2023 Jets: Hello Darkness Retreat, My Old Friend
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I tend towards disliking KD, but that All-American Boy coach, model franchise played him in that game was malpractice.
Also NFL network was trying to start "Brady to the Jets" rumours.
Hey Tom, your younger, more mobile peer didn’t last a full series behind our line. Wanna give it a shot?
The difference between Carson Wentz and Zach Wilson is about 7 million dollars.
Seriously, they both suck. Why not take the guy that’s cheaper and has been in the building for the whole offseason?
Also, the offense is double screwed because Hackett is Adam Gase and the entire ship was built around Rodgers.
Breece Hall looked great, so there’s that.
This is one example of many of the snide comments made on this board about Rodgers tearing his ACL without completing a pass for the Jets.
So this board isn't allowed to root for injuries (I think it was a conversation around Tyreke Hill) but this board can mock injuries because it's about the Jets? People get pissed at Miami fans because they are unrepentant trolls. But then people do the exact same things towards the Jets.
Pretty lame. Way to punch up people.
Coming back at 40 is going to be unbelievably hard. Kobe was old and he tore his Achilles and was not close to the same. Granted, Rodgers could go back if he was a statue. But it'll be a very long year of recovery.
What a shitty piece of luck, this sucks, I was really interested in seeing how this Rodgers thing would go. And it's over in seconds.
Kobe has statutes and murals all over LA. I expect NY will do the same for ARog.
I thought he looked just as unsure and confused as last year. The TD to Wilson really should have been picked off and would have been if not for Wilson's otherworldly hand-eye coordination. They didn't ask him to do a lot.
I think he'll give it a go, he won't hang it up, but Rodgers is a weird guy, who knows what ends up going through his mind or if he'll even accept conventional treatment.
I thought it was next steps for over 40 superstar athletes with Achilles injuries. Perhaps I took a surreal step.
Marino (when he was still good at 34) and Sonny Jurgensen had late career Achilles injuries.
Marino played several more good years, but lost whatever pocket mobility he once had. Sonny was 37 and done as a starter, but didn't suck afterwards.
Neither depended on their legs nor were 40, but both played after.
I think he was pretty terrible, but I fell asleep towards the end. That pick he threw to Milano was cursed. Just stared him down and threw the ball directly at him. Those are mistakes you just cannot still be making in your third year
His TD to Wilson was a bad throw bailed out by an insane play by Wilson.
Theoretically, there’s still upside, and Wilson has sounded more mature and accountable from what we’ve seen of him, but I still don’t think he has an even elementary understanding of defenses.
The Jets could fit Kirk Cousins under the cap from what I read last night from Matt St. Jean. Do you want to try and trade for a Brissett or Cousins? Sign a vet FA? The list is awful. Or do you want to play Wilson, take your lumps and hopefully get another shot to draft a good QB in the draft while keeping the culture you are trying to build?
This team is well put together minus a couple pieces on the OL and QB. It sounds damning but it’s hard to put together a team like this. It really is just add QB. If it were me making the decisions, or if I were a Jets fan, I’d say go after Cousins. You have the roster here to make a push.
This team is well put together minus a couple pieces on the OL and QB. It sounds damning but it’s hard to put together a team like this. It really is just add QB. If it were me making the decisions, or if I were a Jets fan, I’d say go after Cousins. You have the roster here to make a push.
The Jets have definitely pushed all-in, and to suddenly reverse course and try and tank for a QB undermines everything Saleh has been building. The defense is championship caliber.
They don’t have a ton of options, and if Wilson isn’t good enough to get you over the hump in his third year, that’s the bed you made when you drafted him second overall.
I think the Jets defense will make them good enough to be in the chase for a wild card spot. So same as last year.
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If I am reading the cap numbers correctly, trading Cousins would put the Vikings over the cap. There may be something they could do about that, but why would they trade their starting QB?
Because the Jets want him, so they should rightfully give up any hopes for their own season.
Jets should cast a wide net. Why not? They won't know until they've surveyed the market and gotten feedback whether a deal is out there or not. Luckily TB12 has botoxed his face to the point I don't think he can take any more hits. But... he's going to be tempted and I think Don Yee's phone will ring. Maybe Carr or Jimmy G can be had for the right price too.
Carr is going to sleepwalk to at least the divisional round of the NFC, no chance.
I think it's Wentz or bust. I'd say Matt Ryan, but the level of done he looked last year + the Jets line makes me think no chance.
I'm not even going to look up the cap numbers for this one. Why on earth would either New Orleans or Vegas trade QB1s they just signed to long term contracts?
They wouldn't. It's an insane speculation.
Carr isn't fucking available. People are absolutely out of their mind.
Neither team is going far, Caleb Williams is sitting there if you bottom out, and they might exact a King's ransom from a desperate team? I'm not saying either is likely, but I'm taking the call (if it comes) to find out what the Jets will put on the table.
