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Makes a lot of sense, both teams could certainly be improved, though in general I'm lower on Simmons than most.

Would be pretty lucky outcome for Morey. Seems like a lot of Nets unrest could play right into his hands.
maybe—one possibility is he knew all along Harden was open to leaving.

more likely, he was playing percentages that some top 25 player would want out—which happens fairly often at least once over a 12 month period though you never know which one. Though arguably he was actually betting on a second one becoming available beyond Simmons himself
 

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I really wouldn’t want to have Harden on his next gigantic contract. There, I said it
 

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Philadelphia with Harden would be a much more dangerous team than Philadelphia with Simmons at home.

If Brooklyn can add a few role players / picks, they certainly make out well.
 

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Makes a lot of sense, both teams could certainly be improved, though in general I'm lower on Simmons than most.

Would be pretty lucky outcome for Morey. Seems like a lot of Nets unrest could play right into his hands.
Harden seems not to be a good fit with Kyrie and Durant. Ben could just run the floor and play D.
 

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Harden seems not to be a good fit with Kyrie and Durant. Ben could just run the floor and play D.
Ben could avg 15 ast/g feeding Kyrie and Durant all night without worrying about shooting and still finding gaps in the lane to put up his normal 15-16 pts/g himself.
 

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Ben could avg 15 ast/g feeding Kyrie and Durant all night without worrying about shooting and still finding gaps in the lane to put up his normal 15-16 pts/g himself.
Has there been any new reporting on Simmons' vaccination status? Not having him and Kyrie available for home playoff games would seem like a problem. God forbid the Nets end up matched with the Raptors in a series.
 

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Has there been any new reporting on Simmons' vaccination status? Not having him and Kyrie available for home playoff games would seem like a problem. God forbid the Nets end up matched with the Raptors in a series.
The long ESPN article on the Simmons-Sixers standoff that ran this week said he'd gotten vaccinated.
 

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Has there been any new reporting on Simmons' vaccination status? Not having him and Kyrie available for home playoff games would seem like a problem. God forbid the Nets end up matched with the Raptors in a series.
I doubt this would even be discussed if Simmons wasn’t vaccinated.
 

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Five bold-ish predictions for 2022 NBA trade deadline

John Collins for Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, and a FRP.

Seems like a lot for the Celtics to be giving up, IMHO, and I like Collins' fit on the C's.

BTW, would Golden State be interested in Enes Freedom for some big man depth? Not for anything of value, I'm just wondering as a get under the cap move for the Celtics.
As much of a fan, I'm of recent Marcus, the C's should do that trade in a heartbeat.

It's about combining the rest of the roster to upgrade around the JAYLords
 

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As much of a fan, I'm of recent Marcus, the C's should do that trade in a heartbeat.

It's about combining the rest of the roster to upgrade around the JAYLords
Too bad. We could have had a home grown team of the Jaylord Terry's. That would be quite the trade. You'd hope the C's would bring in some more depth to finish the year, otherwise Ime might go with a 7 man rotation.

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Kind of wonder why the Hawks signed Collins at all since the story was they never wanted him, at least not at max. Unless it was to possibly trade him during the season depending on Hunter's recovery and return. They'd be an incredibly deep team with Smart and JRich, though maybe a bit small. Capela/Hunter/Huerter/Smart/Young with JRich, Bogdan, Gallanari, Okongwu and Wright.
 

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You can't trade both Richardson and Smart unless you are getting a guard back though.
I agree the C's would need a ballhandler. BUT I hope Brad wouldn't let positional need get in the way of adding a talented 24yr old sWing that has shot 40% from 3 (over the last 3 seasons). He's been cusp All-Star & is reasonably signed for 4 more seasons. IME likes to play BIG and JC slides into that Horford role.

JAYLords + JC would have years to gel into a monster as the rest of the league ages out

Brad gathers all his picks, swaps and young players to get THAT ballhandler by Feb 10 or in the summer.

They aren't winning any titles with or without Smart/JRich this season. So I wouldn't grab my pearls at the thoughts of Dennis starting at PG with Romeo/PP gathering experience backing him up.

