Jesus, this guy's counterargument to everything was "well, sir, I know your Tom Brady's Dad, but that's not what the NFL says!"Van Everyman said:It's crazy that his dad finally popped and called into a show two days after the case was decided. He sounded exactly like every other Pats fan – same arguments in the face of insanity, same level of exasperation.
People should listen to the audio. Before Brady's dad calls in, the host is literally asking if you started a team would you rather have a "cheater, bad sport and a big baby" like Tom Brady ("a certain kind of player in a system") or a "winner" like Tim Tebow. Even after all this I think I forget how rock fucking dumb people around the country are about this kind of stuff.
I thought so, too, but it does sound like him and the radio station apparently confirmed it.TheShynessClinic said:What father refers to his son by his last name? I call Hoax.
I would expect the focus to be on moving forward but was a bit surprised he also didn't reiterate his innocent.Ed Hillel said:I agree, but he should have at least qualified the apology line. "I apologize to anyone I have offended the past 8 months...I have been under a large amout of stress and have not been myself." Something like that.
He's probably not changing any minds on Facebook anyway, though, so not a huge deal. He should do a sitdown or two some point this season, and I would be surprised if he didn't.
CSteinhardt said:
Mort accepts his apology.
Eddie Jurak said:The rodent's new clickbait:
Brady cleared on procedural issues, but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent
Given what Manning looks like now, im just telling those fans "man Manning fucking sucks now that he can't deflate the balls".jercra said:This is delusional. I live in Denver and work with many die hard, life long Broncos fans that have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about when I bring up their salary cap violations. In addition, sports talk radio out here has been insufferable since the ruling (and really since January). This morning was all about how T.J Ward, caught on video throwing a glass at a woman, is the victim and Brady is getting away with cheating. The quote this morning was something along the lines of "So TJ Ward get's 1 game for 'allegedly' committing a misdemeanor off the field and Tom Brady gets nothing for corrupting the integrity of the game by cheating in the AFC Championship Game". Denver fans are some of the worst. I'd rather talk to Jets and Yankee fans.
ifmanis5 said:And of course, right on cue, Volin chimes in with a Hot Take 'Brady may have gotten off on a technicality, but he's still guilty of something' column. Guy really wants an ESPN gig.
This line of thought seems to be the takeaway from all the lazy press members who were happy to re-tweet Mort yet not do reporting of their own and dish out whatever tripe RG sells them. Totally unsurprising and pathetic.
Yeah, I just read the Mark Kiszla column in the Denver Post, and wasn't sure if it was a parody or not.jercra said:This is delusional. I live in Denver and work with many die hard, life long Broncos fans that have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about when I bring up their salary cap violations. In addition, sports talk radio out here has been insufferable since the ruling (and really since January). This morning was all about how T.J Ward, caught on video throwing a glass at a woman, is the victim and Brady is getting away with cheating. The quote this morning was something along the lines of "So TJ Ward get's 1 game for 'allegedly' committing a misdemeanor off the field and Tom Brady gets nothing for corrupting the integrity of the game by cheating in the AFC Championship Game". Denver fans are some of the worst. I'd rather talk to Jets and Yankee fans.
I don't think he's going to say "my son" over and over though. The other alternatives are Tom, Tommy, NE quarterback, what else? Tom Brady sounds right. As for TB Sr's voice being in a higher tone, the talk show host's voice was pretty high also. As Natty Sez said, the station he called in to, KGO, is just part sports. I happened to catch the end of TB Sr's call-in on a repeat of it on KNBR 680 which is almost all sports. I think it was TB Sr., but I hope there's no high blood pressure, etc. going on with him. What the KGO guy Franklin said about Brady vs. Tebow should be grounds for his firing though. Ludicrous. OK, a verbal, then a written warning for his next idiotic utterances, and then fire him.TheShynessClinic said:What father refers to his son by his last name? I call Hoax.
speedracer said:
Berman's decision doesn't prove that Brady's innocent. A proper analysis of the football PSI data does. Math class is hard though.
