There was a time when I seriously considered the notion that Belichick is behind all of these false accusations in order to create motivation for the squad that has it all to win another title. I mean, it's no less ridiculous than anything else I've heard.
CSI Nevermind--Excuses for Why Patriots Opponents Lose
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The stories I've read seem to move towards the Jets looking like morons and the league looking obsessed. In my estimation these are both undeniable truths that should have been recognized more than a year ago, so perhaps one more of these ridiculous, baseless stories will really get the national tide turned.
Or not.
Or not.
I wonder how many takes they did before they said fuck it, let's leave the part with Clevon cracking up in the movie.
Apropos of nothing, if you're into autobiographies, Gene Wilder's (kiss me like a stranger) is fantastic. Goes fairly deep into his professional relationship with Pryor.
Apropos of nothing, if you're into autobiographies, Gene Wilder's (kiss me like a stranger) is fantastic. Goes fairly deep into his professional relationship with Pryor.
dcmissle said:
How bad do you think Mr. Kraft's reflux is?
Nexium is the little purple pill. I think the joke you were going for here involves a blue pill.
Carry on, $10, etc....
What is the possible benefit to the Patriots even if the employee fucks with the refs in-stadium microphone?
They Jets guy realizes that if that mic goes out the penalties still count right? Aren't we just talking about the mic that informs the crowd of penalties here?
They Jets guy realizes that if that mic goes out the penalties still count right? Aren't we just talking about the mic that informs the crowd of penalties here?
If BB was suspended for a year for some bullshit trumped up charge, would that be enough for Kraft to go nuclear on the league? I have my doubts
It's all fun and games till someone's paranoia causes you another first round draft pick.joe dokes said:
I take it as a good sign that the Patriots have thought through the possibility of someone planting "evidence" of cheating in their locker room, but I'd still hope they are getting some one other than the NFL for that verification.
Basically the plot summary is the same as DFG & the Ravens "illegal" ineligible play
1) Opposing team doesn't know what the rule is (or in the case of DFG, "science")
2) Complain loudly to the league Pats are doing something wrong
3) Everyone gets all up in arms are cheating
4) Come to realize Pats did nothing wrong, much ado about nothing
5) Except the damage to the reputation is already done
Every one of these cases is Ready, Fire, Aim.
1) Opposing team doesn't know what the rule is (or in the case of DFG, "science")
2) Complain loudly to the league Pats are doing something wrong
3) Everyone gets all up in arms are cheating
4) Come to realize Pats did nothing wrong, much ado about nothing
5) Except the damage to the reputation is already done
Every one of these cases is Ready, Fire, Aim.
With an actual commissioner with a brain in their head, this is how it should have gone:
Jets: There was a man with a headset on the sidelines. We felt threatened. You should look into it.
Actual Commish: That's a person doing their job like they're supposed to. You keep bringing this garbage up and wasting my time, I'm taking away draft picks. Now, fuck off.
And now with Goodell:
Jets: There was a man with a headset on the sidelines. We felt threatened. You should look into it.
RG: Oh yes, I hear you loud and clear, we take the integrity of the game very seriously and will look into it very carefully. We would of course do this with every team because we take complaints against all teams equally (wink).
Jets: Shall we leak this to the press or should you?
RG: Make it both.
Jets: There was a man with a headset on the sidelines. We felt threatened. You should look into it.
Actual Commish: That's a person doing their job like they're supposed to. You keep bringing this garbage up and wasting my time, I'm taking away draft picks. Now, fuck off.
And now with Goodell:
Jets: There was a man with a headset on the sidelines. We felt threatened. You should look into it.
RG: Oh yes, I hear you loud and clear, we take the integrity of the game very seriously and will look into it very carefully. We would of course do this with every team because we take complaints against all teams equally (wink).
Jets: Shall we leak this to the press or should you?
RG: Make it both.
Be nice if the national media would finally go with just about everything out of NFL HQ is a lie.
The thing I find most concerning, but hardly surprising, is that people who work for the Jets actually believe that the Patriots and Bill Belichick are "cheaters". All this time I naively thought it was all gamesmanship gone wrong.