You'd hope the C's would bring in some more depth to finish the year, otherwise Ime might go with a 7 man rotation.
I'm here for TATUM48!

then Jayson's Peloton Bike can age gracefully into a clothes hanger, like the rest of them
 
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Signed for 2 more years at roughly $12 mil each. 22/23 is non guaranteed (fully guaranteed on 6/25/22) and 23/24 is a player option that fully guarantees on 6/25/23.

I'd take him but I'm not sure we have the salary to match. I wouldn't trade Smart or JRich for him.
He could fit into TPE but not sure thst's yhe best use of the TPE.
 

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He's signed for next year at just under $9.2 million. It seems a little ridiculous, but that's probably about market value for a 6-8 rotation player, right? Maybe even under what the MLE will be next season? I wish they'd just keep him and let the guy finish out his career in his hometown. At least what we can tell from television, he doesn't seem like the kind of person that's going to cause locker room problems about his role on the team.
 

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He's signed for next year at just under $9.2 million. It seems a little ridiculous, but that's probably about market value for a 6-8 rotation player, right? Maybe even under what the MLE will be next season? I wish they'd just keep him and let the guy finish out his career in his hometown. At least what we can tell from television, he doesn't seem like the kind of person that's going to cause locker room problems about his role on the team.
KW can be a +++ regular-season scorer from the bench. The problem with Kemba on 1 knee is the same with IT on 1 hip. Any well-coached, serious team can hunt them and play them off the floor in the playoffs.

They are barely useful on D when 100% healthy, take away a little of their energy or quickness and it's GAME OVER. Basketball is still a tall person's sport, they just need to be more skilled than in the past.
 

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KW can be a +++ regular-season scorer from the bench. The problem with Kemba on 1 knee is the same with IT on 1 hip. Any well-coached, serious team can hunt them and play them off the floor in the playoffs.

They are barely useful on D when 100% healthy, take away a little of their energy or quickness and it's GAME OVER. Basketball is still a tall person's sport, they just need to be more skilled than in the past.
I've not be a fan generally, but it really makes you appreciate Chris Paul. He's basically the same size as Kemba (maybe even a bit smaller), yet is somehow still going strong at age 36. He made the all star team, is leading the league in assists while running the team with the best record. I don't remember him being picked on in the playoffs last year, but who knows.
 

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I've not be a fan generally, but it really makes you appreciate Chris Paul. He's basically the same size as Kemba (maybe even a bit smaller), yet is somehow still going strong at age 36. He made the all star team, is leading the league in assists while running the team with the best record. I don't remember him being picked on in the playoffs last year, but who knows.
Well, Chris Paul is an incredible defender. Kemba wracked up a lot of steals when he was much younger, but that's the best you can say for him on that end.

KW can be a +++ regular-season scorer from the bench. The problem with Kemba on 1 knee is the same with IT on 1 hip. Any well-coached, serious team can hunt them and play them off the floor in the playoffs.

They are barely useful on D when 100% healthy, take away a little of their energy or quickness and it's GAME OVER. Basketball is still a tall person's sport, they just need to be more skilled than in the past.
The problem, of course, is that he got hunted off the floor in the regular season. The only thing that Knicks team has going for it is its defense. They're in the bottom of the league in FG% and ASTs, neither of which a guy like Kemba helps you with. And if he's not improving your bench on offense and making it difficult to do what your team does best, what do you have?

He'd be a better fit somewhere with a lot of good on-ball defenders and more efficient scorers-- but of course that was the situation last year, and the Celtics really struggled to cover for his mistakes: I remember him floating an awful lot of defense, which is basically unforgivable on defense when you're only 6'1. A ton of open threes because of Kemba, as I remember it. happy to be corrected on that though.
 

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The Kemba Walker experiment was worth on shot on a team with good defense, a need for scoring, and a reasonable contract. It didn't work out. Not a big deal if the Knicks can't move him, but I it would be great if they can. Even more so if Kemba himself wants to go someplace else for a different role.
 

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I've not be a fan generally, but it really makes you appreciate Chris Paul. He's basically the same size as Kemba (maybe even a bit smaller), yet is somehow still going strong at age 36. He made the all star team, is leading the league in assists while running the team with the best record. I don't remember him being picked on in the playoffs last year, but who knows.
They really aren’t comparable though. Paul is one of the best defensive PGs the game has ever seen while Kemba, even in his prime, was a guy you would look to for switch advantages. Your point is well taken though in that Paul, much like say a LeBron, is aging well. That just goes to show how elite they were in their primes.
 

