In-season NBA news thread
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Combine it with all these AIs that everyone suddenly has and you can see all sorts of use cases, bad and good.
However this is cool. @reggiecleveland is going to be dunking all over fools for years to come!
Yeah, I remember my uncle getting one of those Johnny Most fake play by play calls in the 1980s and I was floored.
This is much cooler.
You'd think a guy who who calls his personal brand "the boardroom" would know that trending topics don't "rake the money in". Cable Television deals do. The upcoming implosion of cable TV, and Wall Street finally admitting streaming is a money pit, means the NBA (and all non-NFL sports) have one giant broadcast contract left to get before the league is broadcast live from the personal courts of the Saudi Royal family.
The Lebron/Durant generation jumping around was not good for the game. Star players staying in a market and getting young fans to watch the local teams on TV would be good for the game.
How do you reconcile that with team values exploding? My bum ass clippers went for 2 bill, the pedestrian suns went for 4.
Hard to say, for sure. I'm a cranky old man, and therefore I root for laundry a lot. Kids these days, I'm not as sure they care which jersey the stars are wearing. No sport moves mega players like the NBA does, I think. MLB comes close, a bit, with free agency - but with players signing 10+ year contracts, that certainly going to put a damper on player movement (and not sure any young people like baseball anyway
LeBron jumping teams I don't think wad that harmful to the NBA, he got every team he was on into the finals and won a ring, except for his first stint with the Cavs.
Durant forcing the Nets hand with Kyrie and then Harden, never winning anything with them and spending the last year or so pouting and wanting a trade before getting it is more damaging.
Stars leaving their original markets is a problem, especially if guys demand out quickly. However, there are plenty of top stars (Curry, Giannis, Jokic, Tatum, Embiid, Dame) that are all with their original teams and don't look like they are headed anywhere else soon.
Durant forcing the Nets hand with Kyrie and then Harden, never winning anything with them and spending the last year or so pouting and wanting a trade before getting it is more damaging.
Stars leaving their original markets is a problem, especially if guys demand out quickly. However, there are plenty of top stars (Curry, Giannis, Jokic, Tatum, Embiid, Dame) that are all with their original teams and don't look like they are headed anywhere else soon.
The team values are still riding the wave of the 'live sports rights' boom of last decade. That's coming to end soon. The next NBA contract will be massive, but Iger and Zaslav are already taking about reigning it in after that.
The cable TV bundle going extinct is one of the reasons Silver pushed the icky sovereign wealth fund change through.
That wouldn't really matter if they watched the games on TV but young people are disinterested in watching sports games.
https://morningconsult.com/2022/12/13/gen-z-interest-in-watching-sports/
I keep looking at those numbers and saying to myself “Those are too low.” I mean half the population is female and those numbers assume they are capturing all of the males and close to half the women. Which I think is absurd. I think that the percentage of the population totally disinterested in professional sports is much higher. But then, I am from the Pacific NW.
https://theathletic.com/4219468/2023/02/17/bally-sports-rsn-nba-nhl-mlb-broadcasts/?source=weeklyemail&campaign=602288
Nice recap on Bally's potential bankruptcy, RSNs, Diamond Sports Group, Sinclair, etc
Nice recap on Bally's potential bankruptcy, RSNs, Diamond Sports Group, Sinclair, etc
The supermax worked incredibly well for the purpose it was intended. Is AD the only guy to turn it down so far? I think the Spurs declined to offer it to Kawhi.
Those need to be viewed in context of age, life stage and income. Comparing people in their 30s and 40s with money and time to those in their 20s without.
If they asked the same questions in a similar survey 10, 15, 20 years ago, then we'd be able to compare age cohort then to same age cohort now. As it is, the noise swamps the signal.
If they asked the same questions in a similar survey 10, 15, 20 years ago, then we'd be able to compare age cohort then to same age cohort now. As it is, the noise swamps the signal.
The supermax is a lot of money. I can’t imagine someone turning down that kind of money, especially since he could just force his way out of town a year or two later, like KD just did.