Part of this pisses me off, but this is the world that Goodell and his cronies created when they made the Brady case a Capital offense. Goodell wanted to rebrand himself after the Rice fiasco, but only fell on his face and made every single punishment questionable because of it. Why would he even want the power that he claimed to have after this failure? And tj ward is obviously nothing but a thug.The Gray Eagle said:Yeah, I just read the Mark Kiszla column in the Denver Post, and wasn't sure if it was a parody or not.
It starts like this:
"OK, let me get this straight: In the NFL, it's a big no-no to throw a tantrum in a strip club, but no problem if a star quarterback throws a deflated football in the AFC championship game. And that's why Broncos safety T.J. Ward will be suspended for the season opener, but Tom Brady was issued a get-out-of-jail-free card to play on national television for New England.
Hey, don't ask me to explain it. This is the messed-up football world that commissioner Roger Goodell created. Blame him.
Brady skates and another Bronco gets busted.
"My last name's not Brady," said Ward, explaining why he's the player who will be forced to sit out a game."
I mean who among us hasn't thrown a tantrum in a strip club and chucked some glasses at bartenders? But apparently that is a no-no in the NFL, while the guy was accused of more probably than not having knowledge of someone deflating a football by a couple of ticks of air pressure gets his four game suspension overturned only because the investigation was a total farce?
Clearly, the Broncos are the real victims in this whole thing.
H78 said:Seriously. I'll never get what more people want from this guy. He's never in the news for legitimate problems, is heavily involved in his communities and various charitable organizations, takes pay cuts for the betterment of his team, never shoves the "Jesus" card down everyone's throat, puts his teammates and coaches first, was drafted late and worked his ass off to get where he's at (and still takes none of it for granted), has been loyal to the league and his team's fanbase, never throws anyone under the bus - EVER, and somehow manages to never take himself too seriously.
Honestly, World, what the fuck? Tom Brady literally is the personification of the American Dream. Even better, because he's 0% dickhead about his success, which 99% of us wouldn't pull off nearly as well as he does if we all experienced similar success. Get off of the guy's ass for a second and just appreciate that people like him - who always keep the "big picture" in life in mind - still exist.
Tom Brady is an excellent human being. Hate him for beating your team, fine, but respect the guy for what he is and where he started; if you can't do that you're just a miserable douchebag. This is a dude who was handed nothing, earned everything, and never for a second rubs it in anyone's face. Again - what more do you want?
speedracer said:Denver people are the best, considering the salary cap cheating and the PED violations (most in the NFL, according to yourteamcheats.com).
@BartHubbuch Interesting factual nugget: Richard Berman's former law-firm colleague Stephen Case is on Columbia's BOT Emeriti with ... Robert Kraft.
One of the top things on the list of what to do now is find out all the evidence the NFL had. They have a record of withholding exculpatory evidence. The Wells report talked at length about how unusual it was for McNally to take the balls unsupervised, when they had video of him taking them out twice, the second time after the testing at halftime, without anyone saying boo. They also stated that TB denied talking to Jastremski about the deflated footballs, when the transcript they tried to hide clearly showed that he did acknowledge talking about it. Who would be surprised if they had a picture snapped on some cellphone showing Anderson doing the pre-game measurements with theLogo gauge, and them letting Wells say the measurements were done with the non-Logo gauge since that hurts the Patriots?Gambler7 said:He said Jastremski and McNally testified they never did anything and it was completely left out of the report. This is a new fact isn't it?
And greasing unis, and, you know, actually filming practices.Harry Hooper said:
Don't forget Shanahan's leg-breaking offensive line tactics.
Ed Hillel said:And greasing unis, and, you know, actually filming practices.
Per a league source, the NFL currently is investigating four total cases of game-integrity violations. Three are known: #DeflateGate, the Browns’ sideline-texting scandal, and the Falcons’ crowd-noise controversy.
I thought he claimed to be trolling us all along.SeoulSoxFan said:
Interesting factual nugget. I can connect Bart Hubbuch to my bibimbap vendor in Seoul in 6 steps, as well as Richard Berman and Chris Berman.
