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McBride11 said:
I'm taking Garza off he has not impressed and seems like a weakness. FJ in.
 
Take Jozy off, push Dempsey up with AJ, slide MB up and bring on someone to play the Beckerman role. Haiti is getting too many runs directly at the CB. Albeit less now than earlier in the game. Either Beckerman himself or someone JK thinks can play that role with Beckerman looking a little slow last game.
 
Ok, so Jozy off and Zardes to the left with Mix moving behind MB and Dempsey up with AJ, JK generally agreed with me.
 
And Zardes may have just cemented Jozy on the bench.
 
edit: I don't watch much LA Galaxy soccer, but every time I have seen Zardes with USMNT he has impressed, a lot. 
 

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I really hope to never see Jozy again.
He brings nothing to the table against competent defenders.
 

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teddykgb said:
Mix much better in a deeper orchestrating role as well. Very good sub.
 
Wonder if he can improve his defensive abilities enough by next WC to be the starter in behind MB. 
 
And a great shot by Mix as I type.
 

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That counter sucked and I'm gonna lay a lot of blame on Garza. He pushes up and then has a easy pass back to Zardes to release him into the corner. Instead cuts in and plays a 3 yd pass to MB who has crappy options. 
 

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McBride11 said:
 
Wonder if he can improve his defensive abilities enough by next WC to be the starter in behind MB. 
 
And a great shot by Mix as I type.
I don't think so, I think he lacks the foot speed and/or quickness and we won't be on the front foot as much in a WC but he can play like a trequarista against poorer competition
 

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teddykgb said:
I don't think so, I think he lacks the foot speed and/or quickness and we won't be on the front foot as much in a WC but he can play like a trequarista against poorer competition
Regista I think you mean. Trequarista plays between the midfielders and strikers. Regista is like Pirlo playing in what nominally looks like a DM spot, but mostly playmaking not defending much,
 

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Regista I think you mean. Trequarista plays between the midfielders and strikers. Regista is like Pirlo playing in what nominally looks like a DM spot, but mostly playmaking not defending much,
Yeah, of course. Typing while drinking and watching
 

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teddykgb said:
I don't think so, I think he lacks the foot speed and/or quickness and we won't be on the front foot as much in a WC but he can play like a trequarista against poorer competition
 
The Icelandic Pirlo?  Has the hair all ready.
 

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So is the turf as big of a deal as they're making it out to be? And if it is what is the excuse for Foxboro not having pristine grass?
 

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I want to hate Brad Evans but he's been nothing but dependable, though unspectacular, all night long. He's putting in a shift. Zusi, meanwhile, looks like the oldest man on the pitch. AJ is fun to watch. 
 
If we lose this lead, I'm gonna break things.
 

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I want to hate Brad Evans but he's been nothing but dependable, though unspectacular, all night long. He's putting in a shift. Zusi, meanwhile, looks like the oldest man on the pitch. AJ is fun to watch. 
 
If we lose this lead, I'm gonna break things.
It's probably a toss up whether we will concede at this point. We have given up a ton of chances but Haiti aren't exactly clinical
 

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Oh thank god. Beckerman is on. 
 
How fucked up is THAT above sentence?
 

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It's probably a toss up whether we will concede at this point. We have given up a ton of chances but Haiti aren't exactly clinical
Yeah. That Guerrier dude hasn't met a shooting opportunity he didn't like. He's thrown up some real duds.
 

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Is it just me or does Zardes look like a guy who fell into a time machine in 1988? Like, are we sure he doesn't wear overalls with one strap undone?
 

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Is it just me or does Zardes look like a guy who fell into a time machine in 1988? Like, are we sure he doesn't wear overalls with one strap undone?
Are you trying to say he only bets a certain way in roulette?
 

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Is it just me or does Zardes look like a guy who fell into a time machine in 1988? Like, are we sure he doesn't wear overalls with one strap undone?
Actually he cam back from 2032:
 

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The offense immediately changed once Zardes came on. The difference between him and Jozy was night and day. I have no doubt Jozy would have flubbed that opportunity.
 

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If Haiti had better finishing skills, we could have been in real trouble. JMO.
Agreed. They had the U.S. Several times at a disadvantage on the counter attack. That's probably a loss against a better team.
 

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Though Im guessing against a better team they don't make 7 changes to the lineup either. The second 11 wasn't well balanced or good enough but there was a lot of squad rotation in there including the entire back line.

I sent a message at half time saying they had no width and no destroyer. So they just kept getting flanked with no one to pick up the runners. Enter Gyasinho and the goal.

It seemed like they tried to experiment and it didn't quite work right. I'd be shocked if they run something similar against any more difficult opponent.