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They really aren’t comparable though. Paul is one of the best defensive PGs the game has ever seen while Kemba, even in his prime, was a guy you would look to for switch advantages. Your point is well taken though in that Paul, much like say a LeBron, is aging well. That just goes to show how elite they were in their primes.
That was such a masterful trade by Phoenix. Basically got Paul for crap and the #30 pick in this year’s draft.
 

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They really aren’t comparable though. Paul is one of the best defensive PGs the game has ever seen while Kemba, even in his prime, was a guy you would look to for switch advantages. Your point is well taken though in that Paul, much like say a LeBron, is aging well. That just goes to show how elite they were in their primes.
It was more of a response to the "tall person's sport" comment above, Paul is breaking the mold. He was always a great defensive point guard, but it's still somewhat shocking to see a guy his size (99% of the time he's the smallest guy on the court) play so well for so long.
 

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It was more of a response to the "tall person's sport" comment above, Paul is breaking the mold. He was always a great defensive point guard, but it's still somewhat shocking to see a guy his size (99% of the time he's the smallest guy on the court) play so well for so long.
I'm in the "tall people's game" camp too, but clearly the elite players of all time come in different sizes.

Bob Cousy was 6'1" in shoes and 175 soaking wet and won an MVP and was 10x first team all NBA. Steph Curry was the best player in the world for a while. Morant might be an MVP eventually.

You don't have to be tall, but you kind of have to be pretty damn perfect otherwise if you're not.
 

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Even the elite little guys seem to go quickly. Iverson was 5'11, and at age 32 he averaged 26.4 points and 7.1 assists (with the highest TS% of his career, by a lot). Two years and 85 games later, he was out of the league for good. That cliff comes fast when everyone is bigger than you, perhaps even for the HOFers.

*edit - I've been wrong about a lot the last 2-3 years, but Paul staying at an all-star level is one of my biggest misses.
 

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Well, Chris Paul is an incredible defender. Kemba wracked up a lot of steals when he was much younger, but that's the best you can say for him on that end.



The problem, of course, is that he got hunted off the floor in the regular season. The only thing that Knicks team has going for it is its defense. They're in the bottom of the league in FG% and ASTs, neither of which a guy like Kemba helps you with. And if he's not improving your bench on offense and making it difficult to do what your team does best, what do you have?

He'd be a better fit somewhere with a lot of good on-ball defenders and more efficient scorers-- but of course that was the situation last year, and the Celtics really struggled to cover for his mistakes: I remember him floating an awful lot of defense, which is basically unforgivable on defense when you're only 6'1. A ton of open threes because of Kemba, as I remember it. happy to be corrected on that though.
Kemba "floating" is a perfect description of his defense. Never guarded on-ball, or challenged 3pt shots. Would look to strip BIGs in the lane or step into a charge would be the kindest way to describe it. He completely warps a defense in the worst way

he needs to face off against 2nd units to be hidden

I've not be a fan generally, but it really makes you appreciate Chris Paul. He's basically the same size as Kemba (maybe even a bit smaller), yet is somehow still going strong at age 36. He made the all star team, is leading the league in assists while running the team with the best record. I don't remember him being picked on in the playoffs last year, but who knows.
Not sure how Chris Paul, Point Gawd, were conflated with two terrible defensive PGs?
 

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The Cavs definitely needed another backcourt rotation player, but Levert really strikes me as a guy that could derail their existing system/chemistry. He’s a guy that likes the ball in his hands.
 

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The Cavs definitely needed another backcourt rotation player, but Levert really strikes me as a guy that could derail their existing system/chemistry. He’s a guy that likes the ball in his hands.
Bet they just let him cook with the bench unit Lou Will style
 

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Not sure how Chris Paul, Point Gawd, were conflated with two terrible defensive PGs?
KW can be a +++ regular-season scorer from the bench. The problem with Kemba on 1 knee is the same with IT on 1 hip. Any well-coached, serious team can hunt them and play them off the floor in the playoffs.

