While we understandably get caught up in the Brady Vs Manning debate, Drew Brees deserves some love.
A post in the http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/90397-what-to-expect-from-brady-in-2015-16/ thread about Brady getting pissed and keeping this up for 4 or 5 more years made me look at his career numbers.
What did I see?
That Drew Brees has been fucking awesome. While I knew he was "pretty damn good" he rarely popped into my head as an All time great. That has changed.
I will compare Brees and Brady not to disparage one or the other but to compare 2 All time great QBs.
Age
Brees 36
Brady 37
Seasons
Brees 13 (+1 GS in 2001)
Brady 13 (+1 GS in 2008)
Yards
Brees 56033 (4th All time 1+ more seasons to move Past Marino)
Brady 53258 (5th Assuming Brees keeps moving up.....2+ years to pass Marino)
Completions
Brees 4937 (Currently 4th Will pass Marino for 3rd about 2 games in)
Brady 4551 (Could pass Marino for 4th all time this season)
TDs
Brees (4th with 396. Will probably pass Marino for 3rd this season.)
Brady (5th with 392. Will probably pass Marino for 4th and COULD pass Brees for 3rd)
Passer rating
Brees (7th 95.4 ...trending up Last 3 years was 96.3, 104.7, 97.0)
Brady (5th 95.9 ...Standing pat or slightly trending up 98.7, 87.3, 97.4) (yes I realize that the average is trending down due to the 87.3...but in years with a fully operational Death Gronk trending up)
Record
Brees 117-84 (9th all time, Tied with Montana, played for a .500 SD team for 4 years should pass Tarkenton for 6th all time, 3+ years to Marino and Elway)
Brady 160-47 (what can you say...Currently 3rd...probably needs 2 years after Manning retires to pass him, Favre could should fall to him in 3 years)
INTs
Brees (194, 29th all time)
Brady (143 61st all time)
Sacked
Brees (300, 40th all time)
Brady (364, 17th all time)
(SO one throws more INTs.....one takes more sacks. INTs are worse....but interesting how similar they are)
Attempts
Brees (4th, 7458)
Brady (6th 7168, Should pass Elway for 5th about 4 games in)
Comp %
Brees 66.2
Brady 63.5
Despite the INTs....
Notables
Brees (2x AP Off Player of the year, 1x Player of year in 2009, 9x Pro Bowler, 1x 1st tm All pro, 1 time SB champ)
Brady (2x AP Off Player of the year, 1x Player of year in 2007, 10x Pro Bowler, 2x 1st tn All pro, 4 time SB champ, 2x League MVP)
Hard to bag on Brees too much considering Manning and Brady have taken most of this hardware.
Guess I was a tad surprised at how comparable they are. Should Brees be in the "Top 5" of all times conversation with room to grow? (counting stats wise....probably not another SB in the cards).
He has checked the SB block (same number of wins as Manning (and his was head to head) and Favre) and is going to pass Marino in pretty much all the counting stats this year.
Seems a shame that he is the "other guy" in conversations about 2000's Qbs.
A post in the http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/90397-what-to-expect-from-brady-in-2015-16/ thread about Brady getting pissed and keeping this up for 4 or 5 more years made me look at his career numbers.
What did I see?
That Drew Brees has been fucking awesome. While I knew he was "pretty damn good" he rarely popped into my head as an All time great. That has changed.
I will compare Brees and Brady not to disparage one or the other but to compare 2 All time great QBs.
Age
Brees 36
Brady 37
Seasons
Brees 13 (+1 GS in 2001)
Brady 13 (+1 GS in 2008)
Yards
Brees 56033 (4th All time 1+ more seasons to move Past Marino)
Brady 53258 (5th Assuming Brees keeps moving up.....2+ years to pass Marino)
Completions
Brees 4937 (Currently 4th Will pass Marino for 3rd about 2 games in)
Brady 4551 (Could pass Marino for 4th all time this season)
TDs
Brees (4th with 396. Will probably pass Marino for 3rd this season.)
Brady (5th with 392. Will probably pass Marino for 4th and COULD pass Brees for 3rd)
Passer rating
Brees (7th 95.4 ...trending up Last 3 years was 96.3, 104.7, 97.0)
Brady (5th 95.9 ...Standing pat or slightly trending up 98.7, 87.3, 97.4) (yes I realize that the average is trending down due to the 87.3...but in years with a fully operational Death Gronk trending up)
Record
Brees 117-84 (9th all time, Tied with Montana, played for a .500 SD team for 4 years should pass Tarkenton for 6th all time, 3+ years to Marino and Elway)
Brady 160-47 (what can you say...Currently 3rd...probably needs 2 years after Manning retires to pass him, Favre could should fall to him in 3 years)
INTs
Brees (194, 29th all time)
Brady (143 61st all time)
Sacked
Brees (300, 40th all time)
Brady (364, 17th all time)
(SO one throws more INTs.....one takes more sacks. INTs are worse....but interesting how similar they are)
Attempts
Brees (4th, 7458)
Brady (6th 7168, Should pass Elway for 5th about 4 games in)
Comp %
Brees 66.2
Brady 63.5
Despite the INTs....
Notables
Brees (2x AP Off Player of the year, 1x Player of year in 2009, 9x Pro Bowler, 1x 1st tm All pro, 1 time SB champ)
Brady (2x AP Off Player of the year, 1x Player of year in 2007, 10x Pro Bowler, 2x 1st tn All pro, 4 time SB champ, 2x League MVP)
Hard to bag on Brees too much considering Manning and Brady have taken most of this hardware.
Guess I was a tad surprised at how comparable they are. Should Brees be in the "Top 5" of all times conversation with room to grow? (counting stats wise....probably not another SB in the cards).
He has checked the SB block (same number of wins as Manning (and his was head to head) and Favre) and is going to pass Marino in pretty much all the counting stats this year.
Seems a shame that he is the "other guy" in conversations about 2000's Qbs.