Frisbetarian said:Yeah, I want blood.
And it's not about the Seahawks even a little - hell, I love Marshawn 'New Jack' Lynch. I want destruction and devastation in this game to fuck the NLF, and to fuck the Colts, and to fuck the Ravens, and most of all to fuck the media, and especially to fuck the Boston media who jumped all over the deflate bandwagon.
I don't want just a win. I want something more lopsided than 45-7. I want to see Kraft, Belichick and Tom Brady rip the Lombardi Trophy out of Goodell's hands, I want him pushed off stage and publicly humiliated. I want nothing less than his resignation within a week following the game.djhb20 said:It's true. A loss tomorrow would have sucked no matter what. But after all this, a win would just be that much fucking better.
Fuck em all.
And a nice manicure on the thumbnail too!jimbobim said:WOW this awesome.
I'm not sure if the secondary ticket market correlates to ratings, but I believe this is now the most expensive Super Bowl ticket of all time. If the game is close in the 4th quarter I imagine it'll be the most watched SB of all time as well.HowBoutDemSox said:I was hearing from some fans of teams not playing today (e.g., Packers fans, Viking fans, Denver fans) about how unengaged they are by this Super Bowl, despite acknowledging that it's a very close matchup of two top teams. I wonder if the media focus on the deflation "scandal" will wind up hurting ratings (albeit slightly, it's still the Super Bowl). It was a top story on the news for so long, but now that it's largely cooled off, the story lines that would have had more enduring traction (Brady's legacy, Wilson's continued rise, Pete Carroll against his old team, Legion of Boom against Gronk and this offense, etc.) never got the play they deserved and people have had the story thrust in their face for so long that they're tired of it. Probably any change in viewership would be an undetectable blip, but just something I noticed.
That was what was on the crawl on one of the news networks yesterday.8slim said:I'm not sure if the secondary ticket market correlates to ratings, but I believe this is now the most expensive Super Bowl ticket of all time.
ifmanis5 said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000466783/article/more-details-on-the-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs>> Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum.
What did the Colts do to that football? Or maybe it was the ball used primarily in the game and lost pressure from the abuse. It also looks like this is an investigation into ONE football, which is the one the Colts handled. Many of the others were a few ticks under, what an embarrassment this is.>> Many of the footballs used in the AFC title game, which all have Walt Anderson's initials on them, were returned to circulation among the rest of the Patriots game-day footballs. Because Anderson was the referee for two other Patriots games this season, there are more than 30 footballs with his initials in the team's possession. It appears the league has the football D'Qwell Jackson intercepted and took to the sidelines to ultimately hand over to his equipment staff.
Mort should absolutely be canned for his misreport that has been the whole and entire facts that have been used to slander two great individuals.Ed Hillel said:JFC:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000466783/article/more-details-on-the-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs
What did the Colts do to that football? Or maybe it was the ball used primarily in the game and lost pressure from the abuse. Either way, a few ticks under, what an embarrassment this is.
I love the continued desire to see some toilet porn by media members.Byrdbrain said:And this too:
> Prior to the game, a game-day worker employed by the Patriots, a man described as elderly, took two bags of 12 footballs (one bag from each team) into the restroom near the referees' room in Gillette Stadium. The man was in the room for 98 seconds. When he exited the room, he took the balls to the field. There is video of the man entering and exiting the bathroom, but it's unclear if there is a clear shot inside the restroom.
I think it is new that the "ball attendant" is elderly. Of course he needed to piss before the game and an elderly man peeing in 98 seconds is damned fast.
YTF said:I actually would like clarification on "a few ticks under". Who said that and what does it mean? I think both are equally important to discrediting a bunch of stuff here. And I like that the ball attendant is now being described as elderly. This can only favor The Pats. 98 seconds in not unreasonable especially if you consider time to wipe up the dribble.
Seems clear to me that means a few tenths.YTF said:I actually would like clarification on "a few ticks under". Who said that and what does it mean? I think both are equally important to discrediting a bunch of stuff here. And I like that the ball attendant is now being described as elderly. This can only favor The Pats. 98 seconds in not unreasonable especially if you consider time to wipe up the dribble.
We know what's what.drbretto said:This "scandal" has had exactly one effect on me. Before this, I was a pretty passive football fan. Mostly because I guess I believed the hype about those obnoxious pats fans. Those Brady worshipong, Bellichick apologizing nutjobs. It's intimidating, and I wasn't sure I really wanted to be a part of that.
Myth confirmed sometime around 2005 or so when those obnoxious pats fans started calling Tom Brady the best quarterback that ever lived after just a few years in the league. Then again when spygate came out and no one could admit they were cheaters from the top down.
Then, this deflate gate thing blows the fuck up and I can't help be be interested. Mostly because (and I blame sosh for this) I can't ignore rampant bullshit in the media.
So I dug in deeper, largely due to thoughts and links in this thread, and it didn't even take that long to see the obvious truth.
They didn't cheat here. Spygate WAS bullshit. And you guys were the first group of people to recognize that Tom Brady was going to end up being the greatest quarterback of all time. Pats fans were right about everything. Everything.
I'm damn proud to call myself a Patriots fan. Can't wait for the game.
I think there's also an insinuation that they used balls that were previously approved by Anderson from other games.Ed Hillel said:JFC:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000466783/article/more-details-on-the-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs
What did the Colts do to that football? Or maybe it was the ball used primarily in the game and lost pressure from the abuse. It also looks like this is an investigation into ONE football, which is the one the Colts handled. Many of the others were a few ticks under, what an embarrassment this is.