"Look, guys, I didn't want to tell you this until I was sure but Brady isn't suspended."ifmanis5 said:Watching ESPN's puzzled reaction on Thursday morning's decision reminded me of when Spinal Tap was informed that their album cover was sexist. At first they had no idea what that word was or what it meant. Then after it was explained to them, their attitude was 'yeah, but still.'
ifmanis5 said:Watching ESPN's puzzled reaction on Thursday morning's decision reminded me of when Spinal Tap was informed that their album cover was sexist. At first they had no idea what that word was or what it meant. Then after it was explained to them, their attitude was 'yeah, but still.'
Does that guy work for ESPN? A "winner" like Tebow? Once he says that nonsense, everything else that comes after has to be disregarded.Van Everyman said:It's crazy that his dad finally popped and called into a show two days after the case was decided. He sounded exactly like every other Pats fan same arguments in the face of insanity, same level of exasperation.
People should listen to the audio. Before Brady's dad calls in, the host is literally asking if you started a team would you rather have a "cheater, bad sport and a big baby" like Tom Brady ("a certain kind of player in a system") or a "winner" like Tim Tebow. Even after all this I think I forget how rock fucking dumb people around the country are about this kind of stuff.
@BartHubbuch Interesting factual nugget: Richard Berman's former law-firm colleague Stephen Case is on Columbia's BOT Emeriti with ... Robert Kraft.
BTW -- Florio says that he played portions of the call to Tom Curran, who knows the dad. Curran says it's the dad.CoffeeNerdness said:So, is TB's dad on the White List?
Skip to 3:30.Harry Hooper said:BTW, any links to either video or audio clips of Bruschi slamming Goodell on Thursday on ESPN would be greatly appreciated.
And the NFL picked SDNY.PedroKsBambino said:
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There's 150 partners at Davis Polk, and about 35 people on Columbia's Trustees Emeriti http://secretary.columbia.edu/trustees-columbia-university/emeriti. I think we can thus conclude that absent other info, it is more probable than not that Stephen Case and Bob Kraft are generally aware of each other and that there is no reason to conclude Bob Kraft and Richard Berman are.
Also on that Columbia board: an actual competent commissioner (David Stern) and Second Circuit judge Jose Cabranes.
Which was when? Before or after Wells hire?Myt1 said:The second they thought about investigating a player.
Goodell: We want to suspend this fucker for 8 games. Think you can come up with something?tims4wins said:At what point did the NFL realize that this was a potential CBA issue? Was it before or after they hired Wells? Before or after the Wells report came out? Before or after the suspension was handed out? I am really curious as to the timeline of when this went from a cover your ass operation to an attack on the CBA.
Wells was hired to investigate Brady so it would have had to have been before.tims4wins said:Which was when? Before or after Wells hire?
If they can believed it would have been during the investigation when Brady didn't turn over his phone.tims4wins said:At what point did the NFL realize that this was a potential CBA issue? Was it before or after they hired Wells? Before or after the Wells report came out? Before or after the suspension was handed out? I am really curious as to the timeline of when this went from a cover your ass operation to an attack on the CBA.
ipol said:
The second the NFL thought of having an investigation, if not before.tims4wins said:Which was when? Before or after Wells hire?
garzooma said:One of the top things on the list of what to do now is find out all the evidence the NFL had. They have a record of withholding exculpatory evidence. The Wells report talked at length about how unusual it was for McNally to take the balls unsupervised, when they had video of him taking them out twice, the second time after the testing at halftime, without anyone saying boo. They also stated that TB denied talking to Jastremski about the deflated footballs, when the transcript they tried to hide clearly showed that he did acknowledge talking about it. Who would be surprised if they had a picture snapped on some cellphone showing Anderson doing the pre-game measurements with theLogo gauge, and them letting Wells say the measurements were done with the non-Logo gauge since that hurts the Patriots?
crystalline said:The second the NFL thought of having an investigation, if not before.
The Incognito case and Bountygate both had the same approach as DFG: absolve the owners, throw players under the bus, and incriminate coaches if you have to.
Every investigation run by Goodell is a vehicle for protecting the owners and going after players.
Interesting factual nugget: Judge Berman began his career with the law firm that represented the NFL in the USFLs antitrust suit, and got a result that essentially ran the USFL out of business.SeoulSoxFan said:Interesting factual nugget. I can connect Bart Hubbuch to my bibimbap vendor in Seoul in 6 steps, as well as Richard Berman and Chris Berman.