The sod was shitty. We could see the seams from out seats. And they were soaking as much as they could to keep if down. It was messy.

Crowd for Panama and Honduras was great. I became an honorary Honduran since I cheered for Najar. Quite a fun night. 47000 ish was really fun.

More Johansson please. More Fabian less Garza.
 

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The sod was shitty. We could see the seams from out seats. And they were soaking as much as they could to keep if down. It was messy.
Huh? I was positive the reason they were watering the turf down was so the ball rolled across it faster. The Revs and Pats play on Field Turf. It looked exactly like Field Turf to me.
 

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Thanks to the Haiti-Panama draw on Tuesday and the Honduras-Panama draw last night, the US has already clinched first place in the group -- despite not being very convincing so far.
 

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Huh? I was positive the reason they were watering the turf down was so the ball rolled across it faster. The Revs and Pats play on Field Turf. It looked exactly like Field Turf to me.
Gillette puts down a layer of real grass over the field turf for international games.
 

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Gillette puts down a layer of real grass over the field turf for international games.
Interesting. Did not know that.
 

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More Johanssen and Zardes please. And get Yedlin back in there.
 
 
I watched the first half of the Canada-Jamaica game. I think my kid's U18 travel team has better strikers than Canada. And it's possible my daughter's U13 team does too.
 

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Makes me wonder how Bunbury feels about choosing USMNT. Can't get a run for the US but he'd have to be a starter for Canada right?
 

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Mexico tied 10 man Guatemala 0-0.  Ouch.
 
T&T beat Cuba and leads the group.  They'll have to hold Mexico to a draw to win the group, though, and they aren't going to do that.
 

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Mexico waited way too long to bring on Gio. Why Herrera was playing defensively was confusing. Layun was minimized in the flat 4 especially against a parking break Guatemala. Love seeing Mexico having all to play for in the last group stage.

Should be an interesting lineup tonight for the US Klinsmania says Bedoya and Morales are close. And that Zusi picked up a knock. Gotta figure Bradley will get a rest. 3 in a week is tough to go 90.
 

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Mexico tied 10 man Guatemala 0-0.  Ouch.
 
T&T beat Cuba and leads the group.  They'll have to hold Mexico to a draw to win the group, though, and they aren't going to do that.
 
They were only at 10 men for about 15 minutes, so it's not like Mexico had all day to score against a reduced side.
 
With that said, they should have been at 10 men for a lot longer than they were. The ref gave a yellow to Guatemala early in the first half when he would have been perfectly justified to give a straight red for a vicious, high studs tackle. A few minutes later, he missed a completely and utterly blatant hand ball in the box that should have been a straight red and a penalty. The guy was completely out of his depth. At one point, he fell during a Guatemala counter attack and was thus unable to see a blatant hand ball by a Mexican defender that halted the break. It's frustrating that the "best officials in the world" is really just code for "the best officials from underrepresented countries who couldn't even officiate a U-13 game".
 
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Mexico waited way too long to bring on Gio. Why Herrera was playing defensively was confusing. Layun was minimized in the flat 4 especially against a parking break Guatemala. Love seeing Mexico having all to play for in the last group stage.
 
I couldn't figure that out either. Gio was exactly the type of player they needed to help bridge the gulf between the midfield and Vela/Peralta but he came in with 10 minutes left and, making matters worse, was planted out on the left wing.
 
I don't think they were playing defensively. One of the things the announcers were noting was that the issue with the fullbacks being unable to press up the field was because the midfield was out of position for most of the game. They especially noted that Guardado, who was supposed to be playing the left wing, wound up playing more of a holding mid position on the right side much of the time (which is apparently where he plays for PSV). This resulted in Layun being unable to do his overlapping runs because it would have left the left side of the defense completely vulnerable. They also noted that Vela was dropping too far back, leaving Peralta isolated and outnumbered. To me, that's on the manager to not correct those issues and frankly they were fortunate to get out of there with the draw. Guatemala had a golden opportunity given to them on a silver platter by Vazquez - who looked completely out of sorts the whole game - and only couldn't capitalize because they could only manage two players on the break. I saw a lot of the same issues that they've had for a long time now and it's frustrating to see the same lack of a clue on how to unlock a packed in defense that has plagued them for years (I realize that's easier said than done).
 
On a related note, I really can't emphasize enough the massive difference in quality between Mexican and American broadcasts. There's no way in hell you would get that kind of depth of commentary from the goons at Fox. I imagine they spent the whole game talking about Ochoa's hair cut.
 

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Glad Zardes is there, would have like to see Johanssen in too.
 

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Yeah...they're through unless Panama wins. Actually, 4 points might be enough as a 3rd place team already, even if Panama wins.