I agree. I think his statements have been fine. Someone is toxic @ 1 Jets Drive and I have my theories. I now think it isn't a Rodger's crony because it is too similar to something that happened last year.
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and also, what a great man (edit: It should be over Bama, though)
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Weren’t some people speculating Aaron was the one leaking about Zach’s reluctance? Maybe this was his way of clearing any doubt about his involvement.
Who? I thought it was Rodgers. If it was Rodgers, then this statement today is a brilliant play by him, but I think you're right it's someone else. Probably not even strategic, just has a personal issue with Wilson?
let say roders was healthy the whole year other than bryce hall and garrett wilson they have noone on off and going into 2024 u have to q how much rodgers has left his 2022 in gb was not great by rodgers stan and with miami and buff is 10-7 their ceilling for next season
I think the skill players would have been fine with Rodgers the real problem with this team is they started with a weak offensive line and started dropping guys and then in the Giants game it got to a point where no one was going to do much. So let’s say they get the Zach games, Arod probably also gets the Chargers, Raiders, Falcons so that is 7-5. They did fine defending Miami but we can still call that an L. It’s no certainty that they would be rolling because of the oline but 7-5 seems reasonable.
Breece and Wilson are great. Cook is looking better just not a lot of chances. Conklin is actually pretty good. Decent UDFA receiver and Lazard probably plays better with Rodgers.
The line play destroyed this team. 3-3 after beating Philly and the season turns in the Devito no throw game which they somehow win while losing like 2 centers and the guard who was already a backup guard. So they then have nothing and I mean nothing at C, RG, RT. In Buffalo Becton goes down and are you bored yet. Against Falcons they finally get some bodies back but the genius coach rolls out Tim Boyle because he can’t self scout his own fucking team or allows himself to be bullied into playing Tim Boyle again.
sieman is not a shotgun qb he is a rollout qb with a weak arm ripian shouild be a better fit he is just very up/down
Sure... the problem is... what was leaked sure made it seem like it came from someone close to Aaron (made him look good, made Zach look not great) There is a lot of Dame Lillard with the Blazers in that (for those not in NBA loop, Dame made his whole identity about how he was about the grind in POR over ever leaving to team up with other stars... but like clockwork his agent would anonymously leak that maybe he'd consider asking for a trade every few offseasons, which would be followed by a massive max extension offer from the team and Dame blasting the media for writing about how he'd leave and saying he'd never do it..... until this year when he demanded a trade, his agent got disciplined by the league for toxicly trying to kill any deal to other than the preferred destination, etc.)
Ripping the media (who fans love to hate) for stories that your team put out there is a time honored tradition for egomaniacs in sports.
What you are saying is logical but we had similar leaks last year before Rodgers had anything to do with the team.
Yeah, you kind of have to do some hard work to ignore the past x years of dysfunction under Woody Johnson and how people under his leadership routinely throw others in front of the bus to stay employed.
If we are playing what it's there you have to account for the fact that the Jets had absolutely no business winning that week 1 game against Buffalo. That even with Josh Allen single handily doing all he possibly could to keep us in that game still took a miraculous PR return TD in OT to pull out. Rodgers also isn't making the difference in that Charger game and especially after spotting them early punt return TD. Which would then push your best case scenario to 5-7 and a much different big comparative picture being painted.
Injuries to the line certainly played it's roll in turning a bad scenario into a worst case one, but it wasn't what ultimately destroyed this team. The fact there isn't a single competent offensive mind in that coaching room that's even capable of making anything work in the first place is what destroyed this team. As well as the surrounding bet the team was willing to make, and will be doubling down on again in the upcoming off-season mind you, that 2022 Aaron Rodgers doesn't actually need one to succeed here (or arguably even good surrounding coaching for that matter).
Since no one will care -- or be able to confirm -- if he's actually "ready to play" on January 15, he does get to play the inscrutable hero in his own melodrama.
