AFC Championship Game: Indy @ New England

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Indy is better than they were earlier in the year having ditched the T Rich deadweight. Pretty much the best route the Pats could have hoped for, different set of strengths and weaknesses but a similar caliber team to Baltimore. Pass rush needs to be better and that outlet pass they struggled with yesterday has been a big part of the post TRich offense.

Pats will win this about 80 percent of the time.
 

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Will be a much harder game now that Pagano realized that Trent Richardson sucks about two years after everyone else did.
 

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Revis on HIlton, Browner on Allen/Fleener, Ryan on Moncrief with safety help? I like the matchup - not a tough team like the Ravens and I don't see the Colts D stopping the Patriots offense. Pats should put up a lot of points.
 

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Luck scares me. The guy can make all the throws and makes plays with his legs. Bad weather would be appreciated facing a dome team.
 

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Luck is really really good.  Not in a Joe Flacco "I really hope I get enough pass interference calls to pull out the win today" kind of good, but a legitimate good.  He is one of the few players left that I enjoy watching, too.
 
I think the Pats win, but I can see them struggling to contain him. 
 

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I swear, if the Colts refused to play and sent the Jaguars in their place, there would be people still pissing their pants. "They have nothing to lose!" "Bortles is due!"
 

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Luck is good for a few bone headed throws a game. The Pats feast on QBs like that.

Pats going away.
 

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Stitch01 said:
Indy is better than they were earlier in the year having ditched the T Rich deadweight. Pretty much the best route the Pats could have hoped for, different set of strengths and weaknesses but a similar caliber team to Baltimore. Pass rush needs to be better and that outlet pass they struggled with yesterday has been a big part of the post TRich offense.

Pats will win this about 80 percent of the time.
 
This should about be offset by the Pats being healthier than they were.
 
Regardless, Brady et al should destroy this soft defense. Indy's D line didn't play all that well tonight, Manning was just godawful. Luck will do what he always does; make some unbelievable plays but also hold the ball too long and make some dumb throws. I think this should be similar to the last game, and don't forget Brady had one of his horrible turnovers there. Hopefully he can avoid that again.
 

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This game will be closer than people think.  Indianapolis did a good job on both sides of the ball today and if their OL can hold the Pats pass rush, Luck will find Fleener (recall that the Pats typically cede the TE while focusing on the receivers).  I don't know if it will feel like yesterday's heart-attack but I will be shocked if this is a blow-out one way or another.
 

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Going to go out on a limb and guess that Gray and Flemming will be active for this one.  If they can repeat the run over them game plan for a third time....well, that would be fun.
 

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I swear, if the Colts refused to play and sent the Jaguars in their place, there would be people still pissing their pants. "They have nothing to lose!" "Bortles is due!"
Well, the Colts are far and away the worst team left standing according to Football Outsiders.

While NE, GB, and SEA are #1, 3, and 4 by DVOA, while the Colts are #12. Both their offense and defense is ranked lower by DVOA than any other remaining team's unit. DVOA does like their Special Teams (#8)... But loves the Pats (#5) even more.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
This should about be offset by the Pats being healthier than they were.
 
Regardless, Brady et al should destroy this soft defense. Indy's D line didn't play all that well tonight, Manning was just godawful. Luck will do what he always does; make some unbelievable plays but also hold the ball too long and make some dumb throws. I think this should be similar to the last game, and don't forget Brady had one of his horrible turnovers there. Hopefully he can avoid that again.
Except Stork might be out. I don't think he's been great running but the alternatives seem horrible
 

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Browner on Nicks, no?
 
Definitely. The DBs match up very nicely in this game -- a real Pats advantage.
 
ShaneTrot said:
Luck scares me. The guy can make all the throws and makes plays with his legs. Bad weather would be appreciated facing a dome team.
 
Yes.
 
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Luck is good for a few bone headed throws a game.
 
And yes -- both are true.  I think it's a scary team, better in many ways than the Ravens who gave the Pats all they could handle, but also less experienced, more erratic, and less balanced. And, simply, less talented than the Pats as well as much less playoff tested.
 
I also like that the Pats seemed to shake off their rust after a bad start yesterday and after such a tough game I think will come back super focused. In particular, Brady had a bad start and seemed overly hyped which has been a bit of a pattern recently in the playoffs. Once he settled in, though, obviously he was nails -- I'd expect he'll be focused all game long this time.
 

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DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
This game will be closer than people think.  Indianapolis did a good job on both sides of the ball today and if their OL can hold the Pats pass rush, Luck will find Fleener (recall that the Pats typically cede the TE while focusing on the receivers).  I don't know if it will feel like yesterday's heart-attack but I will be shocked if this is a blow-out one way or another.
Indy won't blow out the Pats barring injury, defense isn't good enough. Hard to say the Pats can't blow out Indy given they've blown them out three times recently and are the better team heading into the game.
 