LaMelo Ball might be a player who rejects a max offer coming off his rookie contract, to get back to his hometown.
They’re not doing a scientific study. I take Pitaro’s words (my guess is he isn’t saying that offhanded based on a hunch…ESPN probably has a ton of demographic / consumption data) with the survey data as two data points indicating there is something there that merits further consideration.
This is just too risky for LaMelo, or any other guy on a rookie deal, to do.
Assuming he's offered a max extension this summer, he'd be locking in 5 years at more than 200M.
If he wanted to turn it down to get to UFA, he's already signed for next season at 10.9M then he'd have to play the following season at his qualifying offer of 14.3M before getting to UFA.
Leaving two full seasons for something to go wrong is just too big a gamble.
If offered, just take the money and demand a trade later. Or alternatively, demand a trade this summer.
Never turn down the money coming off a rookie deal.
Yep, its been established by numerous superstars, sign the MAX then demand a trade later. It's not even a question anymore
There were rumors Zion was going to turn it down, but that was never realistic with that body. Too much risk.
Ok so reign it in after the next massive contract...4 or 5 years from after next year? That's still a long time.
By then the Saudis will run the league. The curve isn’t flattening anytime soon imho.
Scarcity and ego-driven billionaires running out of shiny toys to buy accounts for some of it.
April 5th, Clippers-Lakers. Maybe Russ can help shovel dirt on the Lakers’ play-in push.
My prediction is that Ty Lue won't let Westbrook shovel dirt on anyone's playoff push including the Clippers. It will be interesting to see what sort of role he gets.
Lue doesn't deserve this. It's OK to tell PG no sometimes. Where is he going to go?
Paging ElUno… ?
My initial sense is it makes one of the 5-7 scary teams in the West (Denver, Phoenix, GS, Memphis, LAC, maybe Dallas and the Lakers) just a bit less scary.
My initial sense is it makes one of the 5-7 scary teams in the West (Denver, Phoenix, GS, Memphis, LAC, maybe Dallas and the Lakers) just a bit less scary.
Love confirmed he's signing with the Heat: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/heat-sign-kevin-love-veteran-forward-lands-in-miami-after-getting-buyout-from-cavaliers/
Russ trying to prove he still has it enough to win the game by himself sounds like a bad idea
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We'll see how Russ goes, in theory... sure they need a playmaker in the 2nd unit, they could use the rebounding too.
In practice, the problem with Russ is he thinks he's a star still and that he can/should keep taking 3s.
In practice, the problem with Russ is he thinks he's a star still and that he can/should keep taking 3s.
I still think Russ could help a certain type of team, I actually think on Utah, his energy and ability to go in transition would mesh well with their lineups with a lot of young athletes and shooting; a small-ball unit with Markkanen at the 5 and Westbrook would be interesting.
Clippers though don't need that exactly. I don't get why they worked to jettison Reggie Jackson and John Wall to then just add Russ.
Clippers though don't need that exactly. I don't get why they worked to jettison Reggie Jackson and John Wall to then just add Russ.
Paul George too I think. Kawhi let it be known he was leaving even if SA offered it.
George missed All-NBA before the last year of his contract, so Indy traded him rather than deal with uncertainty in the contract year, given that they weren't that good. It would be like Jaylen missing it this year, except on a much worse team.
I think he's a pretty decent fit for the Clippers. Lots of outside shooters, no real inside threats. And for all of his faults, Russ can still drive and dish with the best of them. Not sure what happened w/ Jackson/Wall, but Russ fits much better with the Clippers than the Lakers. If the latest trade and then buy-out has deflated his ego such that he stops with his hero ball, he could be an effective 12-15 minute guy off the bench. That said, if I were a Clipper fan, I wouldn't hold my breath: the beauty/the horror of the Westbrook show is he only knows one speed -- that of a young puppy sprinting toward evening dinner.
I agree on Westbrook being a better fit than Jax/Wall. The former lost his starting job, sulked, and played horribly with zero passion once he was demoted. The latter was forced into being a microwave scorer off the bench as they had no shot creators on that unit aside from Powell who isn’t at his best creating for himself. Of course, this is Russ so what looks good on paper doesn’t usually translate to the court.
