ifmanis5 said:Moreso with Jenkins.
Wetzel today: "He (Kraft) accepted the Wells report as fact." Uh, that never happened. Kraft declined to fight the penalty but slammed that report and all shenanigan allegations. Jenkins today was perfect.
Money well spent, can we crowd source it?soxhop411 said:Wait. The only way to fire Roger is to pay a $150 million buyout?
Ed Hillel said:Where is that 150 million Goode clause coming from? I mean, what leverage would this stooge possibly have to pull that off? Did Lester Munson rep the NFL in these negotiations?
Nowhere in his ruling did Judge Berman declare Teflon Tom innocent.
No, it was the NFL being guilty of not adequately finding Teflon Tom guilty.
OnWisc said:Not in any way that won't eventually be overturned by a neutral party. Go for it.
MonstahsInLeft said:Why do they need the league to play along? The Pats need to have a sideline display for every game this year with a football hooked up to a pressure gauge so the whole world can watch the pressure changes as the game goes on.
E5 Yaz said:MikeReiss Mike Reiss
Bill Belichick was asked how relieved he was to have uncertainty of Tom Brady's situation resolved, and said he would only talk about game.
You could out out Goodell on a 747 piloted by a blindfolded seven year old with a rabid bear serving as flight attendant, and the kid and the bear would be fighting it out for second and third most unqualified for their job.reggiecleveland said:
And they KNOW that the Pats were guilty because they always push the boundaries of the rules. Always looking for an edge. They have no respect for the rules. Plus what about all the times they never got caught? They have a history of cheating.ifmanis5 said:Steve Serby is a joke and so is the Post: http://nypost.com/2015/09/03/lying-tom-brady-proves-that-cheaters-do-win/
That's a common theme I've seen today. The Pats got off an a technicality but they were up to something, only Goodell is too terrible at his job to catch them. Pathetic, sore loser logic. I'll expect Francesa and many others to take the same angle.
New york writers are often the most provincial idiots in the country. A writer in Kansas City or Milwaukee or Houston covering his city's sports team has to worry about seeming like a rube. Because the ready made narrative is that the guy writing in Kansas City is a hopelessly unsophisticated local yokel with no idea of the horizons beyond his myopic vision. The writer in new york feels like he's immune from such accusations; so stone cold nitwits like Serby spew their loathing for anything not part of new york or an adversary of a new york team in a fashion that would make the KC writer blush and just assume that they can get away with it.Dahabenzapple2 said:And they KNOW that the Pats were guilty because they always push the boundaries of the rules. Always looking for an edge. They have no respect for the rules. Plus what about all the times they never got caught? They have a history of cheating.
All lies. All part of the continuing narrative.
In for it too. SOSH sponsored?mwonow said:
Or it could be something that 5-6 of the thousands (millions?) of Foxboro-area Pats fans set up themselves: put a ball outside at kickoff time with a thermometer and a pressure gauge and a web cam, feed into a website with a mobile-friendly interface, replace the balls at the start of the second half. I'm guessing that would get enough coverage to make an impact - maybe enough to shame the NFL into posting real numbers as a type of rebuttal.
The whole thing could probably be set up by someone who knew what they were doing for a grand or so. I'm not local to Foxboro nor do I know much about setting this kind of thing up, but I'm in for a C-note if anyone can find a project lead...
Someone call Ross Perot. We've got a TV show for him to produce.shoosh77 said:In for it too. SOSH sponsored?
I also daydreamed that Kraft held a 15 min interview before the game with a big slide show:
Show the obviously worked pictures in the Wells report
Show the parts about the rules and then how Indy breaks them
Show the Jets ball tampering and result
Show the Favre non compliance and result
Show the Chargers towel and result
Show the Panthers incident from last year and result
Then have a short time lapse video on gas law and pressure gauge
Then do a couple minutes on the ridiculous penalties for Spygate, uncapped year and bounty gate if you want to really poke the bear.
Close it with, have some integrity and clean up your house. And we look forward to picking 32 again in the upcoming draft. Mic drop.
God dammit, that site really needs to add an "email me when it is in stock" feature.( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:That God damn great looking sideline knit hat from last season that sold out in about 5 minutes is available again from the Pats pro shop. It was waiting for me in the mailbox when I got home today. Everything is coming up Aces!
PayrodsFirstClutchHit said:This applies to the majority of the authors of all the articles critical of the judge's decision.
We will be hearing this theme forever. And the "yeah, but you know they really cheated, right?" meme.ifmanis5 said:Steve Serby is a joke and so is the Post: http://nypost.com/2015/09/03/lying-tom-brady-proves-that-cheaters-do-win/
That's a common theme I've seen today. The Pats got off an a technicality but they were up to something, only Goodell is too terrible at his job to catch them. Pathetic, sore loser logic. I'll expect Francesa and many others to take the same angle.