So the deal with Minnesota and Cousins is they want to move on from him after this season but want to keep doing a competitive rebuild. The dilemma they have is that they don’t know how they are going to get their next QB after the season especially if they finish 9-8 or something. If they had a crystal ball and knew this year would be 7-10 or something they would likely make that trade. The problem for the Jets right now is the Vikings think they can still compete this year and that they will figure out QB after the season is over. So while it isn’t a strong probability or anything that they would trade Cousins they have some reasons to.
Boomer was lamenting this on WFAN today and I agree with it. On the play he got hurt, Rodgers really needed to get that ball out quicker or, as a last resort, just throw the ball at someone’s feet. Maybe his calf injury weakened the tendon and it was only a matter of time but that was such an awkward turn and he obviously got caught at the exact worst time.
I assume the Jets have seen enough of Flacco to know what they would get there. His rate numbers weren't that much worse than Wentz's last year.
New Orleans takes the call because they will assume it will be asking for Jameis.
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I mean, isn’t it more likely that a QB2 who has at lest been a QB1 is available? Guys I can think of are:
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jacoby B
Taylor “You’re Not Gonna Pay a Lot for This Muffler” Heinicke
Andy Dalton
Teddy Bridgewater
Ghosts Darnold
Mitchy Tru Bags
Davis Mills
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jacoby B
Taylor “You’re Not Gonna Pay a Lot for This Muffler” Heinicke
Andy Dalton
Teddy Bridgewater
Ghosts Darnold
Mitchy Tru Bags
Davis Mills
This means little, but I tore my left Achilles in 2 places (full tear low, partial tear high) in Mexico over the winter and had surgery there in early February with a friend of the family who is a brilliant trauma orthopedic surgeon. I was out of my boot at 5 weeks, on my SUP at 6 weeks (not real smart, but there were tons of dolphins out front and I wanted to see them up close), on my mtn bike at 9 weeks, and did my first 3 mile run right around 11 weeks. Granted, I was taking HGH, which I started after a serious hemorrhage of an inoperable brain tumor 7 years ago, and I'm sure that helped. But I'm also 66 with the inoperable brain issue, and that certainly doesn't help.
I guess my question is, with all the resources available to him, do you think it's possible Rogers may be able to come back some time in late December/early January?
I think Andy Dalton or Brissett would be a major upgrade for them. Of that list those are the guys I think could take the Jets to a WC spot if their defense is for real.
Seeing that Phillip Rivers was ready to go to SF if they beat the Eagles last year, is he a viable option?
Day after hysteria.
You're right. Carr isn't going anywhere. The Saints aren't good, but they'll still be able to sleepwalk to winning that division. They brought Carr in because they experienced life without a competent QB. Unless the Jets blow them away with an offer (multiple high draft picks) which would be ridiculous for someone of Carrs talent level - not to mention they could have had him in the off season for almost nothing - that trade isn't happening.
We all know who is available on the market. Nothing changes because Rodgers went down.
Bro. Even at YOUR geriatric age, you run circles around AR with your fitness, let alone your pitbull mentality. AR has been flirting with retirement for a bit. Who knows how interested he is in this type of recovery process.
(Love you, miss you)
It can never happen because of the history, but I actually think Darnold would be really good in that offense.
Also, as someone who has worked in sports media on the league side, I still can't believe they let the "ghosts" video go live on air. David Stern would have had someone killed for that.
Agree with this. I thought Wilson looked awful and the Jets had a bunch of fortunate events break in their favor to win that game. Even that TD throw to Garrett Wilson you mentioned could have been picked but he made an unbelievable catch. They prob lose the game by two scores if Josh Allen didn’t have his head up his ass on those two deep throws. Especially the last one when Buffalo was already in FG range that would’ve put them up 2 scores.
I’m looking for a QB for sure if I’m the Jets with that excellent defense and weapons like Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson. Real bummer for them they couldn’t see what Rodgers would do with that group.
Another issue is Hackett. Basically brought because Rodgers likes him. Hackett's offenses have historically not been good. He's been an OC for 9 seasons (including the debacle in Denver last year where he was calling plays) and had an offense ranked in the top half of the league 3 times. 2 of those were with Rodgers.
He just spent all summer designing an offense around what Rodgers likes to do and now has to figure something out with either Wilson or whatever journeyman they bring in.
He just spent all summer designing an offense around what Rodgers likes to do and now has to figure something out with either Wilson or whatever journeyman they bring in.
Looking at the cap for real this time, the Vikings can move Cousins this year and knock off about $10 million. So that part works. But yeah, what would the Vikings want back that would be worth waving the white flag after one game? I would start with next year's Jets' #1 pick, and an impact player on defense. Which seems absurd for Cousins, but they would have to be convinced to sell.
Brissett is also a Commander, the players cited were possible targets for acquisition, not necessarily free agents.
Not sure how the cap works out on it but Stafford probably falls into the same pipe dream category as acquiring Cousins.
The Rams just blew out the Seahawks and I doubt McVay came back to tank but they have a pretty bad roster overall that has/had bottom 5 in the league potential. McVay may squeeze 7-9 wins out of them but if it really went sideways early Stafford would be an interesting trade candidate.