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This article makes it sound like George pushed for the trade even knowing it would cost him a chance at the supermax.
I also saw and interview (All the Smoke I think) where George said he wanted out of Indy because AD wanted to come there but the front office said they couldn't afford it.
It's probably not a distinction worth discussing though, especially because I answered a slightly different question than you originally asked (George didn't pass on the supermax, he may have passed on the opportunity for a potential supermax). The point is that the supermax generally does what it was intended, with few exceptions.
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Barton might get more minutes elsewhere but a better shot at a ring in Boston depending on who else comes calling. This feels like a if-it-all-lines-up scenario where Barton doesn't get a ton of interest from top contenders and the minutes left are for play-in types. And Maybe Barton opts for that though he has to have one eye on the clock at his age.
From the Cs perspective its a nice to have acquisition but Barton isn't likely to be a difference maker in pursuit of the next championship
From the Cs perspective its a nice to have acquisition but Barton isn't likely to be a difference maker in pursuit of the next championship
Hampton quickly signed with Detroit. Good no risk signing by the Pistons on a kid just turning 22 who was one of top players his age only 4 years ago.
Ime not on the hawks list according to Shams.
View: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1628164973993279489
Sources: The Hawks' head coaching candidates are expected to include Bucks assistant Charles Lee, Kings assistant Jordi Fernandez, Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson, Spurs assistant Mitch Johnson, G League South Bay's Miles Simon and former Jazz coach Quin Snyder.
View: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1628164973993279489
Sources: The Hawks' head coaching candidates are expected to include Bucks assistant Charles Lee, Kings assistant Jordi Fernandez, Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson, Spurs assistant Mitch Johnson, G League South Bay's Miles Simon and former Jazz coach Quin Snyder.
I have a feeling that the league quietly let everyone know that Ime doesn’t get hired until next season.
We still don't know the full story. Udoka may be totally employable or maybe he works for the players while front offices/ownership isn't biting.
Unlike players, it feels like coaches with some hair have a much tougher road for comebacks.
Also, Udoka probably needs to go to a pretty established situation given the risks around hiring him. Atlanta isn't that so its probably not a fit in any way.
https://theathletic.com/4234082/2023/02/21/nba-player-poll-midseason-tournament-trash-talk/
Midseason player poll on a number of topics (biggest trash talker, games played requirements for league mvp, among others), but I thought the most interesting was besides yourself, who do you most want to win a ring? A few predictable guys led the way (CP3, Lillard, Westbrook), a couple of fun randoms (Aaron holiday, Bruno Fernando), but Tatum gets the prize here:
Midseason player poll on a number of topics (biggest trash talker, games played requirements for league mvp, among others), but I thought the most interesting was besides yourself, who do you most want to win a ring? A few predictable guys led the way (CP3, Lillard, Westbrook), a couple of fun randoms (Aaron holiday, Bruno Fernando), but Tatum gets the prize here:
Can’t imagine Snyder goes for the Hawks job. Think he’s fine waiting out Pop to retire.
The Hawks have to be one of the least desirable gigs in pro sports.
Pour some out for the 2020 draft. The top 4 guys are solid, but then it's a couple of ceiling guys and then meh.
Kid has been aggressively bad and the analytics mostly hate him obviously. That said, Orlando is not a place to grow up basketball-wise. And is is crazy young.
BPM likes him more this year and sees him trending up hard.
This is within the ESPN story on McMillan.
A "berth in the conference semifinals" comes after winning a single playoff series.
Seems like some water carrying for Snyder. "Despite 6 straight playoff appearances, Snyder's teams never won more than one playoff series" is a better description of what actually happened.
Yeah he’s been awful in his 19, 20 and 21-yr old years which lowers his ceiling but the kid still has the physicals and possesses NBA-ball skills…..plus time is on his side to still find a niche in this league. He still needs to get stronger so I do wonder how hard he works. I mean it took Gerald Green 10 years to find his way to a meaningful role and career so I wouldn’t write him off just yet.