NFL. It was a ridiculously dumb move on his part. I just don't see it as a big deal in terms of this particular case.
 

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Probably the last thing on anyone's mind, but as Matty Ice and the Falcons are my second favorite team, does anyone think the league will give them any salary cap relief form this situation. They are in cap jail and could use some help.
His contract tolls and his $11.116 million salary will come off Atlanta's books this season

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1500933270669774848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1500933270669774848%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.atlantafalcons.com%2Fnews%2Fwhat-calvin-ridley-suspension-means-for-the-falcons-salary-cap-situation
 

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A year’s suspension is pretty harsh, but the NFL had little choice.

They had to make the penalty bordering on absurd to discourage it from other players, because without actual competitive integrity, football is the WWE.
 

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There was a Cardinals cornerback Josh Shaw who gambled on a few games and was suspended in November 2019 and reinstated in March 2021. This is how it works and the players are fully aware that this is how it works. It’s not that complicated. The NFL feels strongly that it reduces the integrity of the sport if employees gamble on the outcome of games.

edit- I am pretty confident the suspension would be similar for a similar offense in MLB
 

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So? This statement could probably be made of 50-100 other ex Bama players who aren’t in the NFL. Are they banned from gambling too?
But he wasn't "not in the NFL." He was just on the injured list. I realize the statement from the NFL says "he was away from the team, he didn't use inside information," but honestly, does anyone expect the "Shield" would tell us the truth and risk the image of the NFL and it's integrity as a competitive sport by saying "Yeah, he bet on games, he talked to his teammates and other NFL players all the time, and he may or may not have funneled money to buddies of his based on the results of his bets?"

I hate slippery slope arguments, but allowing current players/coaches/staff to bet on games without consequences (and serious ones at that) is the slope that ends professional sports.
 

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Not clear the NFL, or any major league, has a plan to address this. If it’s done directly like in Ridley’s case, it might be easy to detect. But there have to be more sophisticated schemes going on and league offices will have no idea.
It's probably much easier to detect today than it was before gambling started being legalized. Before you could just go to a bookie and easily go undetected. The NFL is never going to be able to stop a player who REALLY wants to gamble on the NFL and, given they have never had to to this point, I don't think they need to. There's only so much they can do without becoming big brother.
 

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But he wasn't "not in the NFL." He was just on the injured list. I realize the statement from the NFL says "he was away from the team, he didn't use inside information," but honestly, does anyone expect the "Shield" would tell us the truth and risk the image of the NFL and it's integrity as a competitive sport by saying "Yeah, he bet on games, he talked to his teammates and other NFL players all the time, and he may or may not have funneled money to buddies of his based on the results of his bets?"

I hate slippery slope arguments, but allowing current players/coaches/staff to bet on games without consequences (and serious ones at that) is the slope that ends professional sports.
Oh I’m in complete agreement. It is definitely a valid slippery slope argument.
 

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What is an example where betting on your own team to win can lead to doing something that would impact the integrity of the game?