#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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somebody is way too stupid...All explanations are bizarre...except conspiracies vs pats.Bill or Tom to destroy the team...some person or persons as an I.Q lower than whale shit.
Corsi said:
"Canty, as a man of utmost integrity, then immediatly submitted himself to testing for PED's, recreational drugs and Burmese Chlamydia. 'The Ravens don't sully themselves with such base conduct' he said solemnly. "
"Canty also added 'We tough the air pressure out of footballs, they finesse it in secret ' while he calmly set down his Sour Grape Sizzurp and dropped a haymaker on one of his drunken bitches"
None of this makes sense. I'm not a big football fan, but I am a Boston fan. People may cheer against the Patriots - but it's because they've been such a force for so long. They have universal respect. Universal. A great franchise.
This apparent act of cheating simply makes no sense. I cannot imagine any of the team principals possibly ordering it. You are making millions of dollars playing a game. Why mess that up by casting doubt on the game? Why kill the golden goose?
All I can imagine is that some equipment person thought they were doing the team a service.
This apparent act of cheating simply makes no sense. I cannot imagine any of the team principals possibly ordering it. You are making millions of dollars playing a game. Why mess that up by casting doubt on the game? Why kill the golden goose?
All I can imagine is that some equipment person thought they were doing the team a service.
Gregg Doyel of the Indy Star tweeted this earlier today:
Patriots allegedly deflated 11 of 12 balls. Was the 12th ball for kicking? Did Patriots rig the AFC Championship Game??
Is he f'in serious? Has he not been paying attention? There are separate balls marked with a K for kicking purposes. This toolbox is demanding that BB be suspended and he has no idea what he is talking about.
Patriots allegedly deflated 11 of 12 balls. Was the 12th ball for kicking? Did Patriots rig the AFC Championship Game??
Is he f'in serious? Has he not been paying attention? There are separate balls marked with a K for kicking purposes. This toolbox is demanding that BB be suspended and he has no idea what he is talking about.
Doyel is just using the one out he has left after calling out all of New England for predicting a big NE victory. He's also a hack of the highest order.
Disagree completely. I don't think he takes one ounce of anything seriously and is totally misread. I find him hilarious, always have.
Don Buddin's GS said:
He's not alone. The Ravens also apparently believe the Pats control the dedicated kicking balls.
My wife did babysit for the Rog back in the mid 90's. Maybe she can reach out on Facebook to call in a favor.
Anyone think we'll get another late night leak to one of the national mouthpieces ( Sheftner, Mort , Rapport LaCaforano etc ...) ?
I mean Bill theoretically has a press conference tomorrow morning and tersely staring at people, no commenting, and mumbling might not be the best look for either the NFL or the Pats....
I think it'll be a 4th rounder a precedent setting fine and league wide change in game time football handling... But that's if Goodell were reasonable or competent. He has demonstrated little of either...
I mean Bill theoretically has a press conference tomorrow morning and tersely staring at people, no commenting, and mumbling might not be the best look for either the NFL or the Pats....
I think it'll be a 4th rounder a precedent setting fine and league wide change in game time football handling... But that's if Goodell were reasonable or competent. He has demonstrated little of either...
So I've given this some thought. If *I* were going to try to manipulate these rules given Sumner's calculations and the article in the Globe it would seem kind of simple.
The equipment manager would have control of the balls obviously and would be the guy in charge of interacting with the Refs around the approval process. I'm betting there is a large laundry room used for the normal business around a professional sports team. When fully humming I bet the room is hot and humid - it would surprise me if that room didn't get to 80 degrees or more. That would be the room I would store the balls in, and would meet the Refs in to measure the inflation. I would make sure the balls were at 12.5 psi and I'm betting all the Refs know that most QBs like the ball a little under and I'm betting if they really do break out the gages each game they aren't going to fuss too much if the balls hit the lower end of the range - especially if both QBs are after the same thing. It really seems that it could be that simple. The league specifies 13 psi, they start at 12.5psi or so, the temp difference from the laundry room to the outdoors works its magic - and you are looking at the 1.5-2.0 psi difference everyone is reporting. If you want to push things, you raise the thermostat in that room a few more degrees, and make sure all the dryers are running. You take advantage of the science, you don't 'tamper' with the balls at all, everyone is happy.
While I have no idea if this is what *is* or has happened, it would seem to be that simple.
If that were the extent of it - what would/could the league do?
