Some management grad student hard up for a project should look into this. I think the OC is pretty good and Lovie is a solid pro. Then you have Culley who I cannot get a handle on leading the coaching staff. I wish we had some Houston fans who could let me know what’s what.
Isn't that much more to do with the GM? As far as I know.. Flores wanted Herbert, but was overruled by the GM who picked Tua... perhaps that's his main problem? Is he the one hiring and firing his OCs? The main reason Flores seems to have been fired is because he didn't get along with the GM who has been there for 20 years and Tua.
As luck would have it, my boss is a Texans fan ... who grew up there and has followed them since the beginning. He says, talking to his circle, that there's some wish-casting going around that Cesario will bring in Flores, which in turn would get Watson to want to stay ... since, apparently, one of the reasons Watson wanted Miami was Flores.
O’Shea, it was said that the offense was too complicated, especially for a young team.
Hope it’s a 120 hour interview
They changed the rule on this either last year or the year before. Think it is a 2 hour zoom or something like that. They thought they were hurting candidates by making “alive” team guys wait.
The assistants used to break free at some point during the week but this changed to virtual interviews since Covid. Zoom makes it more realistic than the old way of flying to and from an interview after a playoff prep practice.
that was john fox that won that game not McD allthourgh i give MCD credit for the 13 super bowl
Should Judge somehow spin his vision into gaining full personnel contol I will concede him the leader of the free world.
Certainly the Tua part makes sense---but you also have to figure Daboll is going to hear from Flores the real deal on being there given their time together.
Also he's interviewing with CHI, and that seems like a more attractive job.
You think he would reject the interview for a Head Coaching job in the NFL for an non-doormat team bc Flores and the GM didn’t see eye to eye? I would find that hard to believe.
no, but I think whether he takes the job will be informed by how Flores perceived the front office and owner
Giants have had a quasi religious adherence to separation of personnel authority (in a GM) and coaching for eons, so it would be some accomplishment.
He's an NFL head coach, he'll be outside his office or bed for like 8 hours the entire season. I'd go where I can win, then you can buy a nice vacation house for the offseason.
Man I don’t believe that for one second that Flores inability to work with his GM will play any factor. He’ll be interviewing them during the process as well.
I think most coaches would tell you that the GM and owner are a huge factor in whether they can succeed. I'm absolutely certain Bill Belichick has told Daboll that over time. So yeah, it matters and frankly you wouldn't want a coach who doesn't think it matters as they are at best worrisomely naive.
The single biggest reason that otherwise successful coaches are fired is that they cannot manage their relationship with the GM. The idea that it won’t be “any factor” in the decision of whether to offer him the job (or accept it) seems glaringly counter-factual.
This is every job when someone is fired. It shouldn’t bc Daboll isn’t Flores and by all accounts it was Flores who was the problem in multiple relationships. If Daboll passes on an offer it should be solely on HIS experience during the interview process.
You know what? I screwed up here by not reading back far enough. (I thought your comment was about Flores interviewing in Chicago, not Daboll in Miami.)
That ownership/GM leaks more than Flores is not a reliable indicator of what went on. Maybe he's tough to work with----the number of OCs he went through is consistent with that---but maybe the front office is totally dysfunctional. You shouldn't take whatever you see reported as gospel, you know a lot of that is purposeful leaks.
The Flores communicator issue particularly with Tua ran rampant down here for two years until the soft end of season schedule. Wins silenced the detractors as they were more focused on how the team could get to the playoffs but this angle wasn’t something the front office just threw out there this week……it had been out there for awhile. Having said that, since it hadn’t been mentioned recently (again, Wins are the ultimate silencer) i thought the other rumor about Harbaugh was the catalyst for the firing. It now appears that it was the Flores/Tua and Flores/GM issues.
Carroll looks safe. Culley has an outside chance of being canned, but why bother?
I would hire Judge back in a second and fire Cam Accord. That now poorly the special teams have been. They are lucky that Nick Folk has been reliable or it would look even worse.
I don’t know that I have seen a HC in the NFL talk himself out of a job that was presumably pretty safe up until about 3 weeks ago. All he had to do was shut his mouth, talk about how excited he was to get everyone back healthy next year, etc., and they were seemingly bringing him back.
I would imagine Brian Flores will be high on their list. New York native, all the charm of Joe Judge, plus winning football.
Maybe, but from the Giants fans I have heard from there is a lot of blaming Belichick for Judge (sold Mara a bill of goods!) and it may be a hard sell to bring in another ex-Pats coach.
Even as a special teams coach? That seems strong. I don’t think they’d have the option to not take one of BB’s assistants seriously.
Some guys like to be part of the locker room, like to coach. If he does, does it matter to him if it's partially from working a few weeks for the Patriots for some small amount when he still has all that coming in?
Afaik, this rule is for all minority coaches not just black. I think the 9ers got comp picks when the Jets hired Saleh.
