Still not sold on the consistent 2lbs for the 11 balls with that one outlier. Morts been wrong before.
ObstructedView said:So my 4th-grade son has this teacher he loves, partly because he (the teacher) is a big sports fan. The classroom has pictures of Pats and Red Sox players on the walls, and kids are encouraged to show their team spirit on designated days. Sports are incorporated into lessons and general discussion. Today my son came home with the news that this teacher had made a point of addressing the class about deflate-gate, saying that he believed the allegations and would not be rooting for the Pats going forward. Understandably, this confused and rattled my die-hard son - who of course had been innocently thrilled that his beloved team is going to the Super Bowl. My wife and I had to sit him down at dinner and discuss this with him as if it were something really serious, like 9/11, Newtown or Santa Claus. We tried to frame it in terms of how important it is to avoid jumping to conclusions without having facts, and emphasized that while his teacher is entitled to his opinions it was inappropriate for him to pass judgment.
I'm seriously tempted to contact the teacher and/or the school to express my displeasure. Am I an insane fanboy, or am I right in thinking that this was a terrible lack of judgment on the part of an educator who's dealing with impressionable young kids? What is wrong with people???
E5 Yaz said:
Well, maybe you're not as omniscient as others
Bob Ley @BobLeyESPN · 3h3 hours ago
Tom Brady's demeanor is compelling. Not defiantly 'innocent'.
GregHarris said:Still not sold on the consistent 2lbs for the 11 balls with that one outlier. Morts been wrong before.
Please point me to where it is stated that they were tested at the same time. I saw that they were tested. Also, until we know the pregame procedures, it's possible that the colts balls were overinflated.E5 Yaz said:
Please stop trying to make a point of this.
The balls Indianapolis used were in game play, and had no Psi problems
The NFL has acknowledged they were investigating the matter. That's all it takes. Notice how BB never mentioned the 2 lbs difference either.WayBackVazquez said:
Didn't the Globe say they've seen a letter from the NFL to the Patriots? Do you really think BB and TB would be up there talking about how shocked they are if they were just shocked by Mort's report?
But couldn't the Colts balls have initially been inflated much more than the minimum, while the Patriots balls were right at the minimum, legal level?E5 Yaz said:
Please stop trying to make a point of this.
The balls Indianapolis used were in game play, and had no Psi problems
rodderick said:Belichick came right out and owned up to Spygate the first chance he had, the team cut Aaron Hernandez before the investigations were even concluded, if there's one thing I'm 99% sure about is that they wouldn't be addressing the issue in this way if they knew what went on. It doesn't jive with how they have operated in the past, like them or not they've never tried to hide from these issues.
Yes this is certainly very possible.Dollar said:But couldn't the Colts balls have initially been inflated much more than the minimum, while the Patriots balls were right at the minimum, legal level?
CaptainLaddie said:don't bother responding to him. he openly admitted to enjoying trolling pats fans. he's a fucking moron.
https://twitter.com/dougkyednesn/status/558428619304108034Eddie Jurak said:
drleather2001 said:L O L
Using 'em in the first half and bustin' 'em in the second half. Amirite?DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
Marciano490 said:
And did those conform to a uniform weight, diameter and whatnot that you had previously taken the time to reduce to the decimal place to fit exacting specifications that you then checked against NCAA rules? Or, did you just shuffle them around in your hands a bit and go with the best in the batch from week to week?
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000462315/article/colts-dqwell-jackson-i-didnt-know-football-had-less-pressureJackson does, however, recall one interesting moment during the first half that has something to do with the latest controversy. He recalls, during a television timeout, there was an especially long delay that prompted him to approach an official.
The game official mentioned something about their efforts to locate a usable football. Shortly after, Jackson noticed that the Patriots were using the Colts' footballs late in the first half. Jackson said it was odd to him that New England couldn't find a football to use, especially in the AFC Championship Game.
But he never understood that what he was witnessing what would indeed be the beginnings of a controversy that has engulfed the sports world since.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
https://twitter.com/dougkyednesn/status/558428619304108034Eddie Jurak said:
I don't know what value it has... but Brady did... and then immediately paused as he realized he had. I think he was likely coached to not go there or to reference a smaller number like BB did. He made a 13 versus 11 reference.GregHarris said:The NFL has acknowledged they were investigating the matter. That's all it takes. Notice how BB never mentioned the 2 lbs difference either.
Link the Globe report.
I tend to doubt it's true. The balls come from the offense's sideline.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
Why? How do you know? What if they started the game at 13.5 and dropped to 12.5, and the Pats started at 12.5 and dropped to 11.5? The point is no actual facts or exact numbers have been reported or info from the NFL besides one tweet from Mortensen who has been wrong before.E5 Yaz said:
Please stop trying to make a point of this.
The balls Indianapolis used were in game play, and had no Psi problems
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000462315/article/colts-dqwell-jackson-i-didnt-know-football-had-less-pressureThe game official mentioned something about their efforts to locate a usable football. Shortly after, Jackson noticed that the Patriots were using the Colts' footballs late in the first half. Jackson said it was odd to him that New England couldn't find a football to use, especially in the AFC Championship Game.
He said in the story that he's still looking for it. He gave it to someone to hold for him as a souvenir, but it ended up being turned in.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
drleather2001 said:And of course the media is deliberately obfuscating the facts. Talking about "2 pounds lighter" instead of 2 PSI...
nothumb said:I tweeted some of the more rational objections to this shitshow at Olbermann because he has been tarding up my feed with his hot takes. Insta blocked. I guess he responds to the mouth breathers and blocks you if you appear to have two brain cells to rub together but disagree with him.
The timing of his call out is funny considering that last tweet.leetinsley38 said:Why? How do you know? What if they started the game at 13.5 and dropped to 12.5, and the Pats started at 12.5 and dropped to 11.5? The point is no actual facts or exact numbers have been reported or info from the NFL besides one tweet from Mortensen who has been wrong before.
I had to unfollow. This whole clownshow has really trimmed down who I follow.nothumb said:I tweeted some of the more rational objections to this shitshow at Olbermann because he has been tarding up my feed with his hot takes. Insta blocked. I guess he responds to the mouth breathers and blocks you if you appear to have two brain cells to rub together but disagree with him.
Eddie Jurak said:
nothumb said:I tweeted some of the more rational objections to this shitshow at Olbermann because he has been tarding up my feed with his hot takes. Insta blocked. I guess he responds to the mouth breathers and blocks you if you appear to have two brain cells to rub together but disagree with him.
findguapo said:Holy jesus, 1565 users are reading this topic. Good work, SOSH.
If this is true, then it explains why the Patriots only scored 17 points in the first half.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Patriots were using Colts balls in the first half? Holy shit if true. I just fell in love with this story if it's right.
If Jackson kept the ball that he picked and it's a Colts ball, that would fucking be hilarious.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Ok, thanks -- so the period when the refs or whoever the fuck decided to confiscate the footballs is earlier than half time. It seems like it was some point in the first half. That's new info.
Not sure what it's relevant to, but holy fuck is this entire thing [becoming] silly.
I'll admit, I looked.E5 Yaz said:
You'd think with the Sox trading for Strasburg, most of them would be elsewhere
findguapo said:Full disclaimer - I am a Steelers fan. Does anyone here believe what Brady said in the press conference? Do you believe that Brady, who has said in the past he likes the balls deflated, has no idea how the balls were possibly deflated between the ref check and the game? I think this is a really stupid thing, and every NFL QB probably tells the ball boys to get the balls exactly how they want. I also think Brady was lying through his teeth today in his press conference.