In other words, they are positioning themselves that the fact that the ideal gas doesn't matter and the Patriots' penalities are not for the underinflation, but the process issues where McNally took the balls without explicit approval and went into the bathroom with them where evidence shows he tampered with the balls even if there was no substantial deflation at the time. This would be a ridiculous argument since the Wells report went to great lengths to "explain" that the balls could not have ended at the PSI they were. Taking the ideal gas law out of play as a defense removes the most conclusive evidence that nothing happened to the balls and shuts down any talk of giving back the picks. (Of course, Vincent is a known idiot and is probably still unaware of the IGL and isn't calculating enough to go with that as a plan.)
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Troy Vincent today whe I asked him to clarify what "no violations" means:View attachment 1836
Oh I agree with you, a far more devious and calculating person would couch everything they say in regards to this whole nightmare. Vincent is not that person. He is speaking from a cue card with instructions not to make things worse.Let's not pretend that Troy Vincent is making any decisions of consequence with regard to this case and how it has been or was handled.
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Kind of stunning that he still finds a way to muck things up.Oh I agree with you, a far more devious and calculating person would couch everything they say in regards to this whole nightmare. Vincent is not that person. He is speaking from a cue card with instructions not to make things worse.
Thank god they didn't "randomly" audit the Pats game against the Chiefs when the refs forgot them at the hotel, didn't notice until an hour after the time they were supposed to check it and had the State Police escort go get them. INTEGRITY!In other words, they are positioning themselves that the fact that the ideal gas doesn't matter and the Patriots' penalities are not for the underinflation, but the process issues where McNally took the balls without explicit approval and went into the bathroom with them where evidence shows he tampered with the balls even if there was no substantial deflation at the time. This would be a ridiculous argument since the Wells report went to great lengths to "explain" that the balls could not have ended at the PSI they were. Taking the ideal gas law out of play as a defense removes the most conclusive evidence that nothing happened to the balls and shuts down any talk of giving back the picks. (Of course, Vincent is a known idiot and is probably still unaware of the IGL and isn't calculating enough to go with that as a plan.)
At designated games, selected at random, the game balls used in the first half, will be collected by the kicking ball coordinator (KBC) at halftime and the league's security representative will escort the KBC to the locker room.
During halftime, the balls from both teams will be inspected and the PSI results will be measured and recorded by the two designated members of the crew who inspected them during the pregame. Once measured, those game balls will then be secured by the security representative and removed from play. The backup balls will then be used for the second half.
Two misspellings and a misquote. You're St. Patty's Day drunk, aren't you?Let's make no mistake, Troy Vincent and the NFL know exactly what they are doing
Let's make no mistake, Troy vinc....
I don't ever have the heart to full Rugio the guy.
They don't want to know, and they certainly don't want to create an evidentiary trail that will unmask them as the fools that we know them to be.So after making a huge deal out of ball pressure, they didn't even follow their own revised procedures...in Year 1?
Right, so they should have been a bit smarter about how they designed their new procedure. I thought there was no way they would deviate from it, given the attention. They even gave themselves an out by saying it would only be done in randomly selected games, but they can't even admit to following that much.They don't want to know, and they certainly don't want to create an evidentiary trail that will unmask them as the fools that we know them to be.
Never ascribe to alcohol what is perfectly explained by stupidity. But I appreciate the benefit of the doubt.Two misspellings and a misquote. You're St. Patty's Day drunk, aren't you?
Yes, he didn't say they didn't test the PSI, but we're pointing out how transparently deceptive all of their statements are. If all they have to do to make sure that there are no violations is have a ball handling procedure, then there would be no need to randomly test the balls at halftime.Where did he say that they didn't test the psi? My read is that they are very specifically speaking to the procedures here in order to make a statement about no violations. They can say that and be truthful. They just aren't being terribly honest about it not pertaining to psi as the vast majority would read it. We all know what the psi readings indicated and 1 we won't get the numbers and 2 they won't address it.
Goodell is giving a speech to head coaches, owners, etc. in a banquet room. Belichick is walking down the hall in the opposite direction.
Oh good, new fuel for the "Belichick is arrogant" fire. The NFL doesn't want to be overshadowed by a silly basketball tournament on the 11pm Sportscenter.
Patriots get slammed for another bathroom break.Oh good, new fuel for the "Belichick is arrogant" fire. The NFL doesn't want to be overshadowed by a silly basketball tournament on the 11pm Sportscenter.
I'm not waiting for the seas to part:Sports Hub reporting that Kraft, speaking at the owners meetings, has indicated that he has asked the league for the picks back
If he has to defend himself to thr 2nd circuit against the allegations, does that means it has enough legs to potentially damage his case?Max Stendahl @MaxLaw360 43s44 seconds ago
JUST IN: NFL lawyer Paul Clement writes letter to 2nd Circuit denying that he made false statements during Deflategate appeal hearing
Only the judges themselves know how much weight they will give it, but by definition, it has that potential.If he has to defend himself to thr 2nd circuit against the allegations, does that means it has enough legs to potentially damage his case?
Yeah but deference.Isn't there a huge difference between the conversations "exclusively" about ball prep and "primarily" about ball prep considering it's one of the reasons he's being punished becauseRoger didn't find it credible that Brady would talk "exclusively" about it when he never said that. Isn't that the entire argument Blecker (among others) made? Doesn't seem like an immaterial distinction there.
Italics are from the letter itself.The conclusion that the unprecedented discussion and meeting focused on the deflation allegations is the unhelpful inference that Mr. Brady’s Super Bowl preparation explanation was designed to avoid. Thus, what is relevant is that the Commissioner rejected as not credible the only innocent explanation Mr. Brady offered. Such a finding not only is entitled to deference but underscores that Mr. Brady’s credibility was front and center in the appeal before the Commissioner, which was the point of the colloquy at oral argument.
Is he suggesting that if Brady had discussed the deflation charges with Jastremski prior to the Super Bowl it would not have been innocent and would only be the work of a guilty party? What the fuck?
I agree with most of this, but would add that it was the cronies under Goodell who made the initial mistakes. Goodell backed up his guys and then took any questions about the process as a personal insult.I honestly view him as a conduit to what all the owners are telling him behind closed doors.
Goodell is awful by association, but the other 31 owners letting this happen for no reason other than they're sore losers is the real problem.
If all 31 stood up and asked, "Roger, did IGL prove to be a factor in football PSI levels in 2015?"
And Goodell responds, "Yes."
And the owners said, "Then they didn't do anything wrong, let's not ruin competitive balance in the league because of a false accusation."
This wouldn't be an issue anymore.
The other owners want to penalize the Patriots because they've been too good for too long. That's at the root of what's happening here. These DG team sanctions need to be referred to as "Excessive Dominance Sanctions." That's what they are; it has really little to do with Goodell at the end of the day. He's just a puppet; a figurehead. We can't lose track of how important it is to realize that.
Too bad the globe is incapable of writing it.There really is a Globe Spotlight story here waiting to be launched that will be both fascinating and damning. Someday this will all surface, and the truth will prevail.