I mean, though, he's a 2x all-NBA player. Isn't that kind of guy supposed to be better than a #3?
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That's a regular season award, he gets a boost from Thibs pushing everyone harder than they should be pushed all season, Randle would have played 82 games if he didn't get hurt near the end of the season. Brunson has clearly been the best player on the team all season, but he's not a #1 guy on a title team either. How many of those are in the league at any time? Maybe 5-10?
Drew Timme has McHale level foot work and hope he can translate to a solid NBA rotation player.
He'd need to improve as a passer to play in today's game. Teams would also PnR him to death.
Jokic is so much better than NBA Sabonis. He's Bird and Magic level.
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McHale was an elite defender, guarding centers and even small forwards with great effectiveness. He would have trouble staying in front of guys like Curry, but then again, who doesn’t?
McHale also would have shot threes, and even dabbled with taking them towards the end of his career.
I think Jokic is on the absolute short list for best offensive players ever. His ability to get high-percentage shots off, both for himself and for his teammates, against tight defense, is almost unprecedented. Offense is just so easy for him and his teammates, and it doesn't matter if he is slow or even if he is tired. His size and weight allows him to get good positions on the block and at the nail, and his length and soft-touch allow him to turn ten-foot turnaround shots that are heavily contested into high-percentage shots. And you can't double him because he will shred even well-disguised doubles with his passing.
The shortlist for me would be Wilt, Kareem, Bird, Jordan, LeBron and Jokic.
I think Jokic is on the absolute short list for best offensive players ever. His ability to get high-percentage shots off, both for himself and for his teammates, against tight defense, is almost unprecedented. Offense is just so easy for him and his teammates, and it doesn't matter if he is slow or even if he is tired. His size and weight allows him to get good positions on the block and at the nail, and his length and soft-touch allow him to turn ten-foot turnaround shots that are heavily contested into high-percentage shots. And you can't double him because he will shred even well-disguised doubles with his passing.
The shortlist for me would be Wilt, Kareem, Bird, Jordan, LeBron and Jokic.
I was telling a buddy just two days about that I felt McHale would have thrived in this era with his 3-point shooting as he had the mechanics to be really good at it with repetitions.
Edit: What Kliq said about him.
As great as his actual career was, Kevin Garnett in today's game as the prototypical stretch 5 would be awesome.
I take it Davis has been cleared to play by Drs. James, Ham, Pelinka and Silver.
Expecting 2002 WCF Game 6 levels of nonsense tonight.
Expecting 2002 WCF Game 6 levels of nonsense tonight.
Id like to have seen what Jordan could do in todays NBA. Wide open spacing, no hand checking. No Jordan Rules defense.
He’d have 15 assists a game being forced to pass to Hodges and Paxton for threes and he’d hate it.
Kawhi and Butler excel in the playoffs playing like a watered down 1997 Jordan, and Jordan would shoot more 3s than they do.
I think he easily averages 42 points per game, but we don't get to see much of the beautiful mid-range game.
There were three seasons that Michael Jordan averaged more 3+ 3PA’s: 89-90, 95-96, and 96-97. His 3P% in those years was 38%, 43%, and 37%, respectively. MJ would be an incredible shooter in today’s game given the way the sport has developed and the way players train.
What impact does the elimination of “illegal defense” and the proliferation of zone defenses have on his offensive game? While there’s something to be said about the physical nature of MJ’s era, today’s teams can throw out so many different defensive sets.
What impact does the elimination of “illegal defense” and the proliferation of zone defenses have on his offensive game? While there’s something to be said about the physical nature of MJ’s era, today’s teams can throw out so many different defensive sets.
Worth noting that 95-96 and 96-97 were played with a shorter three point arc than today’s game; not to detract from the overall point, but those years are a little funky.
Can't say about game 7, but in 2001 they had a game 5 at MSG, in a round 1 best of 5 series. They lost to Toronto, 93-89.
I would love to see Ralph Sampson play today; I presume he would have developed a 3P shot and his body would have lasted a lot longer.
for context on the Foster stat..... they were also all (but 1) games against teams that finished better than the Heat.
1 against the East 1 seed, 3 against the 2 seed, 1 each against the 3, 4, 5 and 6 seeds, then the West 2 seed. You probably don't expect 0-10, but you also wouldn't expect too many wins in that stretch either
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1 against the East 1 seed, 3 against the 2 seed, 1 each against the 3, 4, 5 and 6 seeds, then the West 2 seed. You probably don't expect 0-10, but you also wouldn't expect too many wins in that stretch either
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There appears to be somebody who lost a bet wearing a Celtics jersey behind the Knicks’ basket.
Can we stop with the "team X has lost X number of games when official X has officiated?"
Shit is tiresome
Shit is tiresome
If the league didn't have an official jailed after an FBI investigation less than 20 years ago, and didn't have his bestie continuing to referee playoff games to this very day, I might agree with you.
Randle would make me so angry if I were a knicks fan. You're the strongest guy on the floor, stop jacking up contested 3s and drive.
No. Listen when the Knicks have the ball. Why would you think it is sarcasm? It’s packed crowd. Thanks for the quality insights as always. Eagerly awaiting your thoughts. Thx.
During that quick commercial interstitial, the announcers referred to the grifting jackhole as “Hall of Fame guard Kyle Lowry”
(as I wrote that, Lowry plowed his shoulder into a defender to clear space to shoot)
I decided to take a look — is Lowry a lock for the HoF?
Apparently, he is — Basketball Reference has his odds at just under 86%.
I mean, I know he’s been good over the course of his career.
But I hate all the dirty shit he pulls.
Hall of Famer? Fuck.
(as I wrote that, Lowry plowed his shoulder into a defender to clear space to shoot)
I decided to take a look — is Lowry a lock for the HoF?
Apparently, he is — Basketball Reference has his odds at just under 86%.
I mean, I know he’s been good over the course of his career.
But I hate all the dirty shit he pulls.
Hall of Famer? Fuck.
It’s just amazing that a team can run out Duncan Robinson and Strus and not give up 110 points. How are they not taking advantage of these two all series?
Quickley and Randle are hurt, I guess. Take away those two and the Knicks are severely lacking in offensive playmakers, it's basically just Brunson. And Barrett has been just awful.