Well, they were actually violating a rule in the whole spygate thing. I wouldn't call that cheating and I think it was overblown but the jets weren't paranoid about that. It should have been a "hey stop it, we just had a memo about this" and not "spy gate"drleather2001 said:
I just don't know how much this stuff goes on to form an opinion. What if some teams have general anti espionage policies but we heard about this because "Pats cheat"
It is also true that Woody is moron, so he might think the pats win because they cheat. I'll never defend that fool.
There has to be a limiting principal on when a complaint leads to an investigation. What if a team suggests to the league that an opposing QB has a communication device in his jock strap that is giving him calls after the headsets shut off, via pulsing morse code? Will they stop the game and have the QB strip on the sideline to check? I fully expect crap like that to start unless someone in league HQ gets their act together and requires some kind of evidence.
djbayko said:
Go back and read the Wells report section on the kicking ball fiasco and all the NFL staff and game officials stepping all over each other. They have learned absolutely nothing from that goat rodeo.
Not assuming anything nefarious, but this is really dumb:
https://twitter.com/pp_rich_hill/status/661208685771923456
https://twitter.com/pp_rich_hill/status/661208685771923456
Yeah, but if you combine Viagra and the red pill that Morpheus gives you . . .DaveRoberts said:
Edit: Damnit. Beat.
How long before the Jets or the Dolts accuse the Pats of spiking the team's water with massive amounts of Viagra?
The next generation of football players will have grown up not stealing lunch money but rather crying that the nerd had produced counterfeit bills.dcmissle said:
I don't know when it happened or if it's always been this way but it sure feels like a sudden change to discover that the NFL is no longer about winning but instead making sure nobody can blame you for losing.
It says they won 19/25 which has less than 3/4 of 1% probability of occurring naturally. That's not exactly right of course, in part because there are lots of 25 coin-flip sets to choose from. But it is still way way way better evidence of cheating than the incredibly moronic 538 fumble "calculations."
So they Jedi mind trick the visiting team into guessing wrong, and get most of them right on the road? Or does that 19/25 only include away games? The link doesn't seem to say.
No it isn't. In fact, it is even dumber.snowmanny said:
The writer is relatively correct (its closer to 0.7 percent) that such accuracy or greater is very unlikely by random chance alone. However, one is more likely to see uneven coin flip ratios at small sample sizes and we have 32 teams. Therefore, the odds that a single team wins 3/4ths of 25 coin flips are actually much higher (closer to 21 percent).
This becomes less likely as the sample gets larger. At 50 samples the odds of seeing such accuracy drops to about 0.01 percent. If this effect remains at 50 coin flips, then the odds of a single team with an accuracy greater than 0.76 is only about half a percent.
EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that all of the articles discussing this phenomenon have been tongue-in-cheek. They mostly dig at the average NFL
This is wrong. It has a 21 (technically 0.2084 +/- 0.0001) percent chance of occurring randomly in the NFL.Toe Nash said:
Probably because this doesn't happen at larger sample sizes. At 50 samples, there is about a 35 percent chance that one team will win 76 percent of coin tosses over 60 sets of NFL teams.Lukiewerle said:
Who did the original abortion of an analysis and will they retract... Or will the NFL, not having been aware of "probability", commission a law firm to do a $5 million dollar hit job on Belichick and the patriots.EricFeczko said:
How so? Coin flip is win/loss, sink didn't see many possible end points, unless you are extending this to NFL activities outside of the coin flip.singaporesoxfan said:
As Eric Feczko points out, it's closer to the rule of large numbers...but in this case, really just everyday statistical probability.
djbayko said:
As in, the selection of the Patriots and 25 games represent specially selected end points to make the point.
Lukiewerle said:
Because I'm certain they lost the 26th flip and there's a good chance they lost a good chunk of the ones before that and it ruins the "story"
It's just funny/sad that a joke article can even get this much discussion.
Funny because it's really actually come to this, and sad because you know there is someone in 345 Park Ave going "we got those f**kers this time" right about now.
Funny because it's really actually come to this, and sad because you know there is someone in 345 Park Ave going "we got those f**kers this time" right about now.