The equipment manager would have control of the balls obviously and would be the guy in charge of interacting with the Refs around the approval process. I'm betting there is a large laundry room used for the normal business around a professional sports team. When fully humming I bet the room is hot and humid - it would surprise me if that room didn't get to 80 degrees or more. That would be the room I would store the balls in, and would meet the Refs in to measure the inflation. I would make sure the balls were at 12.5 psi and I'm betting all the Refs know that most QBs like the ball a little under and I'm betting if they really do break out the gages each game they aren't going to fuss too much if the balls hit the lower end of the range - especially if both QBs are after the same thing. It really seems that it could be that simple. The league specifies 13 psi, they start at 12.5psi or so, the temp difference from the laundry room to the outdoors works its magic - and you are looking at the 1.5-2.0 psi difference everyone is reporting. If you want to push things, you raise the thermostat in that room a few more degrees, and make sure all the dryers are running. You take advantage of the science, you don't 'tamper' with the balls at all, everyone is happy.
While I have no idea if this is what *is* or has happened, it would seem to be that simple.
If that were the extent of it - what would/could the league do?
http://mattbrewmorphs.blogspot.com/2006/07/before-sarah-michelle-geller-became.html?m=1Papelbon's Poutine said:
There is no Rev said:
Now these guys knew how to inflate balls. Disco balls, that is.
P.S. BTW, the non-bald dude of the duo got into a motorcycle accident years and is paralyzed from waist down. Also got $4m in settlements which is a shitload in Korea but it still sucks -- kinda like rooting for Patriots and having to deal with the hate.
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SeoulSoxFan said:
I think now the thread's highest and best use is to give non members a taste of P&G to induce them not to suck on the main boards.
A leaked source is not a fact.
A report has not been issued by any NFL officials.
Every single person calling for blood and hyper accountability are doing so before any facts have been released.
I do not even trust the NFL to properly investigate this, and can this be blamed after this last year?
So many people are reacting to pure sensationalism (outright yellow journalism) and doing so with very active conflicts of interest.
Why not give them what they want?
Have Roger G. blindfolded on the SB field with Media, Owners, Coaches, former players, and all non-NEP fans packed into the stadium yelling him towards their own teams logo?
Fans not able to make it to the SB, could text in their choice.
Whichever team logo Roger lands on is the SB winner?
This way, the integrity of the game would be insured, and the screaming, self-righteous masses could finally have what they really want- true justice.
After this "SB" i don't think it would be asking to much to let the NEP and Seatle play a football game
A report has not been issued by any NFL officials.
Every single person calling for blood and hyper accountability are doing so before any facts have been released.
I do not even trust the NFL to properly investigate this, and can this be blamed after this last year?
So many people are reacting to pure sensationalism (outright yellow journalism) and doing so with very active conflicts of interest.
Why not give them what they want?
Have Roger G. blindfolded on the SB field with Media, Owners, Coaches, former players, and all non-NEP fans packed into the stadium yelling him towards their own teams logo?
Fans not able to make it to the SB, could text in their choice.
Whichever team logo Roger lands on is the SB winner?
This way, the integrity of the game would be insured, and the screaming, self-righteous masses could finally have what they really want- true justice.
After this "SB" i don't think it would be asking to much to let the NEP and Seatle play a football game
Long time fan, first time poster. Something puzzles me. Initially it was reported that the Colts interception led to the staff noticing underinflated football, which led to everything else. Then it was also reported that Colts had told referees before the game to look out for underinflated football.
If both reports were true, why didn't officials pay extra attention to the ball and/or ballboy who handled the ball? Assuming they did pay extra attention, why didn't they notice the balls were still underinflated after the interception and before halftime? Was it because they couldn't tell whether the ball was underinflated even AFTER the headsup from the Colts (incompetence)? If they had noticed the ball(s) continued to be underinflated, why did they wait until the 2nd half to ask for new balls? Shouldn't they have asked for replacement balls right away?
Same questions can be asked even if only one of the two reports were true. The entire thing sounds like a setup.
If both reports were true, why didn't officials pay extra attention to the ball and/or ballboy who handled the ball? Assuming they did pay extra attention, why didn't they notice the balls were still underinflated after the interception and before halftime? Was it because they couldn't tell whether the ball was underinflated even AFTER the headsup from the Colts (incompetence)? If they had noticed the ball(s) continued to be underinflated, why did they wait until the 2nd half to ask for new balls? Shouldn't they have asked for replacement balls right away?
Same questions can be asked even if only one of the two reports were true. The entire thing sounds like a setup.
It's being reported in numerous places, like ESPN sports science, that you literally cannot feel the difference between what the psi was and what it should have been.njnesportsfan said:
This is a non-competitive issue, we know about it because the colts leaked it to an ahole reporter and because the nfl likes being in the headlines.
