Kayshon Boutte arrested for illegal sports gambling

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At least he went into this scam with both feet.
 

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Great--another roster hole--how are we supposed to replace those 2 catches with all of the team's other needs?
 

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I could care less about the under 21 part, but his placing bets on LSU games in which he was playing was the same thing that got Pete Rose into trouble (and deservedly so). Hard to think of something more dumb.
 

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I could care less about the under 21 part, but his placing bets on LSU games in which he was playing was the same thing that got Pete Rose into trouble (and deservedly so). Hard to think of something more dumb.
He could have bet on the Patriots to win in 2023.
 

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If he has a sufficient edge to generate $500K in profits.... He might have a more lucrative career as a pro gambler than football player
 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/patriots-wr-kayshon-boutte-arrested-for-taking-part-in-illegal-sports-betting-while-at-lsu/ar-BB1hgjgj

"He is alleged to have placed more than 8,900 wagers using his alias from April 6, 2022 thorugh May 7, 2023. Per the release, he was alleged to have placed at least 17 wagers on NCAA football games, including six of which were placed on LSU football."
This is the crazy part; nearly 9,000 bets over a year including his own team. My man got himself a problem.
 

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Is this an NFL matter? I wonder what the charge would be.

Betting on sports but not through an official NFL partner?
 

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What was the spread week 1? That was some suspiciously bad footwork.
I heard today that it was PHI -3

I know your tongue was probably firmly in your cheek but, based on his sloppiness with covering this up, I doubt he’d be savvy enough to throw the game by catching the ball but not getting both feet down. With his displayed IQ, he probably would have just placed it in the CBs hands
 

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At least he had faith in himself
That particular game was LSU versus Florida State on September 4, 2022 where Boutte allegedly placed one bet that he would personally score at least one touchdown in the game and another bet that he would have over 82.5 receiving yards.
Unfortunately looks like he had 2 catches for 20 yds and no TDs.


If he has a sufficient edge to generate $500K in profits.... He might have a more lucrative career as a pro gambler than football player
Unclear how much was profit. Deposited 132K; withdrew 50K. Doesn't appear to say how much money if any was still in the account
According to the warrant, during 2022 and 2023:
  • Boutte deposited a total of $132,147.53 into the account
  • Boutte won a total of $556,267.58, but used most of that money to make additional bets
  • Boutte withdrew $50,282.36 from the account
If he has a sufficient edge to generate $500K in profits.... He might have a more lucrative career as a pro gambler than football player
 

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If he has a sufficient edge to generate $500K in profits.... He might have a more lucrative career as a pro gambler than football player
Winning 500k isn't the same as 500k profit. If you bet $100 one day and $100 the next day both at even money and you go 1/2 you "won" $200, but profited nothing.
 

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Committing a felony?
I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
 

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Great post! Sports leagues getting in bed with online gambling isn't going to end well. Boutte's problem isn't the first and certainly won't be the last. I predict a Black Sox level scandal in the not-so-distant future.
 

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Kayshon Boutte allegedly didn’t do much to hide his illegal gambling. While placing more than 8,900 bets while underage (including some on his LSU football team) he used accounts with the username “kayshonboutte7” and “kayshonboutte01” according to the affidavit.
Well how could he know that people would figure it out?
 

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The only thing that matters is whether he threw games at LSU. Everything else is silly nonsense.

My high school age son has dozens of friends who are gambling via betting apps.
 

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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
Great post. The moral panic about gambling is pretty farcical at this point. The real ouroboros of it all is all these rules about who can gamble and when are set up to protect the gamblers and casinos.
 

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Great post. The moral panic about gambling is pretty farcical at this point. The real ouroboros of it all is all these rules about who can gamble and when are set up to protect the gamblers and casinos.
My favorite is the “Hey, place a bet on team X, hottest bet in NJ!





…gambling problem?, call 1-800-WHATEVER”
 

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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
Sure, but you asked what the NFL would punish him for.

Though also... the illegal gambling gets the headline, but it isn't the felony it's a misdemeanor. The felony is the credit card/computer fraud of creating a fake person and using another person's credit card.
 

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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
Thank you!
 

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If he isn't furiously negotiating a plea deal, he's insane.
Unless he’s somehow implicated in throwing games, I’m not sure he has any leverage to cut a deal.

Of course, if he’s not suspected of throwing games, the “crime” here is one of stupidity, not maliciousness. So he probably won’t (or at least shouldn’t) receive anything more than a slap on the wrist.
 