Hoya81 said:I think there's also an insinuation that they used balls that were previously approved by Anderson from other games.
Corsi said:
It probably took him 30 seconds to even start peeing.
I just saw Rappaport on the NFL Network deliver this "report". Also said that the elderly attendant is only employed on Game Day. He also said that he spoke with someone who was with Tom Brady when he found out about the 90 second bathroom trip and the person said Brady seemed "confused and a little miffed". Rappaport also said:Byrdbrain said:And this too:
> Prior to the game, a game-day worker employed by the Patriots, a man described as elderly, took two bags of 12 footballs (one bag from each team) into the restroom near the referees' room in Gillette Stadium. The man was in the room for 98 seconds. When he exited the room, he took the balls to the field. There is video of the man entering and exiting the bathroom, but it's unclear if there is a clear shot inside the restroom.
I think it is new that the "ball attendant" is elderly. Of course he needed to piss before the game and an elderly man peeing in 98 seconds is damned fast.
I do not know why you are shocked. The NFL is beyond incompetentlambeau said:Mort's "underinflated by 2 lbs. each" quote on 11 balls was on Jan 20--if incorrect, how could the league let it sit out there (with Mort assumed to have excellent sources) for 12 days, uncorrected? I'm stunned.
lambeau said:Mort's "underinflated by 2 lbs. each" quote on 11 balls was on Jan 20--if incorrect, how could the league let it sit out there (with Mort assumed to have excellent sources) for 12 days, uncorrected? I'm stunned.
Rosey Ruzicka said:Warning- Semi-Irrational rant to follow.
I have lurked on the various iterations of SOSH forums for over 10 years now and this is the first topic that pissed me off enough to actively participate in the conversation. A couple key facts about me first.,,I have spent most of my professional career leading an analytics group in the vaccine industry. Also, I grew up in New England, but have lived in NY, NJ, and PA for the past 20 years surrounded by Giants, Jets, and Eagles fans.
Based on these experiences I am probably a little oversensitive to a few things:
The day they beat the Colts I thought to myself "win or lose in the superbowl I am happy with this season". Then the Colts whined, the media smelled blood, and "deflategate" was born. The NFL declared war on not only the NEP, but on logic and proven scientific facts as well. Things got surreal quickly, and soon I was staying up late at night writing emails to Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye explaining errors in their Ideal Gas Law calculations.
- One or two moron scientists being either dishonest or stupid enough to confuse the public on proven facts
- People trusting comments returned on Google search results over facts and logic
- People trying to cherry pick data for their analyses to give them the conclusion they want
- People hating on Bill Fucking Belichick because he wins, and is two steps ahead of the 31 other NFL franchises on pretty much everything
At this point winning the Super Bowl isn't enough. I want Belichick to exploit some minor loophole in article 4 section 3.2.97 of the rule book to find an uncoverable kickoff formation and Matthew Slater to score 7 touchdowns on onside kicks. I want them to win this game 125-0, make a public shaming of Goodell and whatever bitch owners are pulling the strings, and burn the whole fucking NFL front office to the ground. I want Jim Harbaugh to whine about it so much in the off-season he gets his own show on the Oprah Winfrey network. Fuck the 31 other owners and their bitch Goodell, fuck ESPN, fuck media who doesn't understand basic knowledge taught in high school chemistry class, and to the Seahawks...actually you guys are pretty cool, but wrong place wrong time..so fuck you too.
Byrdbrain said:And this too:
> Prior to the game, a game-day worker employed by the Patriots, a man described as elderly, took two bags of 12 footballs (one bag from each team) into the restroom near the referees' room in Gillette Stadium. The man was in the room for 98 seconds. When he exited the room, he took the balls to the field. There is video of the man entering and exiting the bathroom, but it's unclear if there is a clear shot inside the restroom.
I think it is new that the "ball attendant" is elderly. Of course he needed to piss before the game and an elderly man peeing in 98 seconds is damned fast.
Harry Hooper said:Everyone keeps saying kid, what if the attendant is a older guy with an enlarged prostate? The NFL might yet stumble into an ADA violation.
If I'm Robert Kraft I go full nuclear at this point. Goodell let the Patriots twist in the wind and get dragged through the mud for two weeks, and the whole time he knew that only one of the 12 balls even POTENTIALLY violated the laws of physics, and that ball was handled by the Colts who lobbed the complaint? He has no fucking duty to investigate every single bullshit claim that is brought to his attention. And the fact that Roger doesn't even understand this is indication enough of how unqualified he is for the job.lambeau said:Mort's "underinflated by 2 lbs. each" quote on 11 balls was on Jan 20--if incorrect, how could the league let it sit out there (with Mort assumed to have excellent sources) for 12 days, uncorrected? I'm stunned.
Well, the evidence we have is that the Colts balls were >12.5 at halftime which is scientifically curious unless they were overinflated at some point or purposely chilled prior to pre-game testing, and that the Patriots ball that made it to the Indianapolis sideline was at a lower psi than other Patriots balls. So, yes, there is circumstantial evidence of tampering by the Colts.E5 Yaz said:It's unlikely to be discovered, but there's a less than rational part of me that really hopes it's discovered that the Colts took the air out of the Jackson interception ball