The Jets are in a really fascinating position this off-season. If they’re drafting top 5-6, they’re almost forced to maximize the Rodgers window (whether that’s 1 or 2 years). That implies to me they’d go with Fashanu/Mims/Alt or maybe Odunze/Nabers and pass over QB3 if he’s on the board (Maye or Daniels presumably)
Does Rodgers + a talented rookie LT really make them a Super Bowl contender? It seems easy to see a path where they go that route, end up 9-8 and in the mix for a wild card for a year or two and then hoping they can get a good enough draft pick to pick a QB in 2026.
maybe they go LT and then try to take a 3rd tier QB on Day 2?
A perpetually QB starved team with an ancient and kind of unknown quantity at QB next year passing over a very highly ranked QB prospect for a LT (and I’m not sure Alt or Mims are truly franchise LT at least day 1) is going to be something worth revisiting down the road. It’s the right play of course, but it kind of makes you wonder. Like how the Patriots passed over Lamar Jackson to fill immediate gaps (Wynn and Michel) to maximize the Brady window (there was no decent QB worth taking in place of NKeal Harry)
Does Rodgers + a talented rookie LT really make them a Super Bowl contender? It seems easy to see a path where they go that route, end up 9-8 and in the mix for a wild card for a year or two and then hoping they can get a good enough draft pick to pick a QB in 2026.
maybe they go LT and then try to take a 3rd tier QB on Day 2?
A perpetually QB starved team with an ancient and kind of unknown quantity at QB next year passing over a very highly ranked QB prospect for a LT (and I’m not sure Alt or Mims are truly franchise LT at least day 1) is going to be something worth revisiting down the road. It’s the right play of course, but it kind of makes you wonder. Like how the Patriots passed over Lamar Jackson to fill immediate gaps (Wynn and Michel) to maximize the Brady window (there was no decent QB worth taking in place of NKeal Harry)
Jets should really take a decade off drafting QBs in the first 2 rounds. Shoring up the OL is a great strategy.
ESPN is presenting this shocking news as a “special report “…………. Sounds like his Achilles is on the mend, but he should probably start worrying about the dreaded longer than 4 hours syndrome.
Add an LT on day one, a C and OG in middle rounds, and get Becton and AVT back from injury, and that line could be leaps and bounds better.
could be. But counting on 3 rookies, one injury plagued semi-disappointment and AVT to gel and play well is a big ask.
agreed thar they will have a heavy investment in OL upgrades. But it’s hard to turn over 3/5 of an OL in an off-season and the chances that 3 rookies not only pan out but are quality 2024 (Rodgers window) contributes seem slim.
they’re also going to need to retool their receiving group outside of Wilson. The “Rodgers guys” have been flops and Conklin is a serviceable but hardly impact option at TE.
Top-10 OT's tend to be stalwarts from Day One. And finding capable interior linemen as rookies is also possible. Maybe the other interior OL is a vet.
Depending in their final draft spot, Bower might be their best choice. In which case, they would need to find another free agent O-lineman.
Depending in their final draft spot, Bower might be their best choice. In which case, they would need to find another free agent O-lineman.
Heartwarming story of Rodgers wanting to practice with the team so a FB gets demoted to the practice squad and a guy on the PS gets released:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/the-aaron-rodgers-roster-spot-costs-kalon-barnes-his-job
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/the-aaron-rodgers-roster-spot-costs-kalon-barnes-his-job
Here are the top 10 OT’s in the last decade:
Paris Johnson, Evan Neal, Charles Cross, Penei Sewell, Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills, Mike McGlinchy, Ronnie Stanley, Jack Conklin, Brandon Scherff (converted to guard), Ereck Flowers, Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Lane Johnson
That’s a mix of complete duds, a few studs (interestingly the arguable best guys in that list are right tackles), and solid unspectacular options probably not worth a top 10 pick but competent and reliable players
the assertion that a top 10 tackle “tends to be a stalwart from day 1” isn’t really accurate. Of that group of 16, there is a cumulative 2 all pro appearances at LT (Stanley in his 4th season, Thomas in his 3rd). Less than 50% of those guys were high end players as rookies
Highly drafted tackles do tend to be day 1 starters, but that’s usually the case for top 10 picks at most positions. So I’m sure Fashanu, Mims, Latham, Alt, Fuaga and even Suamataia, Guyton and Fautanu (if he stays at tackle) being day 1 starters but I’d be surprised if more than 2 of them were impact or reliable starting players.