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Kayshon Boutte allegedly didn’t do much to hide his illegal gambling. While placing more than 8,900 bets while underage (including some on his LSU football team) he used accounts with the username “kayshonboutte7” and “kayshonboutte01” according to the affidavit.
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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
Great post and as someone that enjoys gambling but only with money I can afford to lose, what is really infuriating is every single draftkings or FD promo before any sporting event is a fucking Parlay. Hitting straight parlays are insanely hard and going to lead to a lot more losses than standard gambling. They have even made it a lot harder to place teaser bets on apps now which is what 99% of people trying to hit big with parlays should be doing.

There really should be restrictions on what they can advertise during sporting events and it should never include +300 odds.
 

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Unless he’s somehow implicated in throwing games, I’m not sure he has any leverage to cut a deal.

Of course, if he’s not suspected of throwing games, the “crime” here is one of stupidity, not maliciousness. So he probably won’t (or at least shouldn’t) receive anything more than a slap on the wrist.
Saving the prosecution the trouble of prosecuting is worth a little something I'm sure. Hopefully he didn't cross too many lines.
 

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I just want to know when this country decided that cutting off your arms is an acceptable punishment for gambling
 

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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
Great post! Sports leagues getting in bed with online gambling isn't going to end well. Boutte's problem isn't the first and certainly won't be the last. I predict a Black Sox level scandal in the not-so-distant future.
Great post. The moral panic about gambling is pretty farcical at this point. The real ouroboros of it all is all these rules about who can gamble and when are set up to protect the gamblers and casinos.
My favorite is the “Hey, place a bet on team X, hottest bet in NJ!





…gambling problem?, call 1-800-WHATEVER”
It's gross. Gambling addiction is real...unless you're in a spot to affect people making money, in which case you should go to jail.
 

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I don't even understand what the fuck we're doing as a country.

It's a felony to be 20 and bet on sports, because the law requires you to be 21. One would think the law is designed to protect the 20 year old, not punish him. You're 18, so you're an adult, so we can treat you like one in the criminal justice system. But, you're not 21 so you can't gamble. Why? Because even though you're an adult, your brain is still mush and we the sportsbooks have to pretend we give a shit, even though we'd love your money, because it's the only way we can get the state legislatures to approve this regressive evil bullshit. But, you know, if you use your mother's account to do something you're too young to do, even though an adult, we're going to throw you in the pokey. Also, if there's a war you have fight in it. Sorry.

And the crime? Well, the crime is gambling on sports. Which is very bad. So bad that the league you're now in makes billions off it. But, before you were in the league, you shouldn't have bet. You can bet now, of course, just only on sports other than NFL and not in the parking lot. Never in the fucking parking lot! Because that would be awful. Because gambling is bad. Except not so bad that we won't take everyone's money.

And, yes, now that you did this in college, but not the NFL, we're going to take away your livelihood so that when you do lose, it will fuck you up bad. Though problem gambling is very bad. If you have any doubt about that, the fine print on the app should have a
phone number. The fact that less than 2 percent of sports better withdraw more than they deposited is not relevant. They all can afford it. You can't. Now.

I'm not going to defend betting on his own games. It's not good and if he had been caught doing it while in college, he should have been punished. I say that even though you know he's hardly the only one, and at this point maintaining some kind of illusion that this is anything but theater about the existential risk that gambling poses to "integrity of the game" is getting hard to take seriously. But, still, I can get behind the idea -- if you're dumb enough to bet on your own team or against your own team, you shouldn't be surprised if you get consequences.

The rest of it? It is dripping wet with hypocrisy.
I only read your first two sentences and I’m sure you got some pushback in the replies but thank you. What are we doing here? This is nuts that we advertise to young easily influenced adults so we can what.. bust them. I had to take my 11 year old and show him the report and tell him you will go to jail if you bet under 21.

edit: I see you got no pushback. Good to see and preserves my faith in SoSH and humanity.
 
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Great post. The moral panic about gambling is pretty farcical at this point. The real ouroboros of it all is all these rules about who can gamble and when are set up to protect the gamblers and casinos.
Moral panic is a strong cultural hallmark of America and has been lit on fire in this digital age. It is how we test boundaries of newly implemented rules, norms, or laws. Those who get caught early running afoul of new parameters often pay the steepest price. I hope Boutte is able to get off with next to nothing and have another go at the nfl.
 

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Sure, but you asked what the NFL would punish him for.

Though also... the illegal gambling gets the headline, but it isn't the felony it's a misdemeanor. The felony is the credit card/computer fraud of creating a fake person and using another person's credit card.
Yeah this is true. When I started to relay the story to my kid he said pretty quickly “fraud.” I’m assuming too that he didn’t have his mom’s permission to use her card for gambling.