Watched about 30 seconds of it and couldn't focus on anything other than Carters painted on eyebrows.CantKeepmedown said:Chris Carter filling in for Golic on Mike & Mike this morning. They just teased, "Did you hear what Tedy Bruschi had to say yesterday? You will, coming up after the break." Carter groaned and rolled his eyes. I usually wouldn't devote any time to ESPN in the morning, but might have to check this out.
His fall guy?pappymojo said:What is Randy Moss's relationship with Carter like these days?
If I had the gif making skills I'd recut the Red Dragon scene between Dolarhyde and Lounds, with Brady playing the former and Goodell the latter. Instead of Dolarhyde's slides I'd put teams followed by scoreboards. But alas, I do not have those skills.shoosh77 said:In for it too. SOSH sponsored?
I also daydreamed that Kraft held a 15 min interview before the game with a big slide show:
Show the obviously worked pictures in the Wells report
Show the parts about the rules and then how Indy breaks them
Show the Jets ball tampering and result
Show the Favre non compliance and result
Show the Chargers towel and result
Show the Panthers incident from last year and result
Then have a short time lapse video on gas law and pressure gauge
Then do a couple minutes on the ridiculous penalties for Spygate, uncapped year and bounty gate if you want to really poke the bear.
Close it with, have some integrity and clean up your house. And we look forward to picking 32 again in the upcoming draft. Mic drop.
Average Reds said:Watched about 30 seconds of it and couldn't focus on anything other than Carters painted on eyebrows.
Ed Hillel said:TJ Ward is saying he won't be able to get his suspension overturned because his name isn't Brady. Looks like we may have finally broached the race card post-decision. We can ignore Rice/Peterson btw...
Both the News and the Post seem more focused on the smell of Goodell's blood in the water.singaporesoxfan said:Less "Tom got away with one" than I expected.
Erik Hanson's Hook said:
Same here. Looks like someone cut a car tire in half and glued a piece over each eye.
Harry Hooper said:From the Sally Jenkins piece:
“When you do something like hire an outside investigator like Ted Wells into the Patriots investigation, you’re still paying him, and Robert Kraft who owns the Patriots is paying you,” Nichols said. “What steps can you guys take in the future to mitigate some of those conflict-of-interest issues?”
You can argue about the question itself; Goodell was within his rights, most thought, in having a lawyer with investigative experience look into the Patriots’ case, and if the league was going to have a team look into the case, of course they were going to have to pay the team. But the principle of the question was justifiable: Why didn’t you get an outside counsel with no ties whatever to the NFL, instead of one that previously worked for the league in the Dolphins’ investigation last year, to look into the case?
Goodell’s answer seemed to belittle Nichols: “Well, Rachel, I don’t agree with you in a lot of the assumptions you make in your question. I think we have had people who have had uncompromising integrity. I think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. Somebody has to pay [the investigators], Rachel. So unless you’re volunteering, which I don’t think you are, we will do that.”
America wasn’t inclined to like Goodell before the press conference. That response made things worse. At a time when the league needed to show its compassionate and understanding side, particularly to women, Goodell chose snark. As Nichols traveled around the country on her sports beat over the last few months, she got tremendous support from fans and viewers. “What's been notable,” Nichols told me, “more than any one exchange has been that it's such a wide range of people who have said something to me: the guy next to me on the plane to Atlanta, the gas station guy in Boston, a mom at the toddler story-time hour at the public library. And what's struck me from those conversations is just how deep the lifelong relationships are that people form with their [favorite NFL] teams, and how badly they want in return is to just be heard and have their concerns taken seriously.”
I doubt very much they'll even take the measurements. And if or when a journalist asks, they'll say they are compiling the information for a year end report, until then it is confidential or proprietary, and take away the reporter's press credentials
reggiecleveland said:
Nowhere in his ruling did Judge Berman declare Teflon Tom innocent.
No, it was the NFL being guilty of not adequately finding Teflon Tom guilty.
Well, you have named the exact reason why Goodell would lose his job, if he ever does. As soon as the owners decide that he's more trouble than he is worth, he's out. Whether and when that happens is anyone's guess.JimD said:I don’t expect Goodell to get canned, but only because the majority of owners are men who are used to getting their own way and are reflexively reacting to the popular anti-Goodell sentiment as a challenge to them. The stories now coming out about Roger’s comportment during hearings and his habit of taking any pushback from the opposite party as a personal insult (complete with storming red-faced out of the room) should be a giant red flag to those owners that their billion dollar investments absolutely can be diminished by this man. Is this really the guy you want as your point man when the next round of concussion lawsuits hits the league?