E5 Yaz said:WilliamsonNFL Matt Williamson
BTW…I’m not sayin’, but just sayin’: Sunday wasn’t exactly the 1st poor weather/rainy game in Foxboro during Belichick regime…1st time?
Just information from someone who was there Sunday night and knows... No link but assume it will come out soon.E5 Yaz said:
link?
captain tek said:They checked all game balls for both teams Sunday night at HALFTIME. That was the delay prior to the Pats first possession in 3rd quarter, the game balls had not yet been returned to the sideline by NFL officials... So from halftime on, the Pats balls were all up to standard.
Anderson's crew could've half-assed the pregame inspection.genoasalami said:Unfortunately, the only logical explanation is that someone took air out of the balls ....not sure ..when..where...and how...but that someone most likely has ties to the Patriots, and it was done on purpose for a competitive advantage...if you can swing a better alibi let us know.
For the same reason that Aaron Roger's Packers give the refs overinflated balls? If they slip through, great, and technically not their problem.P'tucket said:Even if it's the latter and the refs didn't do their jobs, why did the Patriots giving them under inflated balls to check in the first place?
Source?captain tek said:They checked all game balls for both teams Sunday night at HALFTIME. That was the delay prior to the Pats first possession in 3rd quarter, the game balls had not yet been returned to the sideline by NFL officials... So from halftime on, the Pats balls were all up to standard.
Their was bold Sharpie writing on it saying "TEST THIS BALL. ALL OTHERS ARE FINE, TOO".riboflav said:If the league is so distraught they needed to handle this better like providing the footballs themselves.
Also, I wonder why the 12th ball was fine.
riboflav said:
Maybe they're really never checked which is why Rodgers overinflates them because he knows he can.
They get to modify the ball using a defined set of tools and within certain parameters. The inflated pressure has to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi when checked by the ref. The team doesn't have the right or option to color outside the lines on that.wiffleballhero said:But the feel of the ball is the whole reason the teams get to pick and prepare 'their' balls.
I'm pretty sure that's not how they're thinking about this either in the NFL offices or at Patriot Place just now.djbayko said:For the same reason that Aaron Roger's Packers give the refs overinflated balls? If they slip through, great, and technically not their problem.
B H Kim said:People fishing for legitimate reasons why this happened or trying to blame this on the refs are deluding themselves. Eleven balls isn't an accident or oversight. It sucks, but it's pretty clear that someone with the team did this deliberately. They have no one to blame but themselves for this shitshow.
Post of the thread.LesterFan said:All because Brady forced a throw to Gronk. God dammit
For real. 0 Colts balls were underinflated.riboflav said:
For real?
captain tek said:Just information from someone who was there Sunday night and knows... No link but assume it will come out soon.
P'tucket said:They get to modify the ball using a defined set of tools and within certain parameters. The inflated pressure has to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi when checked by the ref. The team doesn't have the right or option to color outside the lines on that.
LesterFan said:All because Brady forced a throw to Gronk. God dammit
Mark Schofield said:Post of the thread.
Where do you see this? Haven't found it anywhere or on Twitter that the Colts balls were checkedCaptaincoop said:For real. 0 Colts balls were underinflated.
I'm quite certain this happens all the time since the balls are under the control of the teams and obviously the officials can't tell the pressure to the exact PSI, but this story now has legs. Boo.
Totally understand... Long time lurker.riboflav said:
I'd feel better if you were a long-time member with a good track record, no offense to you personally.
Maybe, but rules are rules. Very sad about this, at least until we hear the full story.RedOctober3829 said:I keep saying this: it takes a special kind of sour grapes-I-got-my-ass-kicked group of sissies that would actually take time to report this to the league. I deal with the exact thing we are dealing with in my job and I have never once heard anybody complain about the PSI of the opposing team's footballs. This whole situation is a joke. It does NOT make a difference in the game.
I find it absolutely hilarious that it is legal for QBs to wear gloves to get a better grip on the football but adjusting the PSIs by 1 or 2 is a federal case.
YupHendu for Kutch said:So the explanation for the refs not noticing the balls were 15-20% under-inflated is? If they were all so far off, how were they allowed to use them the whole game?
This stinks of either being something not uncommon that typically isn't cared about but has to be now because it's public, or gross negligence on the part of the refs.
Submitting under inflated balls, even if done intentionally, should be the equivalent of stretching out with the ball after being tackled. The refs should be paying attention.
RedOctober3829 said:I keep saying this: it takes a special kind of sour grapes-I-got-my-ass-kicked group of sissies that would actually take time to report this to the league. I deal with the exact thing we are dealing with in my job and I have never once heard anybody complain about the PSI of the opposing team's footballs. This whole situation is a joke. It does NOT make a difference in the game.
I find it absolutely hilarious that it is legal for QBs to wear gloves to get a better grip on the football but adjusting the PSIs by 1 or 2 is a federal case.
tbb345 said:Jesus H. Christ. Well...this is not good. I still don't get how the fucking ref doesn't feel this but an LB picking off a pass notices it enough to make an issue of it
I'm pretty sure the equipment guy on the Colts noticed it when it was handed to him by Jackson.tbb345 said:Jesus H. Christ. Well...this is not good. I still don't get how the fucking ref doesn't feel this but an LB picking off a pass notices it enough to make an issue of it
Link? You keep posting unsubstantiated claims, starting with the bullshit about the colts balls being tested today, as in two days after the actual game.Captaincoop said:For real. 0 Colts balls were underinflated.
I'm quite certain this happens all the time since the balls are under the control of the teams and obviously the officials can't tell the pressure to the exact PSI, but this story now has legs. Boo.
Hit the nail on the head. This is by far the fishiest part of the story that the media seems to be ignoring. How do the refs not notice this? Either it's not nearly as egregious as it is being made out to be or these refs are complete fucktards...or maybe a combination of bothHendu for Kutch said:So the explanation for the refs not noticing the balls were 15-20% under-inflated is? If they were all so far off, how were they allowed to use them the whole game?
This stinks of either being something not uncommon that typically isn't cared about but has to be now because it's public, or gross negligence on the part of the refs.
Submitting under inflated balls, even if done intentionally, should be the equivalent of stretching out with the ball after being tackled. The refs should be paying attention.
I realize that. Do you realize that even if the refs screwed the pooch on this, the Patriots still look like shit for trying to run under inflated balls past them? Because no one will chalk it off to sloppiness or a lazy ball boy.Freddy Linn said:
No, if the ball is underinflated or overinflated it is adjusted by the refs.
Point still stands. How does ANYONE notice this but the refs don't?kenneycb said:I'm pretty sure the equipment guy on the Colts noticed it when it was handed to him by Jackson.