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Allen and Fleener will be a tough duo to defend this time around. Need to defend the run a whole lot better to make Luck one-dimensional. Jones and Nink can't collapse the pocket inside to open up the running lanes.

It's the matchup I prefer, but it will be a fight to win. Be the better team for 60 minutes.
 

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If we ground and pound like the last game against the Colts we take the ball out of Luck's hands.
If we win the toss...I would take the ball and run it down their throats.
 

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Revis on HIlton, Browner on Allen/Fleener, Ryan on Moncrief with safety help? I like the matchup - not a tough team like the Ravens and I don't see the Colts D stopping the Patriots offense. Pats should put up a lot of points.
 
In the first matchup it was Revis on Wayne, Browner on Fleener, and Arrington on Hilton. Moncrief didn't have a catch in that game, and only played 10 snaps. Nicks is used more. 
 

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I'm curious how we attack them on offense. I'm not convinced that repeating the run-heavy strategy is going to work.
I think you do it until they prove they can consistently stop it. Consistently not just a few drives.
 

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In addition, our running game has looked anemic recently.  Jonas Gray was inactive for the Ravens game.  Is he hurt?  In the doghouse?
 

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In addition, our running game has looked anemic recently.  Jonas Gray was inactive for the Ravens game.  Is he hurt?  In the doghouse?
Bills/Jets/Ravens all tough against the run. Colts are nowhere near that level, though blocking is a concern if we're working with a makeshift line.
 

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Adam is playoff tested.
He's good, but he's an indoor, dome kicker. Let's wait for him to prove that he can kick in a high pressure, outdoor situation like a Foxboro playoff game before we go crowning him.
 

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He's good, but he's an indoor, dome kicker. Let's wait for him to prove that he can kick in a high pressure, outdoor situation like a Foxboro playoff game before we go crowning him.
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Well said. I hope it snows. Would love to see how he handles a good snowstorm. Probably flop around like a fish out of water.
 

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I think you do it until they prove they can consistently stop it. Consistently not just a few drives.
There's no way McDaniels will go run heavy for several drives without it being effective. And I don't want him to, this isn't the 1970s Big Ten.

Mix it up. Play fast. Tire then out and then maybe go run heavier in the 2nd half to put them away, if it's working.
 

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There's no way McDaniels will go run heavy for several drives without it being effective. And I don't want him to, this isn't the 1970s Big Ten.
Mix it up. Play fast. Tire then out and then maybe go run heavier in the 2nd half to put them away, if it's working.
No kidding, that would be a terrible game plan if the run isn't working.
 

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Faulk just can't let it go. He compliments NE but ends with "BB will do anything to win, let's just say that."
 

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McDaniels should be able to have a field day with the game plan including contingencies. Indy HAS to establish early that they are going to stop the run. I would therefore expect a whole lot of play action passes down the seams. Gronk could have another monster yardage day.

My only concern assumes Stork is out. If the line can hold up against an inferior rush to BAL the way they did yesterday then it's another 30+ point day. The interior lone subs just scare me so much that I could easily see them running the troubadour offense.

Just to get this out of the way...SoSH is a collective failure if there are not multiple postings of the Gronk TD and "throw him out of the club" play. The clock starts...now.
 

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He's good, but he's an indoor, dome kicker. Let's wait for him to prove that he can kick in a high pressure, outdoor situation like a Foxboro playoff game before we go crowning him.
Love this post. Well done.
 

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Is there any concrete info to suggest that Stork really is out? 
 
I am more concerned that Brady took some hard hits yesterday. 
 
Seems like play action presents Indy with some real trouble, even when they know they are going to get it.
 

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Am pretty confident about this one.

Will admit to being wrong about Indy -- it is not a fraud team. But you have to put their two playoff wins in context. One came at home against Andy Dalton who was missing two important weapons. The other came against a HOF'er who could not throw with any accuracy beyond 10 yards. Because Indy could afford to key on the run in the first game with impunity, and because Fox was too stupid or stubborn to recognize the obvious and rely on the run in the second, Indy's key weakness on defense has not been tested. The Pats will not be a one-arm fighter.

Indy did well offensively against two pretty good defenses, but Luck commits a couple of very bad mistakes every game, it seems. I am not buying that today's INTs were punts. And although these mistakes were attributed earlier this year to Luck having no choice because everyone around him sucked, that has not been the case in the playoffs. And he made the mistakes anyway.

The Colts are peaking at the right time, but don't strike me as SB ready given these flaws. The Pats are playing for enormous stakes legacy wise, and will undoubtedly be coached hard to clean up the crap from yesterday. There is zero danger of the Colts being taken lightly, and I expect the superior team to win at home.
 

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Well this couldnt have broke any better.

Get the hard game over with. Welcome your punching bag in the AFC title game and let the chips fall where they may in Arizona.

Theres just no way the Pats dont win this game.
 
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