1/8 - Indy 2: Electric Boogaloo
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I strongly beg to differ and a former NBA referee would agree with me but hey, that's just my opinion
It shouldn't really be interesting. Either the league says the call got blown, or they are lying.
scal was saying it was because they had clear possession on the rebound
which is pretty stupid if true. The whistle blew so you naturally stop playing.
Nah it is this motherfucker in the replay center tonight
https://www.nbra.net/nba-officials/referee-biographies/tyler-ford/
The Celtics insist on just playing on in the last possession, (or what should have been the last possession), as opposed to calling a timeout and setting up a play. This game should have been a Celtics last second win, or overtime.
I guess it’s good that the only time Boston seems to lose is either in OT or the last seconds, but the last piece of the championship puzzle is correctly navigating crunch time. It didn’t get done today, and in almost all the losses this season.
By the logic that there was no foul and you somehow grant Indiana the rebound as if there was no whistle, they shouldn’t also get the benefit of no time coming off the clock at the moment of the whistle. Should run the clock down however long it was in the air if there was no foul.
Not a huge fan of Jaylen's final minute there. Two low percentage takes and if not for the TO he was about to do his pivot fadeaway which isn't exactly a high percentage look either.
No that was the correct call with no Celtic in the area and a direct rebound of the shot.
I refuse to believe that replay overturn was on the up and up. There is no way that an impartial official would look at that and not notice the forearm to the head. That was a full Donaghy.
View: https://twitter.com/NoaDalzellNBA/status/1744551076018245832
Joe Mazzulla says Buddy Hield told him he fouled Jaylen Brown on that last play: “I can’t wait for 4pm tomorrow”
Joe Mazzulla says Buddy Hield told him he fouled Jaylen Brown on that last play: “I can’t wait for 4pm tomorrow”
I think because since it was changed to a play on so if there was possession when the whistle blew that team gets the ball, which the Pacers had
edit @RSN Diaspora disproves the timing of the foul, should 100% been a jump ball
First one was fine. They needed to get a shot off to to have the two for one. And Jaylen was sinking that all night.
The second was disorganized and sloppy. We can't be too mad they didn't bail us out with the foul (even though it was a foul).
The Cs must have numbers, or at least a theory, that giving a team a chance to set defense and sub is more detrimental than getting to organize offensively and draw up a play. I see the logic. It's unconventional. That possession tonight did not do a lot to convince me.
This part is mind-blowing. This is the moment the ref blew the whistle. The ball is circled in orange, and Porzingis (circled in green) is charging toward the rim as Jaylen shoots. He pulls up immediately after the whistle gets blown, as the ball is in the air. Does anyone know the rule on this?
Yep. The only officiating issue I have is the Brown overturn, which is of course the entire game.
Third quarter just wasn't good enough. Too many turnovers. I'll have to go back and look at the defense, but giving up that many points in the second half was no bueno.
Third quarter just wasn't good enough. Too many turnovers. I'll have to go back and look at the defense, but giving up that many points in the second half was no bueno.
Inexcusable. I want to know who made the decision as I thought it went to NJ but others said it was made on the floor by the crew. If it was NJ than kudos to the crew for getting every fuckin call down the stretch correct at game speed....but we lose bc on slo-mo an Indiana native overturned it? Wtf
Has to be NJ right? I’m not saying Tyler Ford had money on the game but the more I think about it the more it bothers me. Something isn’t right here. Beef with the Celtics or Jaylen Brown? That just cannot happen.
The language is "reasonably certain" on who would have gained possession. They got it right as the ball was landing in the hands of the Pacers rebounder with no Celtics in position to challenge it.
I don’t believe that’s the rule—if it is, teams should crazily jump after the ball after every whistle in case there’s a replay reversal.
as I read the rule it is:
If the ball is released on an unsuccessful field goal attempt or is loose when the horn or whistle sounds, the ball will be jumped at center circle between any two opponents in the game.
where are you getting the direct rebound language?
That blown JB call is awful on many levels. But mainly because we can’t rip how dumb it was to
1) shoot with 3+ seconds in a tie game
2) drive east west drifting into the corner against a triple team
3) start to see this development (generously around 7 seconds) and not call time out
There are times you don’t call timeout, but without our main end of game option tonight (JT) there was even more chance of confusion and chaos on that final possession. The fact that nobody on the staff was anticipating that is really disappointing
1) shoot with 3+ seconds in a tie game
2) drive east west drifting into the corner against a triple team
3) start to see this development (generously around 7 seconds) and not call time out
There are times you don’t call timeout, but without our main end of game option tonight (JT) there was even more chance of confusion and chaos on that final possession. The fact that nobody on the staff was anticipating that is really disappointing
other than Porzingis, the tallest guy on the court.
the awarding of possession is honestly even worse than the Brown overrule, which is saying something.
I'd venture that he usually makes that shot when he's under control, which he wasn't when Joe called the TO.
I really wish someone from the Cs would just go scorched earth on the refs in their postgame interview. Wouldn’t do anything for them but it would make me feel better.
I have just become numb/indifferent to Joe not using a TO at the end of games
BUT at this point, CJM needs to start calling a TO, and set up a play to get the ball into KP in the post
JT & JB just want to go ISO in every late/tight situation which leads to inefficient FGA
I read the reasonably certain language as being about triggering a review because it is unclear who had possession. I see nowhere it applies to a loose ball on a reversal of a foul. Only language I see about a loose ball or foul reversal says jump ball.
Am I missing it?
https://official.nba.com/rule-no-13-instant-replay/
Supposedly there was a clear recovery by Indiana.. so as Grandy said on the broadcast.. you basically have to play through the whistle at this point.. because why, as a player, would you try to get the ball after a foul has been called?
Looks like Tyler Ford has a history of ignoring Pacers players hitting Celtics players in the head. Hmm...
yeah but that’s simply not what happened on the court. I mean it is not even remotely close.
I understand that’s what they must have ruled—-I’m just saying—-there’s no basis in the rules or the replay to support it
,I would have liked CJM call out the refs for blowing the call. Get fined.
And then ask where the fuck do they get off handing the game to the Pacers at the free throw line at the buzzer.
Spilled milk but CJM should have kicked over the milk bucket.
And then ask where the fuck do they get off handing the game to the Pacers at the free throw line at the buzzer.
Spilled milk but CJM should have kicked over the milk bucket.
The ruling of a clear recovery means that there is not a reasonable chance of a Celtics having a chance at the rebound. Porzingis was several feet behind the Pacers rebounder as he was gathering the ball. He wasn't getting to that ball.
Yeah, they do this a lot to determine possession, but it really shouldn't be this way. Everything after the whistle should be considered void as play is dead and you don't know how players on both teams would have acted differently without the whistle. Instead, they pretend like the whistle never happened. Very strange.