They are barely useful on D when 100% healthy, take away a little of their energy or quickness and it's GAME OVER. Basketball is still a tall person's sport, they just need to be more skilled than in the past.
My point was to contrast and marvel at how Paul has survived and thrived while other players of similar stature have fallen off a cliff years earlier.
 

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My point was to contrast and marvel at how Paul has survived and thrived while other players of similar stature have fallen off a cliff years earlier.
Understood your intention, but quibbled with a minor detail. That's all. You're totally right that it's pretty amazing for a player to play so well at Chris Paul's age, no matter how good they were the rest of their career, and at that stature. It's pretty amazing.
 

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My point was to contrast and marvel at how Paul has survived and thrived while other players of similar stature have fallen off a cliff years earlier.
ok got ya. CP ended up in the Greatest 75 of All Time.

It is amazing how well he has played the last few seasons. He looked a little fragile a few years back with the Rockets, but sipped from the fountain of youth in that OKC season.
 

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Mavs have moved up to the No. 5 seed in the West. Hard for me to believe they'd mess up the chemistry of this team by dealing Brunson.
 

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Mavs have moved up to the No. 5 seed in the West. Hard for me to believe they'd mess up the chemistry of this team by dealing Brunson.
Tim MacMahon has been emphatic that Mavs are not dealing him and will be aggressive in re-signing him (and that Brunson would like to re-up there - but not at a discount).
 

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The Cavs definitely needed another backcourt rotation player, but Levert really strikes me as a guy that could derail their existing system/chemistry. He’s a guy that likes the ball in his hands.
Yeah, getting LeVert for basically their 2022 First Round pick isn't a bad deal, but I'm interested in seeing how he fits in Cleveland. He gives them a wing that can score the basketball, but he is also a ball-stopper who isn't a very good shooter. He's not a perfect player for the Cavs and moving Rubio + their pick was their big move they could make at the deadline, unless they do trade Sexton which they've been adamant is not part of the plan.
 

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Man, Sabonis in a Celtics uniform would be really nice.
The tough part there is that the Celtics are (understandably) huge TL believers, and it would be tough to play those two together. I know Horford makes it work by spacing to the corner, but that's a pretty bad use of Sabonis. If you play him in the high post, you're taking away what Rob does well.

Rob is just too good and too cheap to make center the position to tinker with.

I get the sentiment though--Sabonis is really good, on a great contract, and I imagine he's more available than most guys of similar talent.
 

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"With the NBA trade deadline just days away on Feb. 10, the 76ers are expected to pursue Harden in the coming days and the Nets are believed to be open to discussing a deal, sources with knowledge of the situation tell The Athletic. There’s expectation that both the 76ers and Nets will engage in dialogue on a deal around Simmons for Harden, multiple sources say, with Philadelphia holding a chest of role players in Seth Curry, Tyrese Maxey and Matisse Thybulle that could sweeten a potential package. Still, there’s no urgency for Nets officials, who have had the steadfast belief that the current core, as is, has the means necessary for a championship. However, it’s believed that an opening exists should an offer elevate the team and make the roster more well-rounded as the franchise pursues a championship."

https://theathletic.com/3112818/2022/02/04/a-james-harden-ben-simmons-deal-is-a-possibility-before-the-nba-trade-deadline-sources/
Sham’s language here is interesting given Woj’s story this morning that has Marks shutting down Morey with a quick and resounding “no” the only time Morey brought up a Harden to Philly trade, back on January 11:
Eventually, Morey spoke up on the true intention of his call.

"What about James?"

"James who?" Marks responded.

The Nets do have two James -- Johnson and Harden.

"James Harden."

"No," Marks said flatly.

That exchange four weeks ago represents the single, direct communication between Morey and Marks this season, sources told ESPN. However brief the conversation, messages were delivered in each direction: The Sixers planned a pursuit of Harden, and the Nets had no intention of surrender.
The Athletic article using language like “the Nets are believed to be open to discussing a deal“ and “it’s believed that an opening exists” really seem like Morey’s camp wishcasting via Shams, while the ESPN story seems like Marks communicating the opposite via Woj. We’ll see how it shakes out the next few days.