I think Fashanu is a better prospect than most of those guys but hardly a can’t miss prospect. Evan Neal was talked about as a pro ready, versatile, high floor prospect and he’s been awful. Fisher and Joeckel went 1/2 overall and neither was an impact player.
As for finding interior guys later, sure it can happen. But of the 2023 mid/late round interior linemen (round 3-7), here are the guys who have started more than half their teams games to date: Sidy Sow, Chandler Zavala, Anthony Bradford. None of those guys have been day 1 starters. There were 15 guard, center or position versatile (T/G) guys taken outside of the first 2 rounds by my count, so that’s not exactly a great hit rate for “possible part time starter as a rookie” let alone the type of guy who would noticeably upgrade the Jets OL next year.
All of this is really just a long winded way of saying it’s unlikely the Jets can revamp their OL through the draft in a meaningful way. Fashanu is a terrific prospect, and there’s a couple of guys I really like as plug and play types but whose strength is run blocking (doesn’t help the keep Rodgers upright plan). They’re going to need veteran options (internal or free agents) to stabilize their line and hope whatever tackle they draft can be above average in pass pro from day 1 (and again Fashanu is the only guy who seems likely to do that)
https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/sports/jets-owner-woody-johnson-im-keeping-robert-saleh-joe-douglas/
Wonder if Woody is having second thoughts about giving this interview prior to today’s game
Today's win was especially rough just for the draft ramifications. At #5-6 I'd of been pretty comfortable with the probability of the best pick for us basically making itself. That becomes a lot less so the more we slip into what could easily be WMD all over again.
Could be worse though. Gonna be a lot mad/sad Pats fans when beating us to end the year likely knocks them out of the top 3 QB lottery altogether. Which will be kinda fitting as revenge for Bill screwing us last year with that Pit trade up.
Could be worse though. Gonna be a lot mad/sad Pats fans when beating us to end the year likely knocks them out of the top 3 QB lottery altogether. Which will be kinda fitting as revenge for Bill screwing us last year with that Pit trade up.
I'm sitting at an all time low, and that is saying something as a Jets fan.
I'll take my petty victories however they come.
One final kick in the balls to end 2023:
- No chance of Alt, Foshanu, or Fuaga in the draft.
- No "too high a pick for even them to muck it up" protection when it comes time for whoever is GM'ing Las Vegas to bend us over the negotiating table when we come begging for Davante
- No Pats tears on draft day.
- No chance of Alt, Foshanu, or Fuaga in the draft.
- No "too high a pick for even them to muck it up" protection when it comes time for whoever is GM'ing Las Vegas to bend us over the negotiating table when we come begging for Davante
- No Pats tears on draft day.
I appreciate you. Definitely not the type to do snow angels at Gillette to celebrate a needless win!
This is rich:
View: https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1744379652498473291?s=46&t=11SXTvIYT-tl8b6e7iEUVQ
This guy is like a politician.
View: https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1744379652498473291?s=46&t=11SXTvIYT-tl8b6e7iEUVQ
This guy is like a politician.
Rodgers is the Hot Dog guy in I Think You Should Leave.
WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT THE GUY WHO DID IT.
WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT THE GUY WHO DID IT.
BS like publicly accusing a network TV host of being a pedophile based on nothing more than a personal beef? What a jackass. Green Bay must be thanking their lucky stars to be rid of this attention whore and his constant sideshow of nonsense.
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Yes.
It's really strange Kimmel wouldn't take kindly to someone insinuating he was a pedophile on national TV. I guess someone accusing you of criminal behavior is just something you're supposed to "take" nowadays.
So being rightly criticized for lying about COVID vaccination status justifies baselessly accusing them of a serious, disgusting crime? Go touch some grass, friend.